Hmmmm.... Winchester 1878 SxS 12ga.

[Ratdog68]

Haven't posted about this one, 'cause it's basically a modern firearm as I understand.

I've got a replica of this gun, made by Rossi (Interarms of VA, made in Brazil). You'd have to live in WA State to get the joke, but I call it the "Governator". It's chambered for 3" loads, and has the exposed hammers.

To my knowledge, this gun was purchased new and has been sitting in a gun safe and hasn't been fired (but it will be). It appears to be a fairly low serial number (1508) and still has some of the gunk it was slathered with for shipping. I snagged it up last year for a fair price.

Since it's a "modern" that "looks like" the old cap fired Winchester... it'll require modern shotgun shells. What I'm kicking around though is... since getting parts for this thing is a "tough luck Charlie" affair (should anything ever go wrong with it)... my thinking is that it may be easier on this gun to have modern shells loaded with BP type powder.

Anyone have any history with this model, or type... is my thinking out in left field here?

 

[Das Jaeger]

Left Field

Interarms was just the importer , Rossi and Taurus are in co-hoots now , you should be able find parts . Not that you'll probably ever need them .
I like my Governator fine too Ratface68 , my Senanator is cool too , but can't show that one on-line, hee hee hee .
As far as being poliitically correct or Hysterically correct , especaily on this forum or in life , well , hardly any of us actually own allot of OLD GUNS . Your Rossi is no farther out in space than any Italian Replica Colt in my opinion .
As far as BP loads , good idea , and there toooooo much fun too , shoot um up man Although that gun can handle 3" high base brass easilly all day long mind you in modern shells .
Congrats on your purchase , alwasy liked those Rossi's

Das Jaeger

 

[Ratdog68]

Wasn't aware that Rossi and Taurus were joining forces. Nice to know... and comforting to know parts can be had... thanks.

For those "outside" of WA State... the rest of the joke of this being called the "Governator" is that twice now... a close race has been had between the witch in office and her opponent in the last two races.... "Dino Rossi".

 

[Das Jaeger]

Well now

lets be more truthfull than that Ratdog68 , it was a complete slap in the face to Democracy and an out and out scandel both times , true corruption is what it is . The only counting that was done was of money , not votes .
:

Bend over Washingtonians , "Skeletor" is in the House now !

Now back to guns , yours . If you do use thsoe BP shells, make your own up , Box Load um , you'll have good results . Read up on Square loads or Box loads man , its interesting reading and it works great . Youc an use slugs in her too with BP loads so itsa multi purpose gun for sure , your gonna have blast , bad punn , but true

Das Jaeger , Dino Rossi for Jesus !

PS..........Go to Taurus's website , looky see , Rossi is there too with their entire product line , life time warranty an all just like Taurus, one in the same company now . We win !

 

[Ratdog68]

No arguements here on "how" the vote count got manipulated. She needs to be taken out to the dump and beat to death with both our senators as clubs. The only problem is the resulting Sh#t-splatter would be a true attack on the environment with the spread of real toxic waste. But, we have the technology to clean it up and make the world a better place afterwards.

Hmmmm... "box loads", huh? I'll have to look into that. Yup... already been salivating on the notion of slugs. Shot plenty of 'em through my Winchester 1200 Police (18" barrel)... a definate hoot for sure.

 

[rcmodel]

Black powder will not significantly reduce wear and tear on the gun.

Pressures are not that much different.
The differance is, BP produces all it's pressure all at once, in and shortly in front of the chamber, while Smokeless produces it more gradually over a little longer distance down the barrel. That causes old damascus barrels to blow out where they are weaker 10" -12" in front of the chambers.

If you propel the shot charge at 1,200 FPS using either powder, the back-thrust on the action is the same regardless of which powder you use to do it.

Since you have modern steel barrels made for modern smokeless 3" Magnum loads, there is certainly no problem using 2 3/4" smokeless loads.

Black Powder will significantly increase rust & corrosion unless you throughly clean all the BP residue out of it with a water based cleaning product, (Hot soap & water, Windex, etc.) and oil everything after you get it dried out.

rc

 

[BCRider]

My own SxS that I'm using for the CAS stuff is great fun. In my case it's a Russian Baikal shortened to about 20 inch barrels and the main springs slightly lightened so it stays open for loading instead of partially closing. No exposed hammers on mine though.

The chambers are just loose enough that when I break it open and give the gun a little shuck to the rear the shells fly out over my shoulder along with a puff of the smoke still in the barrel. Superb fun...

Either way there's just always been something "right" looking to me when it comes to SxS's. The O/U's just can't seem to achieve the same grace and appeal to the eye as putting the tubes side by each. As the saying goes "our eyes are side by side and so should be our barrels"

 

[arcticap]

I've got a whole bunch of old 12 guage smokeless paper shotshells.
Someone told me that cowboy shooters like to use them because they produce more smoke than the modern plastic smokeless shotshells.
Does anyone know if any of this is true?

 

[BCRider]

For those that enjoy the smoke it would be a nice compromise between shooting the real black powder and shooting modern almost smokeless shells. Seems like it would be a rapidly vanishing commodity though.