Hornady brass AGAIN!

[exbrit49]

Bought 500 pieces once fired 45 colt brass and almost 100 rounds are the Hornady which are .054" too short. They measure 1.231 rather than the 1.285 SAAMI spec.
I just sent Hornady a message asking when they are going to mark these darn things something other than 45 colt. To be labelled 45 Colt, they shoud meet the SAAMI Spec.
I would like to see all the people that have been caught by this, contact Hornady and let them know we arent happy, I DID!
At an average of 20 cents a round, I am not happy about sending these for scrap! I guess I could load them up by changing all the die setting and then setting up new OAL and seating depths, but its just too much of a hassle!
Oh well thank goodness the other mfrs are still holding the SAAMI length. I cant even comprehend what Hornady was thinking, surely they must have realized that by trying to make the brass fit some of the lever actions it would screw up the round for modern pistols?


Roger

 

[Josh45]

Don't know, Sounds like a few lemons or someone is getting lazy at QC. I wouldn't scrap them if I was you. Not yet. Let Hornady contact you back and see what they can do for you. They may or may not ask for the brass back or they might just send some other as replacement.

I am always checking my rifle brass length. As for pistol I never do unless it looks really odd to me.

 

[kingmt]

How can you get a 45 colt to work in a pistol?

 

[exbrit49]

There are several 45 calibers, The one t which I referred is the 45 Colt , the one I think you are referring to is the 45 ACP. there is also a 45 Casull
My Ruger Blackhawk can shoot either the Colt or the ACP as it has interchangeable cylinders, and yes it is a PISTOL.

 

[gman82001]

^^^^^^Did I miss somethin?

I bought some once fired for my vaquero same thing... I just shoot starline now and don't mess with the hornady

 

[rcmodel]

Well everybody wants .45 Long Colt and there ain't no such thing.

Be different.

Trim them to .99995" or something, and call them .45 EXBRIT49 SHORT.

It'll make you famous!

rc

 

[JLDickmon]

adjust the dies to seat the bullets properly and load 'em til they crack....

 

[highlander 5]

You forgot about 45 S&W otherwise known as 45 Schofield.

 

[ReloaderFred]

What the OP fails to realize is the ammunition manufacturers aren't making brass for reloading. They're making brass for the loaded ammunition they sell. Hornady isn't in the business of making brass for reloaders like Winchester and Remington do, so they aren't concerned about their brass being a little short when someone tries to reload it.

With that said, I just sort out the Hornady .45 Colt brass and when I have enough to mess with, I reset my seating die and crimp die, and shoot it along with the rest of my .45 Colt brass.

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[beatledog7]

Hornady brass is a tad shorter than SAAMI spec in many chamberings. Aint' no big thing.

 

[El Guero]

I think Hornady makes a lot of brass shorter on account of all those FTX bullets they use.

 

[buck460XVR]

What the OP fails to realize is the ammunition manufacturers aren't making brass for reloading. They're making brass for the loaded ammunition they sell. Hornady isn't in the business of making brass for reloaders like Winchester and Remington do, so they aren't concerned about their brass being a little short when someone tries to reload it.


Fred

Actually Hornady does make brass for reloaders, I buy it for the .460. It is available in rifle and in many handgun calibers including .45 Colt. Just like Winchester or Remington. Go here to their website......http://www.hornady.com/reloading/cases


I think what the OP may have experienced if it's once fired, it may be factory .45 caliber FTX Leverevolution ammo where the brass needs to be trimmed short in order to feed properly in lever action carbines. I think they spec 1.215 trim length for use with that bullet with 1.230 as max..

 

[ReloaderFred]

I stand corrected on the Hornady brass for sale as a component.

Fred

 

[steveno]

any of the Hornady brass that could be used with their flextip bullets will be shorter than standard length. that way when loaded with the flextip bullet the oal can be met. 357 , 45 Colt and 45-70 for sure are this way. the Latest Hornady reloading manual makes note of this

 

[kingmt]

There are several 45 calibers, The one t which I referred is the 45 Colt , the one I think you are referring to is the 45 ACP. there is also a 45 Casull
My Ruger Blackhawk can shoot either the Colt or the ACP as it has interchangeable cylinders, and yes it is a PISTOL.

I always called them a revolver or handgun. You can say warsh & I'll call it wash. I was just playing anyhow.

 

[blarby]

any of the Hornady brass that could be used with their flextip bullets will be shorter than standard length. that way when loaded with the flextip bullet the oal can be met. 357 , 45 Colt and 45-70 for sure are this way. the Latest Hornady reloading manual makes note of this

^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Its been mentioned twice now

You have a few options :

Scrap it.

Set 'em all aside until you get enough that its worth resetting your dies for a run.

Cut all your other brass to this length. ( not advised, but hey.... )

Load your hornady factory loaded and fired brass with FTX bullets.


Sorry to say,
Hornady isn't going to go back and re-engineer all of their commercial equipment and the whole pointy bullet line to make their brass more consistent with the rest of the pack.

What Fred said was actually true in a sense.

If you find a source of hornady reloading brass, they are cut to normal spec.

If you buy their factory loaded ammo with FTX, it isn't.

This also occurs in their .30-30 brass. As a result, I save the hornady once fired brass I acquire and use it exclusively for reloading the pointy lever bullets...which isnt often. They usually get loaded and set in the closet. I need 23 more pieces before I buy another box of the bullets.... I'm not searching for them, but it will happen.

Just buy starline brass and be done with it, if you are buying brass anyway. Its super competitively priced, and of unbelievable quality.

 

[mdemetz]

any of the Hornady brass that could be used with their flextip bullets will be shorter than standard length. that way when loaded with the flextip bullet the oal can be met. 357 , 45 Colt and 45-70 for sure are this way. the Latest Hornady reloading manual makes note of this

I have some 44 Mag cases that are short too.