Houston the next New Orleans?

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Tropical storm Rita is approaching somewhere between Houston and Corpus Christi, TX. I heard some meteorological egghead talking about how Rita could be stronger than the 1900-Galveston storm.

In light of recent events I went out and bought 2 cases of MREs and will probably need to get some more ammo. I only have around 30 rounds of 9mm and 20 .45acp and 250 rounds of 5.56mm.

I'm hoping 5.56mm machinegun fire will be sufficient to persuade any potential looters to go elsewhere without actually having to smoke one. Besides water and ammo is there anything else I should add to my to-buy list?

CHP had better learn from their mistakes in NO. I'll be at least as well armed as the jackboots if they come for my property, and there is no way in hell I am handing over a $9000 MG. :fire:
 
Boofus

I'm always amazed at the "grizzeled old salts" who can stick a finger in the air and predict a Cat 5..That goes for the ones at NOAA as well.

I was in Corpus Christi Aug 3rd 1970 when Celia hit us dead center..180mph winds. I was stuck downtown and saw the bay drop when the eye passed over.

NOAA was created RIGHT after Celia cause all we had to go on was a hellish Green sky the morning of 8-3-1970.

Google up Hurricane Celia and learn about a lady you never hear much about 'cause she was so damn bad.
 
Wow, for some reason I figured you would have a few thousand rounds in each of the major calibers...

Might I suggest looking through the numerous threads in the Strategies & Tactics forum for things you may want to have?

Sure hope that one never makes landfall, lot of folks on the Texas coastline.
 
In general, Texas coastal cities are much better organized and prepared for hurricanes than Lousyanna.

Until only a very few hours before landfall, Celia's winds were 90 mph. Then, a hurricane-hunter plane flew a north-south path and called in that the backside winds were up to 120mph or so. When Celia came onshore, the sustained winds were 160 mph, with gusts to 190. Total rainfall of about 8". Celia was rather like Andrew in that she was small-diameter. Because the eye passed to the east of Corpus, the winds from the north blew the water out of CC Bay. Mucho, mucho hull damage to the boats at the T-Heads and L-Head docks. Thank the Lord that the eye didn't come in across North Padre Island!

I spent the night before Celia in the DPS HQ com-center. The only communication with Corpus was via one ham radio guy. I an some other Water Development Board guys were sent down to Port Aransas the next day. Two mobile homes left, total. Lots of free insulation, of course. The houses built on pilings were mostly totals. Lotsa decks with nothing but the kitchen and bathroom piping left. Conn Brown shrimpboat harbor at Aransas pass had boats stacked up four deep.

The disaster relief effort saw locals, Highway Patrol, Highway Department and utility folks from around the state. Red Cross. Corps of Engineers. I don't recall any other feds from outside, to amount to anything. I forget how many thousands of loads of wood from downed trees were hauled out of Corpus and burned.

I mostly ran around doing the red tape and paperwork thing for federal money to reimburse local governmental entities for damages and repairs. My cost estimating background helped me, there, in damage assessment. (I was sorta generous in my estimating. :D ) In those days, the feds didn't give out money to anybody in the private sector, but they did make low-interest loans available.

Art
 
Doh, the suburb where I am will be the hardest hit in such a storm. Over by the Houston Space Center is where all the water pours in if a storm surge hits Galveston. I might have to go visit my bro in Austin for a while. :eek:

Wow, for some reason I figured you would have a few thousand rounds in each of the major calibers...
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I just can't stockpile ammo, whenever I get a case of it, it just evaporates! :neener:
 
ill be goin through rita in a hours time
they say it could possibly b a cat 2 when it hits me here
wont be anythin like in NO for me down here but we shall see.
 
Houston the next New Orleans?
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Because of the weather? Or the New Orleans refugees?

I'm always amazed at the "grizzeled old salts" who can stick a finger in the air and predict a Cat 5
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I can stick a finger in the air and predict which part of the green my ball will land on. When my golfing partners point out the ripples in the pond, I can stick another finger in the air :uhoh:

Regards.
 
