Home Invasion Survivor, Discovery Channel, July 6

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Obvious failure of hardening their house but it would be interesting to see if they knew the attackers, presumably they weren't involved in nefarious activities since they are showing the story on TV.
Shame we have to live behind bars on our windows to feel safe.
 
Fred excellent video, I wasn't aware of that news agency, but excellent reporting as well something we're not used to from the main stream media.
 
Obvious failure of hardening their house but it would be interesting to see if they knew the attackers, presumably they weren't involved in nefarious activities since they are showing the story on TV.
Shame we have to live behind bars on our windows to feel safe.
Do you happen to know of any statistics as to how many break-ins are prevented by window bars?

I did see somewhere that 85% of break-ins are through a door, so it's clear to me that the steel security doors are a good investment, but window bars seem iffier to me, not least because they can be dangerous in case of a fire.
 
I think that once you harden doors then windows will be the focus.
I rented a house in Rio Rancho NM that had window bars with releases inside so they could be opened in a fire.
 
A quick note about bars on windows... Yes, they're dangerous for the occupants -every few years down here in paradise we have a fatality (sometimes an entire family) trapped by their own security.....

On the other hand I've long pointed out to anyone looking to buy/rent down here.... avoid any neighborhood where most of the houses have bars on their windows...
 
stainless steel mesh security screens havent come to the US in volume yet but they are starting to.

They act as solar screens to reduce the heat getting into your house and are easily releasable from the inside.

They require an angle grinder to get through.
 
While safety is paramount, I'd be concerned about the sizable depreciation of property value with steel bars on the windows. And it also seems to advertise you've got something worth protecting. In an old neighborhood my neighbor was the only one in a few square miles that had these bars. They were an eyesore. Her front door was also the same as everyone elses, common steel, screws and deadbolt. So the bars were a waste of money. After she lost her home in foreclosure for non-payment, the new owners promptly removed the ugly bars.

A strong adult man can kick down any civilian front door in a matter of a few hard kicks or a sledge hammer. It's just screws and bolts into a thin steel and/or wood frame.

Anyone with a truck and a tow strap can yank those bars off in an instant. Thousands of dollars wasted in security theater.

Lights, cameras, a loud dog, and a trained person with a gun, and locking up valuables in a real safe are the best security unless you want to live in a hardened concrete bunker.
 
I think that once you harden doors then windows will be the focus.
I rented a house in Rio Rancho NM that had window bars with releases inside so they could be opened in a fire.
So you don't think would-be burglars would just go to an easier target, i.e. a house with a regular door? (Assuming your house doesn't scream "rich".)
 
No one could ever convince me that neighborhoods without hardened windows and doors are any safer. All that tells me, is that it's a newer subdivision, or one that the bad guys haven't yet discovered.

GS
 
I saw that case yesterday, I won't say she got "lucky", it had to be divine intervention because the perp had a sawed off 12 gauge to her head and let her live.
 
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elevation may help

Just a thought for you guys...

We hit ledge (not uncommon in these parts) and couldn't dig the cellar hole as deep as we wanted when I built our house. So we have to go up four steps to enter the house. Our windows are not the huge type that go down to a foot off the floor, but rather start at chair rail height...

So when you stand on the ground outside of any of our windows, the bottom of the window is roughly 6' up. So any entry through a ground floor window will require a ladder.

Now I just need to stop being lazy and lock up the barn where all of my ladders are :uhoh:
 
When someone brings enough rigging to start to pull your house apart they either know you are not home, know you are unable to defend yourself, or know you have enough behind those doors/bars to make it worth the risk.
The bottom line with any security be it hardening your exterior, having a panic room, or a vault fit for a bank, you are only as strong and safe as your ability to resist giving in when there is a gun to a loved ones head.
 
A strong adult man can kick down any civilian front door in a matter of a few hard kicks or a sledge hammer. It's just screws and bolts into a thin steel and/or wood frame.

Anyone with a truck and a tow strap can yank those bars off in an instant. Thousands of dollars wasted in security theater.

No house is ever going to be break-in proof. It's just about making it more of a PITA than it's worth. For instance, in our home we have those long vertical windows that run along either side of the door. When we looked at the house before buying it I already knew this was a security risk because someone could break the window next to the door handle, and simply reach in to unlock. I installed 1/4" Lexan sheets behind those windows. If someone breaks the glass, he's going to be surprised by the layer of Lexan that hasn't broken, and that he now has to get through. But here he is, standing in front of my house, having just made a bunch of noise in a suburban neighborhood... Nobody is going to stand around there and start wailing on the Lexan enough to knock it out. Once he's made noise he knows he has to get into the house and get out. Standing there is bad, m'kay?
Could he knock out the lexan? Sure. But it would take a LOT of effort. More than it's worth.
The Lexan is just one of the measures I've taken to secure the home.

Ultimately, its all about not being the easy target in the neighborhood. I'm one of only 2-3 homes with an ADT sign in the lawn, I keep motion sensor lights outside, and have some dummy cameras, along with two noisy dogs (also dummies, but I love them and they bark a lot!). Sure someone can break in, but if I were the crook scoping out the neighborhood, I'd go for the other homes first.
 
On the contrary, bars on the windows might advertise wealth inside.

Definitely agree on that point.

But what I meant about picking another house was:
house x has security doors but no bars on the windows,
house y across the street doesn't have security doors,
I would think that assuming both houses appear equally valuable, a burglar would sooner try house y than start breaking and climbing through windows on house x.

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Heck a Ranger bass boat or new pickup points to wealth in the home. Drive down most residential streets and homes with wealth are fairly easy to determine.
If anything having overt security on and around your home displays a determination to defend the security of that home.
If one is willing to make the noise kicking in that door I don't see them have any apprehension breaking out a window and crawling in.
 
Shame we have to live behind bars on our windows to feel safe.
Sure would be. Glad we don't have to where I live.
Heck a Ranger bass boat or new pickup points to wealth in the home.
Not necessarily. Just about every newly married couple here has one or both of those but certainly aren't wealthy by any means.
On the contrary, bars on the windows MIGHT advertise wealth inside.
Wealth? No but certainly something I value very much. My family. So glad it hasn't come to that here....yet. As a matter of fact, up until about 3 months ago when some dope heads came around early one Saturday morning, we didn't even LOCK our doors.
 
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