HK USP .40 Tactical: Rediculously Tactical (DUW)

[BerettaNut92]

clubsoda22
>> maybe you're one of those guys who thinks if it's not a (1911, Sig, revolver with blued steel and walnut grips, etc) it's not worth your consideration. If so, start your own thread about how "plastic guns are stupid" or whatever your beef is. Better yet, learn to appreciate all guns. <<

Techbrute carries a Glock. In a manpurse

But seriously guys, if he likes it and shoots it more, who cares what it looks like?

 

[clubsoda22]

With that suppressor hanging off the end, it's not very practical for a carry weapon though.

Being 18, all my guns are for the range or home defence. Also, an HK USPf is a little on the big size for concealed carry. Would you have packed your .45 tactical? It's not heavy, but would certainly be very noticable under a shirt.

From now on, maybe you could all treat this as you would an IPSC competitors gun? Not saying that it's ready to compete in nationals, but It's built for a purpose: accuracy, quick folow ups and looking neat. It's a competition gun. I never advertised it as "the ultimate carry gun" or anything of the sort.

Skunky has the right attitude here. It's a neat looking toy.

If an increase in accuracy and controlability is all you're looking for...

No, not at all. I think skunky coined the term "tacticality"...that's really what i was going for. It looks neat and does its job. I have a bersa for when the government finally deems me eligable to pack heat, if you thought i was gonna carry the HK in any of its incarnations.....

One more thing about the whole "gyroscopic" issue...

Once again, i'm no engineer. I don't care how something works as long as it does. Example:

It really did make a noticeable difference in muzzle flip.

Yes, clever marketing, the physics of it are probably very hard to understand so he compared it to something so regular people know what he's talking about. I don't care, because it does exactly what it is advertised to do.

 

[Kestrel]

There's really nothing wrong with liking something like that. No, it's not a carry piece, but there's nothing wrong with having a gun for fun, home defense, range, etc. I just meant it's not practical for carry. Every gun doesn't have to be practical for carry, though. No offense.





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Yet another SANE gun owner not even considering voting for the retarded socialist democratic candidate...

 

[clubsoda22]

Exactly steve. That makes sence. A desert eagle may be completely impractical for a lot of things, but a lot of people buy them for the fun factor. My gun may not be practical for carry, but who cares how big a home defence gun is? Once I put the UTL on, it will be an excellent home defence piece.

If i got a carry piece like a glock 26, I wouldn't be adding a threaded barrel and flash supressor or some huge muzzle break to it for recoil reduction as the main purpuse of the gun is to slide in my belt and disappear. If i wanted to reduce felt recoil for faster follow ups i'd do something like a double captive recoil spring (tested thoroughly of course). Something that doesn't stick out of the gun or get in the way. I have something like that on my taurus and i find that it works well.

As far as the HK goes, this is not a gun you'd be tucking inside your waistband. It's gonna be big and scarry looking, and chuck lots of lead very fast and very accurately. For a gun that never leaves the home except to turn heads at the range, it's an excellent choice...and at least it's more practical than a desert eagle

 

[BerettaNut92]

Clubsoda, coupla things:

>> From now on, maybe you could all treat this as you would an IPSC competitors gun? <<

You could probably get away with shooting it in limited 10. I don't know how USPSA treats flash suppressors, but if you call it a 'muzzle brake' (aka compensator) you may get thrown in the Open division. That means you have a 10-rd combat gun going up against guys with .38 super compensated & scoped raceguns...and 30 rd magazines To get a quicker draw you may consider a dropped and offset holster with a speedcut, so the flashsuppressor clears the leather quicker.

>> I think skunky coined the term "tacticality"...that's really what i was going for. <<

That also involves a makeover. Khaki RR pants and black Oakley boots are color of the day. T-shirts with flames and skulls

>> My gun may not be practical for carry <<

Says who? With the right body type, pants, belt, holster and cover garment, you'll be surprised what you can carry. The muzzle brake may make it look like you have a dry-erase marker in your back pocket though. If you look hard enough, you can find something that will work for you.

, but who cares how big a home defence gun is? Once I put the UTL on, it will be an excellent home defence piece.

>> If i wanted to reduce felt recoil for faster follow ups i'd do something like a double captive recoil spring (tested thoroughly of course). Something that doesn't stick out of the gun or get in the way. <<

Doesn't the USP have that? (not a gun plumber) Also, post pics of your shooting grip and stance maybe we can help you

 

[clubsoda22]

USP's have it fron the factory, the one in my taurus is aftermarket.

When i said treat it like you would an IPSC competators gun, i didn't mean it's a gun you would do that with. I meant treat it like a gun that was modified outside the realm of normal for a purpose.

As far as my shooting grip and stance, with my friends factory glock 19 i could put 4 shots per second accurately in the kill zone of a shilouette at 10 yards. With less recoil, i can do it even more accurately. I am quite a good at combat shooting and i'm not building the gun to gt around thins like practicing. I know how to control recoil, but obviously can shoot faster and more accurately with less recoil.

 

[natedog]

I don't know what your deal is or why you're trying to flame me, . Where did I flame you? Just because I don't care for your latest toy doesn't mean I attacked you personally. Just relax. You don't need to justify your purchases to me.

Just as you don't need to comment on his purchases if you don't like them.

 

[TechBrute]

My mistake, I thought this was a discussion forum.

 

[BlkHawk73]

I just don't understand the logic here. The Tactical model is simply a USP with different sights, different bbl, different trigger. These upgrades cost the buyer a couple hundred dollars more than the basic USP. Yet you buy the Tactical model and replace the o-ring bbl with another o-ring bbl and replace the sights. More $ spent. Why not buy the less expensive USP and add these extras? You'd still have the same thing with the exception of the target trigger which can be changed by HK for a small fee (but less than what a bbl and sights cost) Maybe I go more for practical usefullness rather than badd-assness. Or is it praticallity rather than tacticality
No offence intended, It's a great firearm - I just don't get this "tactical" obsession sometimes.

