Help recommend some handguns for the girlfriend...

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Tim Currie

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Ok, first gun for my girlfriend...
Please throw out some recommendations (I know that ultimately whatever fits best/she is comfortable with/ she likes/and she shoots best is important) but I just want to get an idea of what to start looking at.

Here are the guide lines:
She is small and petite, and so will probably want a gun that is smaller and petite. Gotta be reliable, gotta fit small hands, and preferably fairly economical. Open to either auto or revolver.

Please give me some guns to think about and try out.

Thanks.
 
Small hands...umm...ergonomic, easy to use....I'd rule out anything big with a bunch of controls...

Only question I really have is, is she mechanically inclined?

I don't have experiences with these things, but maybe a Walther P99, it's ergonomic, affordable and doesn't have a bunch of controls like the USP9C or big like the Beretta?

A lady I taught to shoot picked up an XD, I don't know how it's working out for her.
 
SIG 239 9mm She will love it. Can get a "short" trigger option to make it easier to reach the trigger. It is really a thinner trigger.

Walther P99 9mm

Glock 26 9mm

S&W M60 3" barrel Stay with .38 Specials until she feels up to more kick.

S&W M66 4" Again, stay with .38 Specials until she wants to try something more powerful.

Springfield Armory 1911 A1 Champion 4" .45auto. A little more expensive but she may like it.

Good luck,
Rich
 
Damn guys... a new Sig or Springfield is gonna break the bank. Need something cheaper yet still reliable. Doesnt have to be fancy.
 
Ok, how about...

Ruger MKII MK4 4" .22lr semi auto, accurate, rugged

Ruger SP101 4" .22lr DA small frame revolver

Browning Buckmark 5 1/2" .22lr semi auto


A little more pricy...

S&W 317 Kit Gun 3" .22lr DA revolver

S&W 617 4" .22lr 10 shot DA revolver

Rich
 
I bought my girlfriend a ruger 22/45 for her first gun and she loves it. She also liked the taurus 850 (.38 spl) i bought for my grandparents also. It seemed to fit her hand pretty good.
 
Everyone says it's best to start new shooters on a .22, and maybe it's true. But it isn't necessary; a person who's never fired a handgun before will get good with any normal handgun round with a bit of practice. .500S&W, or .454 Casull, might not be such great choices, but 9mm/.40/.45/.38/.357 are fine. There are light enough loadings in all of these rounds that a new shooter shouldn't have trouble, unless he/she is extremely recoil sensative (if you find the recoil of a downloaded .38 out of a 4" K-frame to be very unpleasant, I'm not sure how to help, really).

My first and second handguns were .45 Automatics. My third was a .45 Colt sixgun. So it's doable.

When I bought a revolver for a female friend of mine (she's built like a ballerina), I didn't get her a .22. It was to be her ONLY handgun, since we're both college students and money is tight (well, for her, I had plenty, heh). So I went looking for a used .357 revolver (since she already had a .357 magnum lever carbine), and I found her a Smith & Wesson Model 28. That's a 4" N-Frame revolver in .357 magnum.

With .38 plinking ammo, the gun is a pussycat. She doesn't think it's too heavy, either, and the thin factory grips fit her small hands perfectly. She didn't complain of tigger reach problems, though she had to teach her finger how to do the double action trigger pull.

I'd recommend, then, a .22 only if you plan on getting her a second serious gun later, or if she'll buy one herself. If it's going to be her only gun, and you want it to be more useful for self defense, I'd say a 4" K or L framed revolver (or a Ruger Security Six, a used example of which can be had for $200 or so), in either .38 or .357. Plenty of different grips available for those with smaller hands, and there are plenty of "cowboy action" .38 loads out there that are positively anemic, but perfect for just plinking and target shooting.

Best of all, though, a used revolver can usually be had for $200-$350.

As for automatics...I've heard that the Kahr T9, being a 4", single stack 9mm, has a very short trigger reach and is good for female or young shooters. It also has only one control, the slide release (being double action only), so it's simple to operate. It'll cost you a good deal more than a used revolver, though.
 
choices..

I'd suggest a look at either a Taurus 85 (.38 SPL) or Kel-Tec P-32.

I got my fiancee a Taurus 85 for her 21st b-day, and she likes it. For the record, she's 5'5", 95 lbs., and not blessed with a lot of upper body strength to handle the slides on most automatics.

Since her b-day is coming 'round again soon I'm thinking about getting her a P32. I just bought one for myself, and she really likes the feel of it. The slide was a bit tight out of the box, but a little use ought to loosen it up enoough for her.

Frank
 
I'd also suggest taking her on several trips to the range over a period of a few weeks and letting her hire various different handguns, starting out small and moving up the food chain until she is reasonably proficient with firearms.

By doing this, she can experience first hand what handguns fit her best, instead of trying to guess and ending up spending the money on something which isn't quite right for her.
 
Colt Police Positive in .38 spl. My wife is about the size you described, and she loves her Colt. The grips are almost teency, just right for a small woman. How men can shoot the thing is beyond me.
 
my 1st handgun was a j frame

My hubby bought it for me for a "car" gun---to have with me when I had to go through a seedy part of town to get to his warehouse. It was a Taurus model 85.

