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Please leave a thread for current and related new links. Currently the discussion is scattered between 56 threads here on THR alone.

Please post valid and related links to the case. Please try not to repost links listed in the thread.
There are 56 discussion threads open. http://thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=3145365

http://www.dcguncase.com/blog/ is the RKBA case lawyers status, history, rollup of what is going on in this case currently.

Supreme court docket website. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/docket.html
Where you can search for docket 07-290. This will find the petition and the cross petition.

Looking for the anti citys/states brief in support of DC.
Ha I posted it in another thread.
http://www.donath.org/Heller_NY_amicus_brief_cert_stage.pdf

Recent interview of Levy on NPR not listed as of this posting @ dcguncase.
http://www.here-now.org/shows/2007/11/20071113_9.asp

I requested Art to sticky one thread of links and updates. Please keep it kleen.

Added links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_v._District_of_Columbia

For general reading on scotus issues. Some opinion pieces are posted here of some interest.
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/
 
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thank you for organizing what should be a sticky

Good work.
I am disappointed by todays news, imo they are going for a very narrow decision.
I pray that it is the opposite, and will be very angry if they screw us yet again.
 
I struck gold I tellya. DC blog posted by ex prosecutor

http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/10/gun_control_and_1.html

First comment and authors response included as very relevant.

October 25, 2007
Gun control and the District of Columbia
posted by Jennifer Collins

The Supreme Court should be deciding in the next couple of weeks whether to grant cert in the case challenging the District of Columbia's law in essence banning residents from possessing handguns. (Michael O'Shea has done an admirable job over at Prawfs collecting various materials related to the cert petition). As a former assistant U.S. attorney in D.C., I've been following the case with interest, and I do expect that the Court will grant cert. I think it's worth acknowledging the primary functions of the law as it's used by prosecutors in DC: the gun ban is both a preventive detention statute and an intelligence-gathering tool. At one time when I was a prosecutor, we were prohibited from extending a plea offer in gun cases unless the defendant agreed to come into the office (with his attorney, of course) and be "debriefed" about his knowledge of criminal activity in the city. The statute was also a mechanism for locking up individuals perceived as violent, but against whom other cases could not be brought for whatever reason. It's pretty simple to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an individual was in possession of a gun without a license and a lot tougher to prove that he committed a violent crime. These functions may not be relevant to the question whether the statute is constitutional, but it's worth acknowledging that invalidating the gun ban will surely have a tremendous impact on crime-fighting in the District.

Posted by Jennifer Collins at October 25, 2007 12:17 PM
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"The statute was also a mechanism for locking up individuals perceived as violent, but against whom other cases could not be brought for whatever reason."

This is an interesting statement coming from a former prosecutor. Frankly, I think the effect of removing the gun ban is positive if it eliminates a "mechanism" with which the government can "lock up" citizens who have not committed a crime (aside from the gun possession at issue) beyond a reasonable doubt. Many of the civil liberty issues arising in the context of national security are a result of the federal government violating the rights of those it “perceives” as terrorists. Until reasonable doubt is replaced by “perception” in our justice system, I think prosecutors should rely on more "laws" and fewer "mechanisms."

Posted by: anon at October 25, 2007 02:40 PM

I was not offering an opinion on the advisability of these practices, but simply noting that they exist and will obviously be affected by the outcome of this litigation. Indeed, I think the length of the potential jail sentence that is attached to gun possession in D.C. is quite troubling. I will note that the office was indeed relying on a law that was valid at the time, however, even if one disagrees with the existence of that law as a policy or legal matter.

Posted by: Jennifer at October 25, 2007 03:37 PM
 
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From Lyle Denniston at SCOTUSBlog (hosted by Akin & Gump, the firm that represents D.C. in Heller):

The Supreme Court will consider at its private Conference on Nov. 20 whether it will hear one or both of two appeals in a case involving the constitutionality of the District of Columbia’s flat ban on private ownership and use of handguns. The Court’s electronic docket on Thursday indicated that the Justices will be examining District of Columbia v. Heller (07-290) and a conditional cross-petition, Parker v. District of Columbia (07-335) at that time The two cases were up for consideration at the Nov. 9 Conference, but the Justices took no action then.

Any order in the cases could emerge on the day of the Nov. 20 Conference, or the following Monday, Nov. 26.

It looks like counsel for both sides will be present at the conference as well. From what I understand this is fairly unusual, so could be an interesting Tuesday.
 
counsel at conference?