 

[Kaxter]

What I really cant stand is when people rain on others parades. People can see that Club2 is excited about his new purchase, yet they still voice their "opinions" in an extremely negative way and then force him to engage in a conversation where he has to prove the worthiness of his new gun, very lame people indeed.

I like the gun by the way, very neat.

 

[tcdrennen]

Hey, clubsoda -

Not to hijack the thread (though it seems to be wandering off all by its lonesome anyway ) but if you're midway between Chadd's Ford and Phoenixville, you gotta be somewhere around West Chester or Downingtown, yes?

I lived in Chester Springs growing up ('62 - '73 when I went off to boot camp); we used to go pheasant/rabbit/squirrel hunting by walking about 1/2 mile to the nearest corn field and/or woods, for deer we had to go maybe a mile further. I don't believe I ever shot at an indoor range there (though there was an archery place on US 30 in Exton I used to hang out in sometimes in bad weather )

French Creek and Birchrunville were great hiking/camping/hunting areas back then; some of the older guys had worked at the French Creek quarry when it was still open.

I know from reports the area has changed a lot - more suburban now (which was starting before I left) but am curious if all the open fields and woods are gone.

Oh, BTW - I like your pistol, though my Original USP45 is still stock, hex barrel and all. Enjoy!

And I'll not question your Deanophilia - young uns are entitled to passionate politics even when it's misplaced. Heck, when I was 13 or 14 I was rather enamored of the Communist Manifesto until I discovered Ayn Rand, then grew out of Objectivism into a small-'l' libertarian by my mid-20s. And in Chester County PA (like Orange County CA today ) preferring Socialists and/or Democrats over Repugnicans has always been a way to Buck The Establishment.

 

[BlkHawk73]

Kaxter,

"Rain on another's parade" and "voice their "opinions" in an extremely negative way" are words you wrote that I'm guessing were in response to my post.

Hold that thought.

Clicking on your homepage link in your profile brings up a page where the heading reads "Vilification discussion Forums - Speak Your *ucking Mind".

Hypocricy? :banghead:

I too would be happy with that purchase as I'm sure Clubsoda22 is and deservably should be. As I said before, it's a great firearm. I was mearly stating my thoughts & opinions & questions. Guess I'm not allowed to do that here huh? All for one right but not for others? Hypocricy?

 

[BerettaNut92]

>> I just don't understand the logic here. The Tactical model is simply a USP with different sights, different bbl, different trigger. These upgrades cost the buyer a couple hundred dollars more than the basic USP. Yet you buy the Tactical model and replace the o-ring bbl with another o-ring bbl and replace the sights. More $ spent. Why not buy the less expensive USP and add these extras? <<

AFAIK, there is no 40. There is the USP Tactical which is a 45, and the USP 9-SD (or something like that) which has the threaded barrel--but no such beast in 40.

 

[Kaxter]

Lol, if you would have burrowed just a touch further into my site...(as I'm sure you didn't when you gleefully read the title of my site), you would know that it was created for people to vent when they got fired from their jobs after years of diligent service like I was...and I'm STILL bitter by the way). It all becomes clear now doesn't it?

Now that we have that little bit of info settled, we shall move on to the point of my original post.

As I am sure you read the introductory title of my post, you will see that what I couldn't stand was when people go out of their way to make others feel like they have blown their money so they they themselves will feel good about their most recent purchase. If you need this kind of validation its more than fine with me.

And by now you might be getting the point of this whole conversation. I brought you out, picked apart your post, and disagreed with you for the sole purpose of making you look inferior to others...the exact thing you did to someone else...and you took the bait with a mighty gusto if I do say so myself. I'm not saying that I am better than anyone, as I am sure many people don't like me due to my opinionated sarcastic cynical manner, but thats the whole glory of webforum now isn't it? Oh the irony of it all.

 

[TechBrute]

Y'all play nice now. CS22's USP: fair game. Petty bickering: thread hijack.

What I really cant stand is when people rain on others parades.

That's ok, you don't have to like it. By posting on this forums you open yourself to other people's praise and criticism. I own a Glock (well, more than one, really). By posting that, I open myself up to everyone who thinks that they are plastic, KaBooming pieces of crap. I own a few ARs. Talk about starting a flamefest.

If you don't like criticism, stay away from the internet.

 

[harrydog]

harrydog said:
"With that suppressor hanging off the end, it's not very practical for a carry weapon though."

clubsoda said:
"Being 18, all my guns are for the range or home defence. Also, an HK USPf is a little on the big size for concealed carry. Would you have packed your .45 tactical? It's not heavy, but would certainly be very noticable under a shirt."

Of course. I only pointed this out because you had said the gun was "completely practical in every aspect." It's not.




Kaxter said:
"What I really cant stand is when people rain on others parades. People can see that Club2 is excited about his new purchase, yet they still voice their "opinions" in an extremely negative way and then force him to engage in a conversation where he has to prove the worthiness of his new gun, very lame people indeed.
I like the gun by the way, very neat."


I think it's a neat gun too, but if all he was looking for was to be smothered with compliments on the gun, he should have posted this over at the HK-Pro forum.

 

[clubsoda22]

Why not buy the less expensive USP and add these extras?

That's exactly what i did.

as to my location, i'm near ardmore at home and in Chester at school.

 

[rayjay]

Here's a pic of my USP 40 and Don Hume H721 OT. I like it just the way it is. The only change I made to it was installing Mepro adj. nite sites. Recoil is light for me even though it fires the 40 Slappy & Wesson