Henry Rifles based on marlin?

Don't know the Henry origins, but, they are very similar to Marlin. Taking the lever out, sliding the bolt out and removing ejector spring are eactly the same as Marlin.
Maybe they copied that after Marlin's patent ran out? Not sure on that tho. Rest of the innards look closely the same. Whatever Henry does, it works well, as my two run flawless.
 
The 30-30, 45-70 type rifles definitely look a bit like Marlins even upon close inspection. Not sure about the internals. If they are, they are in good company because Rossi and Mossberg have both had versions of the design as well. The new Rossi 95 is a good example.

The Henry 22s are based on an older design by Ithaca that Henry purchased.

I’m unsure of the big boy design.
 
The Marlin 336 action is a proven design. There is hardly any difference between my Marlin 1894 and Marlin 336 action, other than the round bolt and enclosed portion of the 336 receiver. I am quite sure the basic design goes back to the 1890's. The round bolt 336 came from the square bolt 36 post WW2.

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I saw a like new square bolt Marlin 36 at the J M Davis gun Museum in Tulsa. It had a color case hardened receiver and it was beautiful!

Per the exploded diagram the Henry action looks like a Marlin. That is all to the good, especially as to clean the barrel, you can easily jack the bolt open, remove the lever screw, and pull the bolt out. And then, clean from the breech. I remember looking at the M1894 Winchester and deciding, it was too complicated to remove the bolt, and you clean that rifle from the front of the barrel.

this has a very short history of Marlin leveractions: https://www.leverguns.com/articles/fryxell/marlin_history.htm

I don't see anything wrong with copying success. If Henry is using a proven action design for their rifle, go for it, and why re invent the wheel?
 
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I had been wondering if one of these would fit my Henry BB X model. Finger lever takedown thumb screw. They’re for Marlin / Glenfield 336’s.
I just looked it up and Yes, these will work with the Henry Lever Action (not rimfire). They’re $29.00.
I can see one of these in my future.
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That's like saying a Browning X bolt is based on the Mauser 98. There are a lot of similarities, the profile looks similar at a distance. But they are different. I think their centerfire rifles are closer in looks anyway to the original Henry.
 
jmr40 said:
That's like saying a Browning X bolt is based on the Mauser 98. There are a lot of similarities, the profile looks similar at a distance. But they are different. I think their centerfire rifles are closer in looks anyway to the original Henry.
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Have you seen an original Henry?

Kevin
 
The Henry Repeating Arms Co founded in 1996 has no historical lineage to the New Haven Company which manufactured "Henry" rifles and which became Winchester. The Henry rimfire rifles are based on the old Ithiaca rifle and the centerfire rifles are a near copy of Marlin 336 actions. The Henry Big Boy receiver has a different shape along the bottom, not the smooth curve of a Marlin but instead an odd and kind of boxy juncture. But internally the mechanism is essentially a Marlin based design. No, parts cannot interchange. Yes the Marlin design does go back to the 1890s. The 336 action (upon which the 1895 is based) is a lengthened 1894 action with a round bolt allowing enclosing the receiver fully and increasing the strength.

Several companies predated the 1996 Henry Repeating Arms company manufacturing toggle link type Henry reproductions.
 
I am sure the Henry's are Marlin 336 copies in the action set up. One big difference is the hammer and trigger on the Henry. There is no half cock. The Henry uses a sliding bar that is trigger raised so it can hit the firing pin. The trigger has to be pulled for the bar to rise just like other transfer bar systems. And no cross bolt safety.

On the pistol caliber guns I really can't say because I have never had one to look at. They look to have a small round bolt but they don't seem to be Marlin 1894 copies. At least as far as I can tell.

And the Henry Long Rangers look to be a Browning BLR copy right down to the rack and pinion operated bolt. I guess if Henry is going to copy at least they picked top notch designs to do it with.

The new Rossi R95 I just bought is a direct Marlin copy with a couple of well thought out changes. If it will ever stop raining around here and dry up a little I can go do some shooting. I have the Rossi and a new Savage Axis in 243 I want to test. But right now its a mud hole everywhere you go. We just got another big rain this morning and more coming for the weekend. Thats Okay by me. I never complain about rain. By July we will be praying for rain. And not getting it.
 
ThomasT said:
I am sure the Henry's are Marlin 336 copies in the action set up. One big difference is the hammer and trigger on the Henry. There is no half cock. The Henry uses a sliding bar that is trigger raised so it can hit the firing pin. The trigger has to be pulled for the bar to rise just like other transfer bar systems. And no cross bolt safety.

On the pistol caliber guns I really can't say because I have never had one to look at. They look to have a small round bolt but they don't seem to be Marlin 1894 copies. At least as far as I can tell.

And the Henry Long Rangers look to be a Browning BLR copy right down to the rack and pinion operated bolt. I guess if Henry is going to copy at least they picked top notch designs to do it with.

The new Rossi R95 I just bought is a direct Marlin copy with a couple of well thought out changes. If it will ever stop raining around here and dry up a little I can go do some shooting. I have the Rossi and a new Savage Axis in 243 I want to test. But right now its a mud hole everywhere you go. We just got another big rain this morning and more coming for the weekend. Thats Okay by me. I never complain about rain. By July we will be praying for rain. And not getting it.
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The Marlin 1894 and the 336 are really much the same. Marlin just enclosed the bolt and made the bolt round. The 336 action is longer to accomdate rifle length cartridges. The Model 1893 evolved into the 1936 which became the 36 and which sometime after WWII becqme the 336 of today. The 1895 (of 1973?) is just a 336 action and is not specifically evolved from the 1895 of yore. And the Henry of 1996 copied the action more or less. The pistol cartridge 1894 never got the round bolt and retains it's vintage appearance.
 
jmr40 said:
That's like saying a Browning X bolt is based on the Mauser 98. There are a lot of similarities, the profile looks similar at a distance. But they are different. I think their centerfire rifles are closer in looks anyway to the original Henry.
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I guess I was thinking how the Glock design has been copied since the patent ran out. Or loosely based anyhow. The new SW and Henry's I thought looked like the Marlin Receiver.
 
The Henry and Marlins seem very similar to me, but hey, why reinvent the wheel? I agree the Henry receiver is boxy looking compared to the Marlins.
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