Uh, can anyone say what it means when both counsels are present at the SCOTUS conference on a case?:confused:

I don't know how often this happens, does anyone have a record of a prior instance of this business?

I'm at a loss, isn't the whole briefing process about clearing/setting the stage for 'oral' arguments in a 'public setting' *after* the SCOTUS decides on cert? Or am I missing something here?

why is this business being done *in camera* (in private/closed) not in public?

help.

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business here doesn't mean monkey business, *yet* I'm still Opti the Mystic here but verry confused about the opposing counsels getting called in to the conference.
 
Not sure why both counsel would be present; but it may have to do with the sides offering different questions. The Court may want to resolve those into a single question before they decide on cert.
 
This is the best article I've seen so far.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/us/21scotus.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Justices Will Decide if Handgun Kept at Home Is Individual Right

By LINDA GREENHOUSE
Published: November 21, 2007

WASHINGTON, Nov. 20 — The Supreme Court announced Tuesday that it would decide whether the Constitution grants individuals the right to keep guns in their homes for private use, plunging the justices headlong into a divisive and long-running debate over how to interpret the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the “right of the people to keep and bear arms.”

The court accepted a case on the District of Columbia’s 31-year-old prohibition on the ownership of handguns. In adding the case to its calendar, for argument in March with a decision most likely in June, the court not only raised the temperature of its current term but also inevitably injected the issue of gun control into the presidential campaign.

The federal appeals court here, breaking with the great majority of federal courts to have examined the issue over the decades, ruled last March that the Second Amendment right was an individual one, not tied to service in a militia, and that the District of Columbia’s categorical ban on handguns was therefore unconstitutional.

Both the District of Columbia government and the winning plaintiff, Dick Anthony Heller, a security officer, urged the justices to review the decision. Mr. Heller, who carries a gun while on duty guarding the federal building that houses the administrative offices of the federal court system, wants to be able to keep his gun at home for self-defense.

Mr. Heller was one of six plaintiffs recruited by a wealthy libertarian lawyer, Robert A. Levy, who created and financed the lawsuit for the purpose of getting a Second Amendment case before the Supreme Court. The appeals court threw out the other five plaintiffs for lack of standing; only Mr. Heller had actually applied for permission to keep a gun at home and been rejected.

The Supreme Court last looked at the Second Amendment nearly 70 years ago in United States v. Miller, a 1939 decision that suggested, without explicitly deciding, that the right should be understood in connection with service in a militia. The amendment states, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

The justices chose their own wording for what they want to decide in the new case, District of Columbia v. Heller, No. 07-290. The question they posed is whether the provisions of the statute “violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes.”

The court’s choice of words is almost never inadvertent, and its use of the phrase “state-regulated militia” was somewhat curious. The District of Columbia, of course, is not a state, and one of the arguments its lawyers are making in their appeal is that the Second Amendment simply does not apply to “legislation enacted exclusively for the District of Columbia.”

For that matter, the Supreme Court has never ruled that the Second Amendment even applies to the states, as opposed to the federal government. It has applied nearly all the other provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states, leaving the Second Amendment as the most prominent exception. The justices evidently decided that this case was not the proper vehicle for exploring that issue, because as a nonstate, the District of Columbia is not in a position to argue it one way or another.

Because none of the justices now on the court have ever confronted a Second Amendment case, any prediction about how the court will rule is little more than pure speculation.


Of the hundreds of gun regulations on the books in states and localities around the country, the district’s ordinance is generally regarded as the strictest. Chicago comes the closest to it, banning the possession of handguns acquired since 1983 and requiring re-registration of older guns every two years. New York City permits handgun ownership with a permit issued by the Police Department.

The District of Columbia ordinance not only bans ownership of handguns, but also requires other guns that may be legally kept in the home, rifles and shotguns, to be disassembled or kept under a trigger lock. The capital’s newly empowered City Council enacted the ordinance in 1976 as one of its first measures after receiving home-rule authority from Congress.

The court’s order on Tuesday indicated that it would review the handgun ban in light of the provision that permits, with restrictions, the other guns. The opposing sides in the lawsuit presented very different views of how the various provisions interact.

To the plaintiffs, the restrictions on the conditions under which rifles and shotguns may be kept means that homeowners are denied the right to possess “functional” weapons for self-defense. To the District of Columbia, the fact that these other guns are permitted shows that the ordinance is nuanced and sensitive to gun owners’ needs. It takes about one minute to disengage a trigger lock.

