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I took the new to me Ruger Single Seven to the range today. I picked up a box of Federal American Eagle 100 gr soft points.

I own a Redhawk and a S&W 586 so I know about shooting heavy loads in a DA revolver.

That little Ruger banged up the middle finger on my right hand pretty well. It shoots like a laser if I do my part. But I need to figure out how to shoot a SA revolver and not beat up my middle finger.

It's amazing how Ruger managed to put seven rounds of high pressure ammo into a package originally designed to hold six rounds of .22 LR

I've got everything I need to load for it so the next thing is to load up some mid range ammo and get used to shooting it.
 
I bet handling the birdshead model is challenging! Shot a friend's small frame SW .357 that cut up my trigger finger, gave up after 5 rounds. What a weenie, I know!
 
Curl your pinky underneath the grip. Problem solved.

I'm not great at shooting single action revolvers but this seems to be the "hot set up". I'm a big fan of S&W DA revolvers.

I've worked hard to put Pachmayr Presentation grips on several of my single action Rugers and they help. I just have not gotten around to trying the pinky under the grip hold on the relovlvers.

It sounds like the "pinky under the grip" will help with shooting a single action revolver. Thanks for the tip. Maybe the rain will stop and I can get to the range.
 
I'm reading this and holding a Uberti SA in my hand trying to figure our how your middle finger is getting whacked. The only way I can find for this to happen is if I twist the revolver so that the barrel is NOT lined up, or nearly lined up, with my forearm, as it should be. My particular revolver is a 37 oz. 45 Colt from which I fire a 290 gr. SWC @ almost 1000 fps and I've never had my middle finger smacked by the trigger guard. Same with my SA .357's firing 165 gr. SWC's 1300 fps.

As far as curling the pinky under the grip, yes it definitely moves the middle finger out of harms way, but I can't effectively support a revolver with only two fingers on the grip.

35W
 
I'm a bit amazed too. I have no first had experience with the .327 cartridge, but would have thought 5 rounds of that high pressure cartridge in a revolver that size might have been a challenge. I'm not surprised about the recoil though. Doing the power factor math, .327 recoil impulse would appear to approximate shooting 9mm +P or +P+ in a little revolver. That I have done, and recoil is a bit snappier than many might assume.

BTW, revolvers with any significant recoil, both single and double action, sometimes smack my middle finger pretty good too. Holding on to any of them with just two fingers doesn't work for me.
 
My first handgun was a Ruger Single Six in 22lr. I got it when I was 15 years old. I was taught that the proper way to shoot a SA revolver was to curl the pinky under the grip. I always shoot them two-handed, so I get support from my other hand, too. I hold them a little more loosely than my other handguns and let them roll upwards with the recoil just a little bit.

That's how I shoot all of my SA revolvers: Single Sixes, Blackhawks, and even my Super Blackhawk 44 magnum with the notorious squared-off trigger guard. I have XXL hands and never ever whack my middle finger when shooting them. In fact, I probably shoot my SA revolvers generally better than any of my other handguns (not a high bar, admittedly).

We're all different, and it probably doesn't work for everyone. But it's the "old-school" way that I was taught back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and it's always worked for me. :)

Here is a gratuitous picture of my Single Six 32 H&R magnum. I congratulate the OP on his purchase of the improved model!

 
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Those Federal 100gr JSP are hot rounds ! I used to have a Charter 327..
I could always tell the difference when useing that fodder !
 
I though a filler behind the trigger guard was the way to prevent 3rd finger being slammed. My T/C .357Max was particularly bad about that. I made a leather "ring" for my third finger which basically filled the area behind the guard.
 
I though a filler behind the trigger guard was the way to prevent 3rd finger being slammed. My T/C .357Max was particularly bad about that. I made a leather "ring" for my third finger which basically filled the area behind the guard.

On the Single Six frame there's not enough room for a filler.

I'm reading this and holding a Uberti SA in my hand trying to figure our how your middle finger is getting whacked. The only way I can find for this to happen is if I twist the revolver so that the barrel is NOT lined up, or nearly lined up, with my forearm, as it should be. My particular revolver is a 37 oz. 45 Colt from which I fire a 290 gr. SWC @ almost 1000 fps and I've never had my middle finger smacked by the trigger guard. Same with my SA .357's firing 165 gr. SWC's 1300 fps.

As far as curling the pinky under the grip, yes it definitely moves the middle finger out of harms way, but I can't effectively support a revolver with only two fingers on the grip.

35W

That Uberti SA has a lot more room behind the trigger guard than a Single Six frame does.
 
Curl your pinky underneath the grip. Problem solved.

I'll give that a try.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Blackhawk Convertible in .45 Colt and .45 Short Colt. I picked up a set of .45 Colt dies on closeout last month and I need something to use them in,
 
I was never taught anything about how to hold an SA.
I just figured it out myself on my first SA at 17.
Pinky under, in every SA caliber I own.
Denis
 
I'll give that a try.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Blackhawk Convertible in .45 Colt and .45 Short Colt. I picked up a set of .45 Colt dies on closeout last month and I need something to use them in,
Now that’s the way to get a new gun! Buy the dies to justify the gun! How did you make mama believe this? I really need to know for my next gun!!!!!!:rofl:
 
I'll give that a try.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Blackhawk Convertible in .45 Colt and .45 Short Colt. I picked up a set of .45 Colt dies on closeout last month and I need something to use them in,
Hey check out eagle gunfighter grips too. THey are a good bit skinnier than the factory grips (just about 3/8" per panel vs 1/2" per panel for factory). Their profile encourages a pinky under hold, also since they are thinner it will help get you finger away from the trigger guard a bit. Well worth the price. The bump at the top of the grip helps give a consistent grip.
 

