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Help! Help! Please Help! AR Situation

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lesson learned. still got a few hundred left, but ill just shoot a few at a time in between some other ammo.
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Don't mix brass and steel case ammo in the same shooting session without cleaning the chamber.

Why? After shooting steel cased ammo, your chamber will be fouled because the steel cased ammo doesn't expand and seal the chamber as well as brass cases.

Shooting a brass cased round after shooting a bunch of steel cased rounds that has fouled the chamber results in the brass cased round expanding against the fouling in the chamber and getting stuck.

I know this didn't happen in your case but I would go ahead and clean till the chamber till it shines.
 
I would imagine that the .22lr shooting left some carbon build up. Just enough to not let the round seat properly in the chamber. Then when it was fired... a whole bunch more happened. I would check the bolt to make sure it is ok and clean the rifle, inspect all the parts and make sure everything functions properly. What was said about the bolt not wanting to move back means the extractor still was holding the round and then forcing it back may have given a future problem with the extractor. In all, just check it and make sure everything is good.
 
I just built a new AR, and took it to the range and it was a jam-o-matic. I'm new to ARs and I was wondering what the heck was going on. Then I was watching Guns & Ammo TV the last two weeks, and they were doing torture tests on some ARs. They said on both segments that the AR likes to run wet. The guy squirted 3-4 pumps of gunslick on the exposed bolt carrier and worked the action before shooting. I realized mine was bone dry. No wonder it didn't work.

It didn't help that I was shooting Wolf black box. ;)
 
It didn't hurt either. An AR will spit out Wolf all day if its built and maintained right.
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Maybe, maybe not. All mine is ~2 years old and presumably has the laquered, not polymer, coating.
 
This is gonna be better than the other forums for Ar's if people keep buying them, then starting new threads about whats wrong with them and why.... (I am one too...)
 
When I examine the extractor, what exactly am I looking for? Still very new to AR's
 
So far all the advice is good. If you can push out the rear pin and then remove the bolt. You should be able to remove the brass with Needle nose pliers. Blitz
 
Clean the chamber real good with a dedicated chamber brush.
Stag rifles are not known to be finicky about ammo unless they get real dirty and carbon fouled.
If you had not shot a bunch of ammo before the stoppage chances are there was some trace oil in the chamber and this can attract carbon like ants to honey.

I have been shooting a heck of a lot of Silver Bear .223 through a number of AR15 rifles and have yet to experience the dreaded stuck cartridge case.
 
Stag rifles are not known to be finicky about ammo unless they get real dirty and carbon fouled.
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In one of the recent editions of "Book of the AR-15" Patrick Sweeney took a Stag Model 2 to a week-long carbine class and used Wolf. According to him, the only mod to the carbine was a D-fender "o-ring", IIRC.

The only malfunctions he reported were when he would shoot a lot of ammo to get the gun hot and then left a fresh round in the hot chamber. This apparently melted the bullet sealant enough to glue the case in the chamber and would cause a failure to extract.

He didn't report any other problems.
 
I shot about 100 .22's with the ciener kit prior to that as well.
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This is your problem right there. Too many people are too willing to jump right on the ammo. The Ciener kit dumps all sorts of crap into your rifle. It is not a clean fit and gunks up your chamber. If you don't clean the chamber WELL before you shoot .223 ammo, you will get stuck casings. I'd get rid of the Ciener kit and just shoot .223. Or, if you are going to keep shooting 22LR, then get a dedicated upper for it. Or, if you are intent on keeping the Ciener kit, buy a dedicated AR-15 cleaning kit that has an AR 15 chamber brush, and clean the chamber really well right after you shoot with the Ciener kit.

Folks, there have been NUMEROUS tests with laquer coated ammo, and it has been PROVEN that the laquer DOES NOT melt. Notwithstanding, Wolf is now coating their ammo with polymer, that definitely won't melt. I guarantee that 9 times out of 10 when there is an ammo problem with Wolf, Barnaul, Brown Bear, it is a weapons maintenance issue (cleaning or lubrication), and not an ammo issue.
 
Oh I totally agree with you.
Of the umteen cartridge cases I have removed from AR15 chambers they were almost all Wolf, one was a Silver Bear, a couple more were Brown Bear and Barnaul.
In every single case the rifles displayed what I would call a casual cleaning regime.
When things started to rust these guys would, or might, spray some WD40 of the metal surfaces.

I have never had the opinion the laquer coating was the issue with Wolf.
The issue in my opinion was and is the overall dimensions of the cartridge cases which seem to run at maximum dimensions in Wolf produced .223
Bigger than average 5.56 dimension steel case crammed into chromed 5.56 and standard .223 commercial chambers that have been maintained by the Peanuts PigPen and you get a recipe for problems.
 
My friend who had a Ciener kit actually got a brass case stuck because he shot several hundred rounds of 22LR first. Luckily we tapped it out pretty easily with a cleaning rod. I'm not a fan of the Ciener kit.
 
Well at my next range session, hopefully Wednesday, I will continue to work my way through the rest of my silver bear, only this time I won't foul the chamber with the ciener beforehand. See if that makes a difference. I'll shoot the 223 first and then mess with the ciener afterwards and take it home and clean the **** out of it.
 
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I shoot a bushmaster AR.15 in 5.56/223 it will take any thing I put down it. If you get one chambered for 223 only then you will have problems always go for one with a 5.56 chamber you can shoot 223 but there is a deference that keeps the shell from sticking. But I agree in keeping every gun clean I have seen AK'S that would jam as fast as the AR'S do to neglect and ammo clean the parts you cant see not just the one can most just clean the bore and that's it maybe rub some cleaner or oil on the bolt and leave the chamber and extractors go if they are full of crud it may shoot but you will have a heck of a time getting the shell out or getting another one in.
 
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