Holy Big Bore Batman!!!

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I just got back from a fun filled family day at the Mus. of Natural History in DC, well fun until I had to ditch my benchmade before I entered the building...but I digress.

I was amazed at the displays of dinosaurs, but not for the obvious reason. All I kept thinking about while looking at the big beasts was shot placement if you had to take one of these things down. I am not a hunter mind you, but I couldn't help but think about all of that heavy bone, and where to place a round if it should ever come up. Then I had to think about doing it with a spear. I know, I know, it never happened, and they were all dead and buried before we started hunting with spears, but all of those silly movies have ruined my sense of things.

Just a thought...All in all it was a great day, and I got my knife back from the planter out fronnt when we left.

mk
 
It's been discussed before, but briefly:

The most recent phylogenics studies suggest that pneumatization is a synapomorphy of the dinosaur and pterosaur clade, at least. In other words, they breathed like birds, so lung shots will be difficult because the lungs proper, as opposed to the air sacs, which are used in respiration, but lack the extensive blood vessels and vascularization that make them vulnerable to gunfire, are small. The vital zone may well be differently shaped than what you're used to as a result of this.

Guntech insists that it's unimportant, but the dromaeosauridae also had large sternal plates, which might compromise the proper expansion of hollowpoint ammunition when striking the animals from the front, and would certainly cause difficulty with broadhead arrows. So, for the sake of the children, please don't hunt velociraptors (or their larger, nastier kin) with bows and arrows.
 
To sum up PercyShelley's short (but longwinded) post:

Use enough explosive to blow it up twice. :evil:








(I mean no real offense, PercyShelley... I actually learned something there. :) )
 
I would think that this is the perfect use for a Barrett M82. Should be able to track the buggers pretty easily (from the shaking of the earth) and it should only take one magazine to put them down. Of course, it would be advisable to take the longest shot possible, but that shouldn't be too hard. The spine would be a good target on a T-Rex, just aim slightly inboard and below the base of the skull.
 
Diony, didnt they do that with a grey whale that washed up in Oregon back in the '50s? Used too much dynamite and blew whale all over the people who came to watch. I think I saw it on youtube. I searched it but couldnt find it again.
 
Having been a Dino-phile for nearly my whole life (though not to the extent of Mr. Shelley), I can only tell you what worked so well for me; my BB gun. T Rex, Bronto's, Stego's, etc, they all fell to the mighty Daisy '94... as did a plethora of various army men.
 
So this would be the "what caliber for dinosaurs" thread :rolleyes:
 
If, as mr Shelley suggests, they are built like birds, wouldn't up-scaled bird shot work? Like load a cannon full of grape shot. Either that or just about anything in .50BMG would probably work nicely.
 
Pretty much anything that could produce mass trauma would work fine. A 15lb cannonball. A group of 15lb cannonballs. An FGM-148 Javelin. A Chevy Silverado. All equally effective.

However, I think you're best option is arrows or shotgun grenades loaded with a bit of HE. Place the shot high on the neck and you're in business. Certainly cheaper and more efficient than blowing it to Mars or running it down with a truck.


-T.
 
I vote 4-bore.

With Cesium cored hollowpoints.

Seriously. If all you do is piss it off, your screwed on a scale not possible with todays wildlife. :eek:

EDIT: I'd probably hunt a dinosaur with a double rifle, but my backup would be at LEAST six guys with Lahti's.
 
until I had to ditch my benchmade before I entered the building...but I digress.
Did they detect it at the door? I went right through with my CRKT six months ago when I was up there last. Clipped and inside the waistline of my jeans as to not display the tell tale clip. ;)
 
If you shot the bugger at long enough range you could smack at it all day and it would never know where the f#%k that stinging boom was coming from. That's assuming it stuck around long enough.
 
Jcoldiron,

No they didn't. I brought it to the attention of the security guard before the metal detectors. He then informed my I had no right of protection and could not come inside with the knife. I then offered to surrender it to him for pick-up when I left. He looked me right in the eye and said, "it won't be here when I come back." I took it outside and placed it in the planter outside the door and walked right through the metal detectors with my keys, a medium belt buckle, a bunch of coins and large steel writing pen, my back-up hand held line of defence. I realized at that point that I could have kept my mouth shut and been just fine like you did.

Ahhh life in the big city...:barf::cuss::barf:

mk
 
So once you have decided on a caliber I guess the next question would be the following.

Since they are the only ones that are in the business, how much does a museum charge to mount a T-Rex?
 
Ahhh this fantasy again....


I'd guess .50 minimum. Probably in a M2 machine gun, or a quad .50 even. Herds of meat eaters would definitely require a quad .50!

20mm even better. Get one of those Finnish Anti Tank rifles.
 
This reminds me of a long-standing curiosity of mine:

1) What would dinosaur taste like? I wonder if thorugh some miracle we will one day be able to enjoy vat-grown dino meat, based on DNA samples etc. I suspect the answer's No, but still, I can dream.

2) How would you cook it, bearing in mind your opinion of #1? Now, of course, I wouldn't expect all dinos to taste the same; I wonder which ones would taste best. Perhaps one of those huge swamp-living herbivores. Still. If you had both dino meat (you pick which kind and which cut), and access to modern ingredients, what would you do to combine them tastily? (Marinate in lime, chili flakes, wine and garlic? That combo is hard to beat as a marinade for most grillable meats.)

As for the best way to shoot ... I think a headshot from a .50 BMG would put down a pretty big dinosaur. For some of them, I'm sure a .45 would have been enough.

timothy
 
I would think that this is the perfect use for a Barrett M82.

They used a Barrett M-95 in Jurassic Park 3.

Since we are having so much fun analyzing what it would take to bring a T-Rex down, how about looking in to what it would take to bag this puppy, which does not include stabbing him in his vitals.

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Just because the dinosaurs left the building 64 million years before we invented the spear doesn't mean we didn't have some nasties that would need a .460 Weatherby.

Take the Giant Moa for instance: the largest of them grew to the height of 13 feet, and had claws long enough to reach a human heart. If they kicked similar to modern ostritches size for size, the person kicked by said moa wouldn't have to worry about fatal lacerations as his ribs would be driven through his own back.

Smilodons and other sabre-toothed cats also were quite nasty.
 
1) What would dinosaur taste like?

Depends. Probably close to an ostrich, if it were one of the raptor-like dinos. My guess is that the large plant eaters would be close to beef or perhaps elephant, assuming that modern theories that they were warm blooded are correct.
 
I'd like to try using Hillibama as bait while I bagged the dino live with a trank gun. ;)

After it was full, of course... :evil:
 
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