Hey New Yorkers -- How a Lie Spreads Fast

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cuchulainn

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You folk who live in up in New York (especially NYC) might want to contact your local press outlets and put a stop to this lie that's not only spreading, but morphing into an even worse lie in the hands of the press.

Yesterday, in support of Mayor Bloomberg’s anti-gun activity, Children's Defense Fund-New York issued an, ahem, "report" using CDC's 2003 data to claim "that the number of firearm deaths of children in New York was 131 -- more than two per week."
Link to press release: http://www.cdfny.org/News/PressReleases/070706 NY Gun Release.pdf

Of course the number 131 relies on the old lie that counts adults ages 18 and 19 as "children." This is easily seen using CDC's online "WISQARS" database (the number actually is 133; CDF got that wrong too). Indeed, slightly more than half -- 68 -- of the "children" cited by this group were adults ages 18 and 19. Thus the 133 "children" breaks down into 68 adults, 53 adolescents ages 15-17, and only 12 children ages 14 or younger.
Link to WISQARS: http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html

Here's the kicker. That statistical lie referred to New York State. However, an idiot reporter for the NYC ABC affiliate yesterday reported it as referring to New York City, emoting, "More than one child a week is killed by gun violence in New York City."
Link to story transcript: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=4356740
 
Great catch cuchulainn -- I went on a rant at a family dinner party two weeks ago about the antis using gang bangers and teenage thugs in their stats...

BTW I went on the CDC site you referenced. Great information and easy to use.
 
That's like the Bernard Goetz story. The media always referred to his assailents as " children" . But three were 19 and one was 27 !! But another lie is that stated by Bloomberg , that our economy would collapse if all the illegals were deported !! That's added to the lie that illegals take jobs that Americans won't do. But keep repeating it and it will be believed !!!
 
When I last lived in NY, there were...

...26 MILLION residents of the sate of NY. Only 7 million lived in NYC. This was ten years ago. Today, I believe the numbers are 28 and 8.5 million, respectively. Statistically, less than one third of gun deaths in NY must happen in NYC.
 
[QUOTE!! But another lie is that stated by Bloomberg , that our economy would collapse if all the illegals were deported !! ][/QUOTE]

He is also upset by the fact New York would be cut security funds because
they are an illegal sanctuary city.
 
I guess the corollary to the old saying, "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics" is, "there are liars, damn liars, and the media."
 
When I last lived in NY, there were...
...26 MILLION residents of the sate of NY. Only 7 million lived in NYC. This was ten years ago. Today, I believe the numbers are 28 and 8.5 million, respectively. Statistically, less than one third of gun deaths in NY must happen in NYC.

Then you'd think from that, that it'd be safer to live in the city, than to live in the suburbs. Which may, or may not be actually true. I dunno.
 
As long as we're exposing truths and lies, I wish the media would do a better job in pointing out that Anti-gun equates to Pro-terrorism. The biggest terror attack in US history happened in an "anti-gun" zone--a commercial airplane. The terrorists want US citizens disarmed so they can more easily kill us.

The propaganda machine of the antis is a formidible unAmerican force, indeed.
 
I've called many NY politicians

& told them I'm a native newyawka & I've got lots of guns...
thats why they won't get any $ from me cause I aint visiting home
till there is a serious change in the legal landscape...
 
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