Helped a newer shooter out today

Riomouse911

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One of my best friends called me the other day and said his MIL was down visiting from Washington State. Apparently she has an interest in self protection and wanted to go shooting and try out a few firearms to see what type of handgun she might like to get. He said she has shot handguns before and asked me to give her a refresher on gun handling and shooting. He also said she was advised to get a 4” .38 revolver by others, but she wanted to try out some autos as well.

I grabbed a sampling of potentially suitable handguns and laid them out on the table when they arrived. I initially had a S&W Model 442 .38, a 4” Model 15 .38 and a 4” Model 65 .357 and a new Colt Cobra .38. For autos, I took out a CZ75D compact 9mm, a Glock 48 9mm and a Glock 44 .22LR.

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When they arrived we had a three-hour refresher on gun safety, handling and operation. She was a good student and took to the rules really well. Using dummy ammo she learned the differences between the S&W and Colt, loading it and unloading as well.

The issues she had involved hand strength, the weight and grip size of the K frames was almost too much and the DA pull on these revolvers was not easy for her. The Cobra and 442 were smaller and easier to fire DA. But she gave it a go and with effort was able to operate them all. She preferred the Colt over the 442, especially with the extra shot and the slightly heavier weight.

The autos, not so much. After seeing her have to work a bit with the DA revolvers I knew that the CZ would be an issue, both with trigger pull and retracting the slide. Sure enough, it was too much.

The Glock 48 felt better in her hands, but it also was too much for her to operate.

The lightly-sprung Glock 44 .22 was fine. She loaded the magazine with dummy rounds and was able to operate the slide and slide lock. Since the auto I also tried a Ruger Standard .22, but the tiny “ears” on the bolt just weren’t enough for her to get a good grip on.

She then expressed interest in trying a .22 J frame revolver, my two J frame .22’s are a very clean .22/.32 Kit Gun and an 8- shot Model 317. She tried the lightweight 317 and deemed it good.

So, I sent them to the range with the Cobra and Model 15 with a 148 gr WC/2.8 gr Bullseye load and a 146 gr RN over 3.5 gr Unique load. The Glock 44 and Model 317 went with a 325-round box of Federal 40 gr Automatch. (My buddy is a former Marine/LEO and is able to run a safe range.)

I called later, and all had a great time. It looks like MIL will be looking to buy a Colt Cobra in the future. The lighter loads were not too bad recoil-wise, so I recommended Hornady Critical Defense lite as a decent SD option.

She kept the shots on paper and enjoyed the process. I am glad that I was able to give her a chance to “try before you buy” and she found a gun that fit her hands and abilities without buying something that did not. :thumbup:

She understood the need to continue to shoot and become confident with her firearm, I do hope that she is able to keep it up once she finds the gun she is looking for. :)

I hope you all out on THR are able to help another newer shooter out in a similar way, soon. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Excellent! It is always great to help someone who is starting on their journey with firearms. Safety is forefront but it is great to teach them the basics of SA vs DA vs SA/DA vs striker fired. Semi Auto vs Revolver. etc.

I wish I had someone that had several different guns that I could try out when I was first starting out! So I try like to give people the ability to try out several of my hand guns. A friends brother was visiting from Russia... #2 on his list of things he wanted to do here was go shooting (#1 was meeting his sister [half sister] for the first time).

I too like to help out people new to guns. I appreciate being able to reenforce some of the finer points of gun safety that many people never seem to learn.

Good job!
 
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Good on you Riomouse. :thumbup:

I am hoping to get my sister to a range soon. She has my Dad’s old High Standard Sentinel Mk 4 .22 Magnum that I gave her a few years ago for home defense when her husband’s away. She recently admitted to never firing it. I just assumed her my nephew would have taken her. He’s a former Marine.
Anyway, she has arthritis issues in her hands and wrists so we will be doing something similar with a selection of guns.
She really wants to try a Glock. I have a feeling that the 9mm will be a bit much for her. We’ll see. I am sure my G44 will be okay but I would prefer she had something more substantial for a defense gun.
We’ll see.
 
I did something similar with a friend. He held a lot of my handguns and we took a bunch of them to the range. He ended up purchasing a Ruger SP101 with a 3" barrel. Something like that ends up being a good choice for "non gun people" a lot of the time, IMHO.
 
One of my best friends called me the other day and said his MIL was down visiting from Washington State. Apparently she has an interest in self protection and wanted to go shooting and try out a few firearms to see what type of handgun she might like to get. He said she has shot handguns before and asked me to give her a refresher on gun handling and shooting. He also said she was advised to get a 4” .38 revolver by others, but she wanted to try out some autos as well.

I grabbed a sampling of potentially suitable handguns and laid them out on the table when they arrived. I initially had a S&W Model 442 .38, a 4” Model 15 .38 and a 4” Model 65 .357 and a new Colt Cobra .38. For autos, I took out a CZ75D compact 9mm, a Glock 48 9mm and a Glock 44 .22LR.

