Snowdog
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It's been a while since I've posted as I already know just about everything and have little need for assistance rofl.
Here's the situation: Bear sightings where I live in WNC have risen exponentially. Where it used to be rare enough to record on your phone, it's now something we're seeing every other day. They are far less timid than they used to be and on occasion challenge folks walking their dogs or doing yard work.
I don't hunt bear, but I did purchase a RIA 10mm last year when sightings picked up. My wife purchased something that I had forgotten I'd asked for as a birthday gift, an XDm 5.25 and a Rowland conversion kit for it.
So now I have both a 10mm and a .460 Rowland serving the same role.
So here's the question: If you were walking your dog or performing yard work near large wooded areas where large black bear are seen often, multiple times a day on occasion, which would you choose?
The 10mm has 3 Tripp Research 9 round magazines.
The .460 Rowland has three 13-round magazines, reduced to a capacity of 11 with the stronger spring to compensate for the additional slide velocity (without it the pistol will sometimes fail to strip the next cartridge from the magazine).
Below are the rounds I have on hand, about 200 or so of each. All work flawlessly from these 2 pistols.
10mm Underwood 140gr Extreme Penetrators - Listed at 1500 FPS/ 700 ft/lbs
10mm Underwood 200gr XTP - 1250 FPS/694 ft/lbs
TNoutdoors9 found these averaged 1261 FPS from a G20, so the numbers are likely not exaggerated.
.460 Rowland Underwood 200gr Extreme Penetrators - Listed at 1400 FPS / 870 ft/lbs
.460 Rowland Johnny's 240gr Magnum XTP - Listed at 1350 FPS / 957 ft/lbs
I shoot both about as well as the other and would carry either in a Kydex/leather IWB. Both carry about the same, with the XDm being longer (due to the required compensator).
Neither had yet to malfunction in any concerning way lately.
The RIA 10mm did have an issue with the slide locking back with rounds still in the magazine when using hot Underwood loads. A flat bottom firing pin stop, replaced recoil and mainspring eliminated that.
The XDm 5.25 with Rowland conversion had heavier magazine springs installed, making the pistol perfectly reliable but stripping 2 rounds (1 if the last round is really crammed in there) from the capacity.
So, between these, which would you choose? and for goodness sake do not suggest a shotgun
Here's the situation: Bear sightings where I live in WNC have risen exponentially. Where it used to be rare enough to record on your phone, it's now something we're seeing every other day. They are far less timid than they used to be and on occasion challenge folks walking their dogs or doing yard work.
I don't hunt bear, but I did purchase a RIA 10mm last year when sightings picked up. My wife purchased something that I had forgotten I'd asked for as a birthday gift, an XDm 5.25 and a Rowland conversion kit for it.
So now I have both a 10mm and a .460 Rowland serving the same role.
So here's the question: If you were walking your dog or performing yard work near large wooded areas where large black bear are seen often, multiple times a day on occasion, which would you choose?
The 10mm has 3 Tripp Research 9 round magazines.
The .460 Rowland has three 13-round magazines, reduced to a capacity of 11 with the stronger spring to compensate for the additional slide velocity (without it the pistol will sometimes fail to strip the next cartridge from the magazine).
Below are the rounds I have on hand, about 200 or so of each. All work flawlessly from these 2 pistols.
10mm Underwood 140gr Extreme Penetrators - Listed at 1500 FPS/ 700 ft/lbs
10mm Underwood 200gr XTP - 1250 FPS/694 ft/lbs
TNoutdoors9 found these averaged 1261 FPS from a G20, so the numbers are likely not exaggerated.
.460 Rowland Underwood 200gr Extreme Penetrators - Listed at 1400 FPS / 870 ft/lbs
.460 Rowland Johnny's 240gr Magnum XTP - Listed at 1350 FPS / 957 ft/lbs
I shoot both about as well as the other and would carry either in a Kydex/leather IWB. Both carry about the same, with the XDm being longer (due to the required compensator).
Neither had yet to malfunction in any concerning way lately.
The RIA 10mm did have an issue with the slide locking back with rounds still in the magazine when using hot Underwood loads. A flat bottom firing pin stop, replaced recoil and mainspring eliminated that.
The XDm 5.25 with Rowland conversion had heavier magazine springs installed, making the pistol perfectly reliable but stripping 2 rounds (1 if the last round is really crammed in there) from the capacity.
So, between these, which would you choose? and for goodness sake do not suggest a shotgun