Hi power Clones

[greyling22]

Since feg went under a few years back there aren't any hi power clones currently being manufactured are there? Nothing out of Turkey?

I don't need one, but I'd sure like a hi power that wasn't stupid expensive or beat to #*&@

I know you can find various grades of imports on gun broker, but by the time i brought one up to par it is no longer cost effective.

 

[bannockburn]

My brother has an Argentine FM which can still be found on occasion and a friend of mine has an FEG version. Both guns are not as nicely built or finished as the real thing but both are very serviceable and reliable Hi-Power clones.

 

[1948CJ2A]

I picked up a FEG P9M a few months ago on Gunbroker very cheap. I was expecting a rough example but when it arrived, it had nice polished bluing with some handling marks but nothing bad. I checkered the wood grips. I'm very pleased with it. The first thing I did was remove the magazine trigger safety. Doing that made the trigger much better.

 

[RPZ]

Arcus made some, I think in Bulgaria. Have not seen one in years, but when they came out they had really good reviews.

 

[sarge83]

I picked up a FEG P9M a few months ago on Gunbroker very cheap. I was expecting a rough example but when it arrived, it had nice polished bluing with some handling marks but nothing bad. I checkered the wood grips. I'm very pleased with it. The first thing I did was remove the magazine trigger safety. Doing that made the trigger much better.

I have had an FEG for years and it has been a pleasant surprise, accurate, nice finish and reliable. Mine is a PJK 9HP version.

 

[DT Guy]

Tisas has one, and it's been imported into Canada as (seriously) 'the Canuck.' True to the original, down to the tiny sights and safety.

If they start importing a version with dovetailed sights, I'm going to have to try one to save my 'real' HP's from carry wear.

Larry

 

[FL-NC]

Those Argentine FM pistols aren't bad. Much better than I thought, as it turns out. Short story- I worked as an instructor in a training unit where foreign weapons familiarization is part of the course. Needless to say, we had some pretty impressive weapons on hand. As vintage BHPs became unserviceable due to decades of wear and tear, at one point a quantity of the Argentine pistols were brought in as replacements. Not only did they perform well, they did so through thousands of rounds, many timed disassembly and assemble drills, and in the hands of people who weren't near as gentle with them as if they would have been had those pistols been their personal property.

 

[FL-NC]

As an aside, the Panamanian border police uses the FEG clones (along with Hungarian AMD 65 AK's) and those FEG pistols did well as service weapons in the jungle environment- as long as they had a good coat of motor oil on the blued finish (or what remained of the blued finish).

 

[Monac]

I have one of the Inglis High Power clones made in India. It is a very good gun, but only a tiny number (350? 500?) were ever exported to the US. The Indian Ordnance Factory website gives the impression that it is still being manufactured: http://ofb.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/7.htm

 

[Sunray]

The CZ 75 is a BHP clone. Norinco makes one too. Don't think you can get one of those though. It's actually a clone of the FEG clone.
There's one by Charles Daly too. Discontinued though.
You need to decide on a budget first.

 

[Monac]

The CZ 75 is a BHP clone. Norinco makes one too. Don't think you can get one of those though. It's actually a clone of the FEG clone.
There's one by Charles Daly too. Discontinued though.
You need to decide on a budget first.

What do you mean when you say that the CZ 75 is a clone of the Browning High Power, Sunray? Or perhaps I don't understand how "clone" is being used here. I thought it meant "identical except for cosmetic features", the way the Springfield, Kimber, or Remington 45 automatic pistols are clones of the Colt model 1911. The CZ 75 is far more different from the BHP than that.

 

[Deaf Smith]

I've owned FEG and FM as well as Belgium and 'Portugal' P-35s. Even a Nazi on once.

All worked fine. I'd love to try a Ingus though!

Deaf

 

[rbernie]

I know you can find various grades of imports on gun broker, but by the time i brought one up to par it is no longer cost effective.

It does seem that GB only has either recent imports of some dogged out FEG duty guns from Israel or something vastly overpriced from a pawn shop who wants to treat the gun as if its a real BHP.

You can occasionally find a decent deal on a FN rollmarked BHP, since they command lower prices than the Browning rollmarked models.

What do you mean when you say that the CZ 75 is a clone of the Browning High Power

I'm sure that the two are identical, if you discount the SA/DA FCG and ignore the differing designs approaches, dimensions and geometries for literally every aspect of the frame and slide.

 

[Gordon]

I didn't want to mess with my Browning Practical , My Nato MK2 , My T series mark 1 , my Inglis and gave my Feg to my son so I aquired an unfired FM marked FN from the early 90s and had it filled with C&S parts by me and a set of Heine Slant Pro Tritiums. . It is getting cerracoated but this is how it looks. Idon't see to much difference between the workmanship on it and an FN

 

[Dain Bramage]

BHP and CZ 75 share the 9mm Parabellum cartridge, and some design philosophies; like double stack magazines and the Browning-type tilting barrel. While slide and frame cutouts make them look vaguely similar, they share no parts and are not "clones".