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Check out the Altamont oversize grips for the Single Six frame. I put a set on my Single Seven and they are great! Recoil tamed, and it doesn't roll up in your hand or whack your knuckles. Only thing I need now is a Belt Mountain base pin to keep it from jumping on me.
 
You need a grip that fills the space behind the trigger guard. This used to happen all the time with my .357s and my .45LC Blackhawk until I put Hogues on. Problem completely solved.
 
I took the new to me Ruger Single Seven to the range today. I picked up a box of Federal American Eagle 100 gr soft points.

I own a Redhawk and a S&W 586 so I know about shooting heavy loads in a DA revolver.

That little Ruger banged up the middle finger on my right hand pretty well. It shoots like a laser if I do my part. But I need to figure out how to shoot a SA revolver and not beat up my middle finger.

It's amazing how Ruger managed to put seven rounds of high pressure ammo into a package originally designed to hold six rounds of .22 LR

I've got everything I need to load for it so the next thing is to load up some mid range ammo and get used to shooting it.

Congrats on the new gun.
I'm pretty sure you can load 32 magnum, 32 S&W long, 32ACP, 32 short and 327magnum for that pistol. The more I see and hear about this caliber the higher it gets on my list.
 
"I'm pretty sure you can load 32 magnum, 32 S&W long, 32ACP, 32 short and 327magnum for that pistol. The more I see and hear about this caliber the higher it gets on my list."


32 H&R magnum is a very cool caliber and a 327 will shoot them just fine. A 327 will also shoot 32 S&W long or "short" just fine (as will a revolver chambered in 32 H&R).

My experience with 32acp has been mixed. I had a bunch of WWB 32's that wouldn't work in my European 32acp pistols, so I used them up in my 32 magnum and 327 revolvers. The results were interesting. I tried them in six revolvers: two shot them just fine every time, two would fire some of the rounds and not others, two of them wouldn't fire them at all. My guess is something to do with the length of their firing pins. If the 32acp's will fire, they are perfectly safe in 32 H&R or 327 revolvers. I won't try them in my 32 S&W long revolvers, because they are higher-pressure rounds than the revolver was designed for.
 
Those Federal 100gr JSP are hot rounds ! I used to have a Charter 327..
I could always tell the difference when useing that fodder !

Aye they are! In terms ov 327 recoil, i'd rate them like this from heaviest recoil to least although entries 3-6 are subjectively close IME:
Buffalo bore 130gr keith
Federal 100gr sp
CCI 100gr hp
Buffalo bore 100gr hp
Reeds 100gr sp
Reeds 135gr hex
Federal 85gr sp

Out ov my lcr, a box ov the 100gr federals would certainly have my hand sore the following day or two. I generally shoot 32 long with only 12-18 327 at range visits nowadays.
 
I've ordered a set of Hogue rubber grips to see if that helps.

I'm going to track down some Hornady 100 gr XTP bullets and load them up.

I did order a 133 gr Keith mold from Arsenal molds. That should be a really good heavy bullet for this gun.

The guy I got it from shot a lot of .32 ACP through it. Right now I'm trying to find some more brass for it. Once fired brass in any of the .32 revolver rounds is pretty scarce.
 
I have a Colt SA clone. No matter how I grip the thing it bangs up my middle finger and that's with ordinary 45 Colt loads. I'm seriously considering Hogue grips.
 
My first handgun was a Ruger Single Six in 22lr. I got it when I was 15 years old. I was taught that the proper way to shoot a SA revolver was to curl the pinky under the grip. I always shoot them two-handed, so I get support from my other hand, too. I hold them a little more loosely than my other handguns and let them roll upwards with the recoil just a little bit.

That's how I shoot all of my SA revolvers: Single Sixes, Blackhawks, and even my Super Blackhawk 44 magnum with the notorious squared-off trigger guard. I have XXL hands and never ever whack my middle finger when shooting them. In fact, I probably shoot my SA revolvers generally better than any of my other handguns (not a high bar, admittedly).

We're all different, and it probably doesn't work for everyone. But it's the "old-school" way that I was taught back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and it's always worked for me. :)

Here is a gratuitous picture of my Single Six 32 H&R magnum. I congratulate the OP on his purchase of the improved model!

Exactly. For me a saa is the easiest to shoot well, the simplicity and comfort are really where its at. In my experience there is no need for anything but a standard plastic grip, actually more rubbery or sticky/grippy stocks are no good. Pinky under the grip and let that puppy roll upwards under recoil. I can tell you honestly this is the most comfortable. If you lock down too hard and fight the recoil it can be a little rough. Dick casull, hamilton bowen, john linebaugh and their type know what their doing putting out saa designs in the most punishing of all calibers. Ive fired a freedom arms 83 in 454 (amazing) and own a super redhawk in the same caliber, even with the extra weight the ruger has a more pronounced recoil i believe due to design. Similar idea to shooting big bore DA guns, let that thing move a bit and dont try to arm wrestle the gun. Heavy recoiling DAs i usually need to adjust my grip between shots if im shooting for comfort, in an emergency id like to think id just lock down and ride the recoil but ive never needed to shoot any gun in self defense let alone something that has some power. 90% of shooting is technique in my opinion, the remaining 10% is your choice in firearm and ammo . The 1 exception being the usaf zip gun, i think its not meant to be fired.
 
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