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Highest cap center fire modern revolver I've heard about is a 10 shot H&R Mag--what is it, .32 caliber? Otherwise it would go to the 8-shot S&W and Taurus.
 
$20,000 :what:

It doesn't say what the caliber is, but if you knew the OD of a No. 10 (??) nipple, then you could probably guesstimate it from the photo. But I'm too lazy for that. I've read that they made pepperbox revolvers with up to 32 barrels.
 
Is it just me, or do those barrels look like they're all pointing in different directions?
 
Now that's a gun for those who are too lazy to be bothered with cleaning. :D

Imagine if a stray spark set off all the barrels at once. :uhoh: :eek:
 
Dionysusigma said: Imagine if a stray spark set off all the barrels at once.
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Actually that gun is designed to fire all barrels at once, they were refered to as a "pepper" gun, meaning it sprayed lead balls similar to shot out of a shotgun. They were usually small pellets similar to bb's IIRC
 
Been awhile, and the ol' memory ain't what it used to be, but I seem to recall reading of "rampart revolvers" with cylinders having 20, 30, or 40 ( :what: ) chambers . . . I believe they were for defending barricaded positions (fortresses) against invading hordes. :confused:

Anyone have any info on these?
 
i believe Taurus makes a 9-shot .22 revo...

so cool, yet it would take too long to reload, and would have little practical value except target, where high mag.cap isn't exactly necesary... still cool though.

~TMM
 
Actually that gun is designed to fire all barrels at once,
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Then why is there a nipple on each barrel?

I believe the barrels are to be rotated after each shot so that the fresh percussion cap is under the hammer.
 
Then why is there a nipple on each barrel?

I believe the barrels are to be rotated after each shot so that the fresh percussion cap is under the hammer.
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That's the impression I get. The description says that the gun is double action, so I imagine pulling the trigger ring will automatically rotate the barrels and drop the hammer. Hence, double action :)
 
imagine pulling the trigger ring will automatically rotate the barrels and drop the hammer. Hence, double action
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From handling similar guns the "double action" probably means the hammer is cocked with each trigger pull instead of manually.

Every pepperbox I've seen has had manually rotated barrels.
 
Well, I found a source describing Gilles Mariette pepperbox revolvers, and it seems to indicate it's a true double action (i.e., pulling the trigger rotates the barrels). Hard to tell because the source is only available as a bad computerized translation from the original French, but here it is:

While pressing this trigger, the barrels and come to be placed successively places from there for the shooting.
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God knows what that actually means, but I take it to mean true double-action. The barrels are smooth bore -- the notches in the muzzle are for a four-sided key used to remove the barrels for loading. The source I found describes a four barrel Mariette pepperbox in 5mm.
 
That would be cool if the trigger really turned the barrels.

I could use it for IPDA and bowling pin matches. :D
 
Whatever the bore diameter, it's going to be measured in millimeters. It is ... how you say .. French .. after all.

If you need more than 5 shots in a pin match you've already lost ... but for IDPA!? Sounds good to me! :D
 
A "pepperbox" or "cluster" gun fires ALL the shots at once.
If the text describing the gun on the link posted is correct, then what the double action triger does in this case is cock and release the hammer firing all the barrels at the same time.

As for the nipples on the end they are quite likely the firing pins/hammers that are cocked back and relaeased when the gun is fired.
They could also be "ports" that unscrew to load the weapon.




edit: for description of what the nipples are
 
A "pepperbox" or "cluster" gun fires ALL the shots at once.
If the text describing the gun on the link posted is correct, then what the double action triger does in this case is cock and release the hammer firing all the barrels at the same time.

As for the nipples on the end, the text describes the barrels as "screw" barrels, the nipples are most likely the screws that hold the barrels in place, or are screw off ports for loading the gun
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:rolleyes:

No, not even close. If you look at the picture that the OP linked to, those are clearly nipples at the breech end of each barrel.

You are thinking of a "duckfoot" or "duck's foot." For example, here is a pic of a flintlock duckfoot.

Pepperboxes were revolvers, just ones without a separate cylinder and barrel. Unless you experience a chain fire, a pepperbox fires only one barrel per pull of the trigger.
 
Rotorflyr, I hate to argue about this, but you're flat-out completely dead wrong. Anybody who's ever shot a cap & ball revolver can tell you the nipples on this piece are just that -- nipples! They're not hammers, they're not firing pins (this is a muzzle loader), they're not loading ports, they're nipples. The barrels unscrew for loading (hence the notches in the muzzles).
 
Your right that a duckfoot also fires all barrels at once, but I disagree with your thinking that the gun in the first set of pictures is simply a multi barrel revolver. If you look at the pictures again, pay attention to the layout of the barrels. There is no way a single firing pin can ignite charges in both the inner and outer barrels. If it was just a revolver a single pin would only be able to hit either the inner or the outer barrels but not both.
 
Cortland,
No argument, read my previous post and then explain to me how a revolver with a single firing pin (or hammer) can fire cylinders (or barrels) that rotate around two different axis.

Over all it's irrelivant to me if this is a revolver or not as it's 20k, and I don't have that kind of money to spend anyway :D
 
The nipples are not attached to the barrels directly. The nipples are screwed into the receiver, and the flame from each nipple travels through flash channels that lead to each barrel.

Think of a paper cartridge Sharps falling block. The nipple is by no means in line with the chamber -- the flame has to travel through a twisting flash channel to get the chamber.

So the "receiver" of this gun has 18 flash channels drilled into it -- some of which go straight into the outer barrels, some of which are angled in to get to the inner barrels.

I'm not sure what you mean with respect to rotation around two different axes. Everything forward of the silver band on the grip rotates as one.
 
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