In any event, a Supreme Court decision that finds the district’s ordinance unconstitutional would not necessarily invalidate other, more modest restrictions, like those that permit handgun ownership for those who pass a background check and obtain a license. Since the only claim in the case is that law-abiding people have the right to keep a gun at home, the court will not have occasion to address restrictions on carrying guns.

In fact, lawyers on both sides of the case agreed Tuesday that a victory for the plaintiff in this case would amount to the opening chapter in an examination of the constitutionality of gun control rather than anything close to the final word.

“This is just the beginning,” said Alan Gura, the lead counsel for the plaintiff.

Mr. Gura said in an interview that “gun laws that make sense,” like those requiring background checks, would survive the legal attack, which he said was limited to “laws that do no good other than disarm law-abiding citizens.”

Whether the handgun ban has reduced crime in a city surrounded by less restrictive jurisdictions is a matter of heated dispute. Crime in the District of Columbia has mirrored trends in the rest of the country, dropping quite sharply during the 1990s but now experiencing some increase.

In striking down the district’s ordinance, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said that an individual-right interpretation of the Second Amendment would still permit “reasonable regulations,” but that a flat ban was not reasonable.

Dennis A. Henigan, a lawyer at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which advocates strict gun control, said that if the justices agree with the appeals court, an important question for future cases will be “what legal standard the court will eventually adopt for evaluating other gun regulations.”
 
Want a front row seat for the oral arguments for Heller in March?

Check out http://www.oyez.com/

MP3s of Supreme Court oral arguments, transcripts, briefs, etc. Goes back several years as well if you would like to research past cases.
 
No link, just got the announcement:

Nixon to Join Attorneys General on U.S. Supreme Court Brief in Support of Second Amendment Rights

Missouri Attorney General Jay Nixon announced today that he will work with attorneys general from other states to file a brief with the United States Supreme Court in support of an individual’s right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The Supreme Court recently agreed to hear a challenge to Washington, D.C.’s gun control laws. Those laws essentially ban private handgun ownership and require that rifles and shotguns kept in private homes be unloaded and broken down or fitted with a trigger lock. When the Supreme Court takes a case, it allows interested parties not directly involved to file amicus curiae, or “friend of the court,” briefs.

“This case represents the first time in nearly 70 years that the Court will directly examine the Second Amendment,” Nixon said. “We have an opportunity here to get a court decision solidifying what most Americans already believe: that the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to keep and bear arms.”

Nixon noted that not all rights are absolute, and that he supports Missouri’s laws, including those that prevent criminals from obtaining handguns and enhance criminal penalties for crimes committed using deadly weapons.

Nixon will be working with his colleagues in other states to present the Court with historical and legal analysis supporting the position that the Second Amendment is an individual right.

“I believe our Founders intended the Second Amendment to extend to all law-abiding citizens, and I am pleased that the Supreme Court has agreed to resolve this debate,” Nixon said.

The case before the Supreme Court is District of Columbia v. Heller, Case No. 07-290. The Court is expected to hear oral arguments in the spring and issue a decision before June 30, 2008.

In 2004, Nixon successfully defended Missouri’s concealed carry law before the Missouri Supreme Court, establishing the Missouri General Assembly’s power to permit concealed weapons in Missouri.
 
Recognizing that one side is supposed to talk, submit briefs, before the other can anyone give this nonlegal person some dates for when we might see the various briefs that will be submitted?

I would really like to read them before the oral arguements.
 
I was off by a few days. Here is the (corrected) time table:

D.C. has 45 days to file its brief - Friday, January 4th (Rule 25.1). Respondents will have 30 days to file their brief - Monday, February 4th (Rule 25.2). Reply Brief will be due 30 days after that - Wednesday, March 5th (Rule 25.3).

Applications to extend time to file may be filed up to 10 days before the filing deadline (Rule 30.2).

Amici briefs may be filed within 7 days after the brief for the party supported is filed (Rule 37.3(a)).

Oral arguments will be scheduled by the Court Clerk, not less than 2 weeks after the last date of filling (Rule 27.1).
 
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Virginia Attorney General Files Friend-of-the Court On Our Side

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=7515111

Should Americans be allowed to have guns? Virginia's Attorney General says they should.

Bob McDonnell is supporting a federal court decision that banning guns is unconstitutional. The case originated in Washington, DC where handguns have been banned for decades.

Now it is up to the U.S. Supreme Court to decide. The court's ruling will have national implications.

McDonnel says if justices base their ruling on the intentions of the authors of the Constitution, they'll conclude that owning a gun is an individual right.