My next gun was a Ruger 22/45 to use to improve my skills.

For Christmas this year, I got a S&W model 60LS, which has become my "carry" gun (my SC CWP arrived mid-Jan). I like the trigger action on it better than the Taurus, and I can shoot +p's and .357's in it.

I also have a model 65LS that I really enjoy shooting. The heavier frame makes for less recoil, but it weighs 32 oz. unloaded (as opposed to 20 oz. on the model 60) so I don't carry it as often.
 
Take a look at the Berretta TomCat 32acp. The tip up
barrel for loading and unloading is nice feature. User
doesn't need strong hands to rack the slide, barrel up,
insert round, snap barrel in place. Easy to check for
empty chamber.
Small caliber yes, not everybody can pack a 45. The best
gun is the one you have when it's needed, not the big one
left at home.
Then practace, hit a 4 inch circle at 7 yds.
 
sold my Tomcat recently

I wasn't very happy with it. I bought it for the reasons you mention: the tip-up barrel, easily concealed, etc. I sold it because I did not shoot it well. The recoil is worse than 38's in a j-frame, and hurt the web of skin between my thumb and fingers. It is only slightly less concealable than a j-frame, and costs much more to shoot.

Becky
 
I recommend a .22 long rifle revolver for teaching someone to shoot.

Smith & Wesson Model 34 with 4" barrel; Smith and Wesson Model 18, 4" barrel; Smith and Wesson Model 17 with 4" or 6" barrel. Should be able to find one of these in excellent condition for around $250. If that's too expensive then look for an older Charter Arms Pathfinder with 3" barrel-$145, or a Harrington & Richardson Model 999, 6" barrel-$175. I'd buy the Smith and Wesson if possible.
 
Whatever you get her should have a light, controllable trigger and a fair degree of built in accuracy. Recoil should be on the light side.

.22 would be ideal. The only down side is that most .22 pistols (Ruger and Browning) are a pain to take apart, compared to a combat gun. But their operation, recoil spring strength, triggers and inherent accuracy would be ideal. Consider the blued Ruger 22/45 5" bullbarrel for $220. Or you could go to a Ruger Bearcat for a Cowboy style revolver.

Centerfire. Revolvers are great, but do recoil a bit (kind a painful smack, rather than a push) which many woman do not like. To that end, a full sized 4" .38 loaded with light wadcutter loads would be very accurate, eacy to deal with and if bought used, cheap. Look around for a used S&W model 10. Less than $200.

Centerfire Auto. Keep It Simple! 9mm is the best for accuracy, price and simplicity. Most 9mms are recoil operated and have a lighter recoil spring than a .380 (she needs to be able to load it). For simple, small and consistant, the basic steel Kahr K9 has minimal controlls, a VERY small grip and light recoil. Used for $300. Or you could look at an FEG made Hi-power, like the P9M, which is wholesaling for $200. Possibly cheaper, a surplus Star B is a very simple 1911 style 9mm.


Be creative, but always consider: will she be able to operate the slide or DA trigger, will the recoil put her off (you have to work up to recoil) and is the gun generally pleasing in accuracy, looks and operation to keep her shooting?
 
For small hands, I'd definitely look into singlestack guns.

The K9 is excellent. It's plenty for defense and good for target/fun shooting too.
 
The big problem with double-action revolvers is their long heavy triggers. New women shooters just don't have the finger strength to pull it straight and evenly. I have never seen a novice woman shoot a revolver in a non-shotgun like pattern. Most women can shoot a semi-auto well on the first day. If she's willing to dedicate time to working the trigger, revolvers are okay, but forget it otherwise.

A used Springfield or (even better) used Kimber can be found for under $500. Don't go for the smaller gun because of her size, find a lightweight frame and stick with the 4-inch barrel. The single stack magazine provides a thin grip for small hands. The .45 ACP for all it's power is a push compared to the crack of a .40 or even 9mm.

The Kahrs are nice guns, but still have a long DA pull. They are exceptionally smooth and not particularly heavy. These can work for the right person.

I bet that a lot of women would like the H&K P7M8 if it weren't $1,200 new.
 
You didn't say what the gun was for.

For self-defense/carry I'd recommend the sub-compact Glock 26. My girlfriend carried a revolver (S&W Chiefs Special Airweight) and she shot very poorly with it. I got her a Glock 33 and she was much better with it. The Glock 26 (9mm), 27 (.40), and 33 (357SIG) are the same size.

For target shooting it's hard to beat a Ruger Mark II. My girlfriend loves shooting hers. The standard version is lighter than the bull barreled target versions. For an even lighter gun, go with a Ruger 22/45.

I'd stay away from the S&W "22x" series. There are several other really good 22's out there, but they usually cost more than a Ruger.
 
J-Frame S&W 317 .22 LR snubbie meets all of your criteria; great 1st gun for a female, and a neat little plinker for anybody.
 
Perhaps I should have said:

If you get her a revolver, like a model 10, I was expecting it to have an external hammer so she could cock it. A decent revolver will usually have a very decent DA pull, but that's for later.
 
I would vote for a Kahr, Sig 225/239/230/232, 1911 (Full or Commander Size), or a Smith J-Frame.
 
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