High Brass and Magnum/Semi Magnum shotshell..any relationship??

[saturno_v]

At one trap range, a guy was asked to use different shotshells because the High Brass 2 3/4" ammo was using was a "Magnum" or "Semi Magnum" and no such loads are allowed in that range.
The range master told him that a High Brass shotshell is a Magnum load by definition.
Is that true?? I thought there was no relationship between regular traditional old fashion high brass loads and Magnum (or Semi Magnum) loads.
A Magnum load, by definition, should be a 3" shell, right??
The high brass case has no intrinsic higher strength, it's just a visual reminder for the shooter that it is a little bit more powered shell.
As far as I know, the high brass/low brass construction it's a legacy of the old paper shells where a burn through the paper could occur if the powder space was not surrounded by brass.

 

[ArmedBear]

As far as I know, the high brass/low brass construction it's a legacy of the old paper shells where a burn through the paper could occur if the powder space was not surrounded by brass.

True, and black powder took more space.

However, I have a box of #5 shot 1 3/8 oz. 1330 fps pheasant loads sitting on my bench at home. I'd call that a "magnum" 12 Gauge load, even if it is a 2 3/4" shell, and it wouldn't be safe at a trap range.

 

[huntsman]

A Magnum load, by definition, should be a 3" shell, right??

unless it's a baby magnum which is a 2-3/4" 12 gauge shell with 1-1/2oz of shot.

 

[Virginian]

I've seen ranges limit shot size but not loads. How does this "range master" feel about reloads?

 

[cat_IT_guy]

In my estimation, a range master that does not allow reloads would be out of business very quickly. Nearly all of the high volume clay shooters choose to reload.

 

[Virginian]

In my estimation, a range master that does not allow reloads would be out of business very quickly. Nearly all of the high volume clay shooters choose to reload.

I agree but how does this "expert" know you haven't slipped in a MAGNUM loading on him?

 

[saturno_v]

Virginian

The guy as soon as he sees a high brass shell he assumes it is a magnum (the same happened to guys with some particularly loud loads that could be or not be Magnum)

I know it is idiotic but this is what it is....