McDonnell says "Because at the time of its writing everybody was a member of a militia and today everybody potentially could be called up in some capacity to help defend their property, their person or their nation."

Virginia is the third state to sign on to the friend-of-the-court brief.

The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in March and should make a decision by June. The case marks the first time the court has reviewed the original intent of the Second Amendment in 70 years.
 
DC to file 15K word brief by friday

(streaming news story)
http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=200161

The DC appeal team has been shaken up by the new DC "AG," a guy who PO'd the last AG (who quit) by overstepping his authority as the Mayor's Counsel and trying to run the city.

Here is an updated writeup on the change (ETA:updated 2:43pm):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/02/AR2008010201116_pf.html
D.C. Lawyer Preparing to Defend City's Gun Ban Fired

By David Nakamura
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 2, 2008; 2:43 PM

Acting D.C. Attorney General Peter Nickles has fired the city lawyer who had been preparing to defend the longtime District ban on handguns in the high-stakes Supreme Court case this spring.

Alan B. Morrison, who has argued roughly 20 cases before the high court, was asked to leave his post as special counsel by the end of this week, Morrison said today. Morrison had been hired by former Attorney General Linda Singer, who resigned two weeks ago, and put in charge of arguing the handgun case.

The city has appealed to the Supreme Court to maintain the handgun ban after a lower court overturned the ban in the spring. The high court agreed to hear the case, probably in March, which would mark the first time the Supreme Court has examined a Second Amendment case in nearly 70 years.

Singer cited frustration that Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) had relied more heavily on Nickles, who had been his general counsel, to make key legal decisions. Upon Singer's resignation, Fenty replaced her with Nickles, a former high-powered corporate litigator at Covington & Burling and friend of Fenty's family.

Nickles met with Morrison on Dec. 21, but did not tell him that he would be fired, Morrison said. Last week, Nickles asked Deputy Attorney General Eugene A. Adams to inform Morrison of his decision.

"I've been asked to tell you that Peter has decided that he will not be relying on you to make the . . . argument before the Supreme Court," Adams wrote in an e-mail to Morrison, which Morrison provided to The Washington Post. "It's a decision he's been wrestling with since you met with him last week. He thought it only fair that you be informed sooner rather than later."

Morrison had taken an active hand, along with a team of lawyers from the city and two private firms, in writing the 15,000-word brief that is scheduled to be filed with the high court on Friday. It is not clear whom Nickles will select to replace Morrison.

In a statement, Fenty declined to talk about specifics regarding Morrison's firing.

"Peter Nickles' expertise in litigation is going to greatly benefit residents of the District of Columbia in our handgun case pending before the Supreme Court," Fenty said. "It is important that he move quickly to build a team and a strategy to maximize our chances of winning this important case."

David Vladeck, a professor at Georgetown Law School, said Morrison's departure would be a major blow to the D.C. team that has been preparing the case.

"This is a case that requires an unusual amount of preparation because one of the issues comes back to, 'What did those folks who wrote the Bill of Rights really mean when they wrote the Second Amendment,' " said Vladeck, who is friends with Morrison and had been consulting on the case. "In addition to needing a good lawyer and appellate advocate, you need someone who has immersed himself in very complex historical sources. Alan has been doing that for two or three months by now. Whoever takes over this case will start many, many, many laps behind where we ought to be."
 
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Good work.
I am disappointed by todays news, imo they are going for a very narrow decision.
I pray that it is the opposite, and will be very angry if they screw us yet again.

Oh, it's potentially a win/win.

If they decide DC can't ban guns because of 2A, it's a win. It doesn't matter what limits DC puts in place. At that point, it's a "civil right" and it can be fought.

Currently, they could ban all guns in jurisdiction after jurisdiction.

A decision for 2A means worst case is something like Australia--bolt actions and revolvers. Sucky, but infinitely better than NO GUNS.

It gives us a starting point to argue against HATE GROUPS like Brady and their ATTEMPT TO LIMIT OUR CIVIL RIGHTS AS A PEOPLE!:D

If they decide that DC is exempt because it is not a state, I will move to DC the next day.










Because that would also mean INCOME TAX does not apply, and I would file a class action suit, retroactive forever, for all residents of the District:evil:
 
Levy brief is expected Feb 3. As per a response received in a DOJ thread.
DOJ submitted a brief backing the individual right. It also contradictorily backs DC in this case.
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=330547
Also listed are many new briefs for petitioner listed.

All the kings men and all the kings horses are sticking to the notion of how lovely are the kings new clothes.
 
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