Holster frustration-isolating Sig 229R/CZ from sweat, Kydex shell Too Tight.

[Ignition Override]

Moving up from the Russian Makarov, in its IWB Remora, has caused some disappointment.
It survived constant summer jogging in a hot humid climate with no corrosion.

Makarov is now gone--the cash helped pay for a '98 Sig 225 range gun/collector! The carry gun now can be either the P229R Sig or a used CZ PO1.

Have tried both the 229R and CZ in this Crossbreed with hard Kydex shell. You can Not pull the gun out with one hand, and if you manage to, one clip usually comes out of my pants/belt.

And the guns' grips protrude/print if I bend fwd. a little bit.

The other IWB holster is soft polyester ( two tight clips) allows either gun to be pulled out with one hand, prints a bit less, but is very narrow and doesn't shield the muzzle or hammer/grip from sweat.
Either I'll simply choose one gun to contact a sweaty body using CLP every night (internals?), or Assume that buying AlienGear does clearly better holding the bottom of the grip closer to your body And allows easier pull with one hand?

 

[Mizar]

Since I carry a full sized all-steel gun all year long every day in a leather IWB holster, similar to Milt Sparks Summer Carry, I really don't see the problem - summers round here are hot and humid, but I have no problems with rust. Grips are offering enough protection for the frame from sweat with minimum care. And do get a holster with belt loops, not clips - it's slower to put in, but it's more secure when you draw your gun.

P.S. I really think that running with a heavy gun in an IWB holster without positive gun retention system of some sort (and with belt clips) is a bad idea, but this is just me...

 

[SharpDog]

That's the main reason I carry an M1A1 or a Mk. 25 internal phosphate coated.

 

[Ignition Override]

There seems to be a solution using the same Crossbreed with Kydex.

It has a 229-1 marking on the back of it (from Cross. or the gun shop which sold it?):
Both the 228 collector Sig and the 225 range/collector are fairly easy to pull out with one hand.

That P229R must be too tight due to the gun's rail. The only hang-up is that I'm not about to put much wear on the pristine 228, and the classic 1998 225 is nice and a bit of a collector also.
Will check whether Kydex makes a slightly larger shell for a modern Sig 229R with the rail.

 

[bannockburn]

Ignition Overide

I have both a SIG P229R which I carry in a DeSantis E-Gat slide holster and a CZ P01 which uses a DeSantis Mini-Scabbard. Both holsters are leather and are OWB designs and hold the guns very close to my body but still allow easy access when drawn. If perspiration is a problem maybe wear a t-shirt underneath or use an anti-perspirant in the area where the gun and holster come in contact with your body.

 

[Ignition Override]

We always wear t-shirts underneath our main shirts in this Memphis climate, at least after wintertime.
OWB might be an option, although it's possible that for my preferred IWB maybe Kydex sells a unique shell for the 229R which easily allows the Crossbreed screws to hold it firmly?

Will keep your brands for OWB in mind, if such an OWB is as easy to conceal as an IWB under a single outer t-shirt. Yours single OWB clip must require a wide belt for support.

 

[bannockburn]

Ignition Override

The two OWB holsters I mentioned both have belt slots that keep the holster firmly attached to a very sturdy gun belt.

 

[Telekinesis]

Will check whether Kydex makes a slightly larger shell for a modern Sig 229R with the rail.

Kydex is a material, not a manufacturer.

Check with crossbreed - they may make a holster specifically for the 229R. Unless they've changed their design, the kydex shell is permanately attached to the backing and can not be changed by the user. Some holster makers do have hybrid type holsters that you can swap the kydex portion on, but I don't believe Crossbreed is one of them.

Another option (I would do this after checking to see if crossbreed sells a 229R specific holster) is to modify the kydex shell that you have. Put your gun in the holster, take some reflective HVAC type tape (which will reflect heat) and tape over everything but the area around the rail section (definitely cover the trigger guard) and then use a heat gun to slowly heat up the rail section of the holster. It will cause the holster to slightly deform and loosen. As I said, be sure that you are not heating the trigger guard section because that's an area that you DO want retention from. And work slowly, unless you have a kydex press you will have a hard time adding retention if you go too far.

Have tried both the 229R and CZ in this Crossbreed with hard Kydex shell. You can Not pull the gun out with one hand, and if you manage to, one clip usually comes out of my pants/belt.

Are you trying to use both guns in the same holster? Crossbreeds (and the vast majority of kydex holsters) are model specific (allowing that guns with the same frame geometry can usually share holsters, like a Glock 17/19/26 can all fit in the same holster). It is highly unlikely that a crossbreed will fit both a Sig and a CZ...

And your comment on the holster coming out/ detaching when you draw is why a lot of people (including myself) like belt loops rather than clips.

Regarding the sweating issue, you'll want a full body shield on the holster. Look up NSR holsters. They are fully kydex and several have full body shields.

 

[Ignition Override]

Telekineses:
Thanks for the detailed info. It was just curiosity which prompted me to try the CZ.

The back of the Crossbreed has "229-1" written on it, and I bought it on impulse.I was totally mistaken about the shell. The only adjustment was how high the leather holster sits behind your pants.

I would rather have a Different holster and still use this .40 cal. P229, because it is Not a collector gun, than use the nice range/collector P225 in this same Crossbreed holster, which could harm the finish (?)

 

[Telekinesis]

Crossbreed looks to have at least 4 different versions of P229 holsters, so it's very likely that you got the wrong one.

I'm not sure I'd say a P225 is a collector gun, but using it with a holster will put wear on the it. If you want to keep the gun pristine, I'd avoid putting it in any holster.

Take a look at some of the other all kydex holster makers like NSR Tactical and Bravo Concealment. Both good companies that make excellent products. I'm sure they both have holsters that will work for your 229, just make sure you order the right holster (call or email them if you have questions - I know that NSR has great customer service and I've heard the same about Bravo).

 

[bannockburn]

Ignition Override

Maybe check out the holsters at Stealth Gear USA. According to their website their Ventcore line of holsters have: "multiple layers of breathable and moisture wicking material". This should help alleviate some of your concerns about sweat causing damage to the finish of your guns.