I am primarily a skeet shooter, but can hold my own on the trap field. I've shot a few rounds with a .410, think I broke a 21 at the best with it from 16 yards. Have to be quick and get them. As for skeet the .410 is the only gauge event that I have not run a 100 straight with. Must of had 20+ 99's when I used to shoot competition, but the 100 eluded me. People like to say "start the kid out with a .410" might not have recoil, but it is the worst thing to try to train them with. Experts gun, or a very close range hunting shotgun. Got to know it's limitations to effectively shoot it.