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Brubz
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Well I will find out today. Going to the range with my Walther P22 and my Ruger Wrangler. I will take the box of 100 Herters .22 I picked up at Cabelas yesterday.
I will post my results
I will post my results
Herters .22 LR
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Here are my results. Took my Walther P22 and Ruger Wrangler and a box of Herters .22Lr to the range. First the P22. No duds and all ejected fine but several times new rounds would not load into the chamber. I had to rack the slide. My P22 is a 10 round mag so out of 30 rounds I had to rack four times in addition to the first time.not good.
Now the Ruger Wrangler, 24 shots. No duds and no problem ejecting spent rounds as some have reported. So I will finish off the box with my Wrangler and my Rough Rider but no more with my P22. Bottom line for a few more dollars I can get CCI Mini Mags and not have the hassle
What is interesting though is 54 shot No duds!
Now the Ruger Wrangler, 24 shots. No duds and no problem ejecting spent rounds as some have reported. So I will finish off the box with my Wrangler and my Rough Rider but no more with my P22. Bottom line for a few more dollars I can get CCI Mini Mags and not have the hassle
What is interesting though is 54 shot No duds!
tark
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If the empty cases ejected but a new round did not load means that the slide did not cycle completely. And if it was occasionally happening like you describe then yo had some rounds that were weaker than others. Be glad you didn't have any squibs.
Limp wristing will definitely effect a 22lr pistol that uses a reciprocating slide way more than ones that only the bolt moves.
JTHunter
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In all likelihood, the "profit margin" on .22 is so low, there isn't a great deal of interest in investing the time or money to improve quality.
Part of it is the time and cost of quality control too. European rimfire manufacturers take more time inspecting their lots of ammo for consistency and quality. American companies pump out as much ammo as they can and don't worry about testing each lot to see how it performs.
With higher priced ammo one gets less variances in muzzle velocity with a smaller standard deviation which equals better accuracy and more consistent tighter groups.
Also any damage to the bullets will also effect accuracy and this is why you never see higher quality 22LR ammo packaged in bulk.
And let's face it, we Americans can be cheap skates and want to buy in bulk at the lowest price. This means that companies pay less attention to quality to achieve the low price point.
Now if all you are doing is hunting and/or casual linking at ranges of 50 yards or less then you don't need the expensive ammo with its better quality control. For those of us that want to shoot the smallest groups possible and/or at long ranges past 100 yards, then quality makes the difference.
With higher priced ammo one gets less variances in muzzle velocity with a smaller standard deviation which equals better accuracy and more consistent tighter groups.
Also any damage to the bullets will also effect accuracy and this is why you never see higher quality 22LR ammo packaged in bulk.
And let's face it, we Americans can be cheap skates and want to buy in bulk at the lowest price. This means that companies pay less attention to quality to achieve the low price point.
Now if all you are doing is hunting and/or casual linking at ranges of 50 yards or less then you don't need the expensive ammo with its better quality control. For those of us that want to shoot the smallest groups possible and/or at long ranges past 100 yards, then quality makes the difference.
That ammo has to be ancient. Herters has been out of business for decades.
A few years ago someone found a large amount of that ammo in a warehouse or something. It was plagued by weak loads and failed to fire problems.
Cabelas must have bought the remaining rounds.
A few years ago someone found a large amount of that ammo in a warehouse or something. It was plagued by weak loads and failed to fire problems.
Cabelas must have bought the remaining rounds.
Correct that the original Herters went out of business a long time ago. But Bass Pro/Cabela's is using the name and having Winchester make the 22LR ammo for them under the Herters name. I do not know who is making the centerfire ammo for Bass Pro under the Herters name. But any Herters ammo you buy from Bass Pro/Cabelas is all new production.
Yes, Herters is history but Cabela's/Bass Pro purchased the trademark for ammunition and applies it to whatever they can obtain at a good price. Most of their centerfire ammunition was steel case Russian or Warsaw pact production years ago. The only distinguishing quality is low price, but it probably is fine for revolvers.
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Brubz
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Just an update. I tried the Herters .22lr in my friends Tx22 and it would not cycle. Seems to work fine in all of my single action revolvers though
JTHunter
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It might just be a little "under-powered" if that's the only problem you had with it. Either that or the springs on your Tx22 might be just a bit too strong. Either way - same result - failed to extract.