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When they arrived we had a three-hour refresher on gun safety, handling and operation. She was a good student and took to the rules really well. Using dummy ammo she learned the differences between the S&W and Colt, loading it and unloading as well.

The issues she had involved hand strength, the weight and grip size of the K frames was almost too much and the DA pull on these revolvers was not easy for her. The Cobra and 442 were smaller and easier to fire DA. But she gave it a go and with effort was able to operate them all. She preferred the Colt over the 442, especially with the extra shot and the slightly heavier weight.

The autos, not so much. After seeing her have to work a bit with the DA revolvers I knew that the CZ would be an issue, both with trigger pull and retracting the slide. Sure enough, it was too much.

The Glock 48 felt better in her hands, but it also was too much for her to operate.

The lightly-sprung Glock 44 .22 was fine. She loaded the magazine with dummy rounds and was able to operate the slide and slide lock. Since the auto I also tried a Ruger Standard .22, but the tiny “ears” on the bolt just weren’t enough for her to get a good grip on.

She then expressed interest in trying a .22 J frame revolver, my two J frame .22’s are a very clean .22/.32 Kit Gun and an 8- shot Model 317. She tried the lightweight 317 and deemed it good.

So, I sent them to the range with the Cobra and Model 15 with a 148 gr WC/2.8 gr Bullseye load and a 146 gr RN over 3.5 gr Unique load. The Glock 44 and Model 317 went with a 325-round box of Federal 40 gr Automatch. (My buddy is a former Marine/LEO and is able to run a safe range.)

I called later, and all had a great time. It looks like MIL will be looking to buy a Colt Cobra in the future. The lighter loads were not too bad recoil-wise, so I recommended Hornady Critical Defense lite as a decent SD option.

She kept the shots on paper and enjoyed the process. I am glad that I was able to give her a chance to “try before you buy” and she found a gun that fit her hands and abilities without buying something that did not. :thumbup:

She understood the need to continue to shoot and become confident with her firearm, I do hope that she is able to keep it up once she finds the gun she is looking for. :)

I hope you all out on THR are able to help another newer shooter out in a similar way, soon. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
Well done, sir.
 
Thanks guys. I wasn’t too fired up about the .22 options, but in some cases it is all some people can handle. I guess she was a trooper and really wanted as wide an exposure as possible before deciding.

Once she held/fired the Cobra my buddy said she really understood the difference in power, even with the wadcutters, and how that is potentially beneficial in a SD situation. Her ability to operate/shoot/tolerate the Cobra was the selling point.

Stay safe.
 
and really wanted as wide an exposure as possible before deciding.
This is something I worry about, as such things come around, in that I have fewer "try this" options for having "thinned the herd" to my personal favorites.
So, good job for both having the choices available, and for offering them up to compare.
 
I guess she was a trooper and really wanted as wide an exposure as possible before deciding.

I find there's always a fine line between not taking enough and taking too many, when introducing/reintroducing someone to firearms. Especially when the guns are different platforms.

It looks like MIL will be looking to buy a Colt Cobra in the future.

Revolvers are good choices for those not familiar with firearms. Simple to use and simple to load/unload. No manual safety to think about and fewer problems with ammo.

(My buddy is a former Marine/LEO and is able to run a safe range.)

Good for him. Many folks learn in the service how to shoot and to shoot well. LEOs.......not so much. But being familiar with firearms is always a plus. One of my good friends won the Silver Star in 'Nam. But he hasn't owned a gun since he got out of the service. Few years back I took him out to shoot my 1911s. He hadn't shot a gun in almost 40 years, yet he still almost outshot me with my own guns.

Kudos to you for helping out!
 
excellent karma for riomouse911! and good on his pupil for being engaged and attentive.

i introduced a lawful immigrant to handguns awhile ago: ruger sr22, makarov ij70 380acp, heritage roughrider 22wmr/lr, because these were all that i had with me on that trip. we went shooting a few times. he later joined a shooting range and tried other handguns. he then decided to buy just one handgun: a ruger mark4 22/45 lite (of all things). although i’m a huge rimfire fan i was truly surprised. don’t all young guys want a 9mm polymer wonder blaster like john wick carries? he explained: he wanted one top-shelf, brand-name piece that is reliable, commands respect and fetches a decent price if he sold it later; he intended to practice alot to become proficient and enjoy doing so. he did practice alot and knows it well. going shooting was a useful way for him to get to know one particular young lady. he hasn’t purchased anything else but i sure as heck wouldn’t want to bust into his apartment at 3am to face his 22/45 loaded with cci stingers.
 
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One of my best friends called me the other day and said his MIL was down visiting from Washington State. Apparently she has an interest in self protection and wanted to go shooting and try out a few firearms to see what type of handgun she might like to get. He said she has shot handguns before and asked me to give her a refresher on gun handling and shooting. He also said she was advised to get a 4” .38 revolver by others, but she wanted to try out some autos as well.
Well done sir. A good lead up to gun ownership, particularly with the pre-range safety and operational training. We all need to step up to the job and help a person who's interested in fire arms ownership. You've furthered the cause of responsible gun ownership/use. Rod
 
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