 

[greyling22]

Looks like tisas has what I want, I just can't get it. Wish it was legal o run up to Canada and go gun shopping. Grab the tisas and a couple Norinco rifles while I am there. Maybe see a moose or something Canadian.

 

[Speedo66]

AIM Surplus has these currently for sale, used, refinished....

https://www.aimsurplus.com/product....um+Hi+Power+9mm+Pistol+Mk2+Style&groupid=8406

 

[Mayvik]

FEGs are still around, I think Southern Ohio Gun had some last I was browsing. My first handgun for my 18th bday. Need to send it to Novak sometime and get the sights upgraded. Put some slim wood grips and a C&S ambi safety on a few years ago. Carry occassionally but switched to some other options because I can't stand thinking of it abused in an evidence room.

 

[Nature Boy]

The CZ 75 is a BHP clone

Not even close

 

[mjsdwash]

The CZ 75 is a BHP clone. Norinco makes one too. Don't think you can get one of those though. It's actually a clone of the FEG clone.
There's one by Charles Daly too. Discontinued though.
You need to decide on a budget first.

Im guessing he means in a practical way. Aside from the DA trigger, theres not much difference in the way they point, handle, look, feel. That is, that someone who wants a Hipower for its characteristics, rather than its name or history, may be happy with a CZ 75. I assume this because most people Iv'e met who liked Hp's love CZ's. So while they're not a clone, they're not wildly different.

 

[JTQ]

Im guessing he means in a practical way. Aside from the DA trigger, theres not much difference in the way they point, handle, look, feel. That is, that someone who wants a Hipower for its characteristics, rather than its name or history, may be happy with a CZ 75. I assume this because most people Iv'e met who liked Hp's love CZ's. So while they're not a clone, they're not wildly different.

If you like the Hi-Power because the trigger reach is short, and the thumb safety reach is also short, making it small hand friendly, a CZ 75B will be a disappointment. The CZ 75B is not small hand friendly.

 

[DT Guy]

If you like the Hi-Power because the trigger reach is short, and the thumb safety reach is also short, making it small hand friendly, a CZ 75B will be a disappointment. The CZ 75B is not small hand friendly.

Yep. I have tried and tried to love CZ's, going through two 75b's and a 75SA; girly fingers just can't enjoy a CZ like a BHP.


Larry

 

[mjsdwash]

If you like the Hi-Power because the trigger reach is short, and the thumb safety reach is also short, making it small hand friendly, a CZ 75B will be a disappointment. The CZ 75B is not small hand friendly.

I hear that a lot, but my 75 is 1/16 narrower than a GI 1911, and about the same grip reach. The DA trigger though, not so much. Thats a real reach. The SA trigger is pretty comfortable, but like the whole last generation of revolver people, I tend to forget about the DA until a bad primer anyway. The safety is a little weird. Close enough to make you think its there, just far enough to keep you from developing a new habit. Its also much easier to move, which may be good or bad depending on taste. Either way, before buying an 1100$ gun, or searching for a used or off brand (Though I think FEG is excellent), it may be worth feeling the closest widely available alternative.

 

[DT Guy]

I hear that a lot, but my 75 is 1/16 narrower than a GI 1911, and about the same grip reach. The DA trigger though, not so much. Thats a real reach. The SA trigger is pretty comfortable, but like the whole last generation of revolver people, I tend to forget about the DA until a bad primer anyway. The safety is a little weird. Close enough to make you think its there, just far enough to keep you from developing a new habit. Its also much easier to move, which may be good or bad depending on taste. Either way, before buying an 1100$ gun, or searching for a used or off brand (Though I think FEG is excellent), it may be worth feeling the closest widely available alternative.

For me, the grip depth (frontstrap to backstrap) dimension on the CZ (which is greater than a BHP) is the stopper. Too long for my girly fingers.


Larry

 

[I6turbo]

I don't need one, but I'd sure like a hi power that wasn't stupid expensive or beat to #*&@

I know you can find various grades of imports on gun broker, but by the time i brought one up to par it is no longer cost effective.

How much are you willing to pay for a nice one? If you keep an eye out you can pick up a very nice one in the $500 - $550 range (plus shipping and transfer), and a perfectly serviceable one (but a bit more cosmetically-challenged) for a hundred bucks less than that. This one http://www.gunbroker.com/item/637779629 was a good bit better than average for the selling price, but still a good example of a good buys that pop up from time to time.

Here's my '94 model MK III as received. I paid $480 for from Mach 1 Arsenal (great people, IME). It was pristine internally, happened to have a fantastic trigger for a Hi Power, and has never malfunctioned. Next to my CZs this BHP is my favorite semi-auto handgun and would be one of the last I'd voluntarily sell. I recommend you get one.