Hi Art,
I also lived in Corpus Christi when Hurricane Celia hit. Celia's eye passed directly over our house which was one block away from Mary Carroll High School, near Weber Rd and Padre Island Drive intersection. I remember going outside to check the house during the brief lull of the eye. That was a traumatic experience both during the hurricane and for many days after. I remember seeing a father digging thru garbage cans to feed his family. A neighbor collected all the milk she could from others and stored it in the gas powered refrigerator in our travel trailer. For several days after the storm she used the stove in trailer to warm milk bottles and feed her young baby. I was on my roof patching lost shingles when two strangers appeared. They just climbed up and began helping. Then we went to help someone else put back a fence that had blown over. Our phone never went out and for several days, strangers would knock on our door and ask to use it. Word got around somehow. We expected some extra long distance calls on the next bill but there were no calls that we had not made. Guess everyone had reversed the charges. The house equivalent to ours on the next street over was totally GONE. Only the concrete slab remained. Two blocks down was a subdivision of two story homes. After Celia they were all one story homes!

Never want another Celia!
LB
 
Art / LHB1

AT 59, the internet still blows my mind! Here I find two folks who were in C.C. for Celia! I programmed KZFM on the hill in the 600 Bldg..but had to stay at the old Princess Louis Hotel that had been turned into apartments.

As I mentioned earlier and Art confirmd, seeing the water drop in the bay is a sight I'll never forget..or the taxi blown end over end into O'Neals Imported Cars' show room window!

Stood in the lobby and passed a bottle of Jack Black with a uniformed C.C. cop..no, it wasn't Bob Mudd!

Ray High School / Class of '65

Ya'll take care!
 
Hmmmmm.

Intresting.

Hurricane hits N.Orleans. Evacuees go to Houston Astro-Dome.

Hurricane now threatens to hit Houston. :what:

Sounds like the evacuees jumped out of the pot, and into the fire.

I.G.B.
 
I am watching this one...

I am literally right down the street from the Astrodome with it's thousands of New Olreans evacuees. Last I checked, Houston was dead center in Rita's projected path. I have hundreds of rounds of ammo for most major calibers. I only have about 50 rounds of 12 guage, though. I am getting the BOB loaded up, and making preps. It never hurts to check things out, and be safe, after all. If it gets above a category 2, I am going to plan on getting my wife and myself out of dodge. To Hell with the apartment; our treasures are not tangible. The only problem is if we are told to stay put (one of the downsides to being in medicine) to man the hospitals. My wife is in the first tier, and I am not, so I may end up standing guard over her while in the hospital. I would hate to have to ride out a bad 'cane, but there is no way in Hell I could evacuate without my wife being safe.
 
The mayor of Houston knows the Houston evac plan, and will follow it.

Houston PD and Harris County S.O. are probably better-led agencies than NOPD.

Houston already has multiple contingency plans in effect.

Houston isn't 22 feet below sea level nor below a lake on one side nor below a river on the other.

There are more than two ways in or out of the city of Houston.

Governor Perry doesn't cry on national TV. Ain't gonna happen.

If the hurricane hits Houston, it won't be anything like New Orleans.

Odds are, that'll be George Bush's fault, too.

LawDog
 
Mayhem in Houston? Not even close. Not anything in Texas, even Houston that is the "welfare society" that NO was. Unlike Democrat Gov's, Republicans know how to lead when it matters. All that thievery, rape and murder that went unchallenged for the longest in NO. Well this is Texas, that **** don't fly around here, even in Houston. :neener:
 
Beaucoup,
When Celia hit CC I was working for Coastal States Gas in the Information Technology dept, then called Data Processing. My office was in the Petroleum Tower. I remember after the storm, Nat'l Guardsmen were stationed in the uptown intersections for a couple of hours (morning and afternoon) to stop ALL pedestrian and auto traffic while we threw waterlogged computer reports out the broken windows. They REALLY made a SPLAT when hitting the pavement. Later, someone drove trucks by and loaded up/hauled away the waterlogged junk.

One Celia is Enough!
LB
 
I'd be more worried about Rita hitting close enough to New Orleans that it breaches already weakened levees and floods that city once again.
 
that would be very interesting.

an out-of-state LEO coming to Texas, where the Texas Penal Code specifically does NOT recognize them as peace officers, trying to confiscate firearms from Texans. there is no law in Texas that would give an out-of-state LEO to seize a firearm from a private citizen.

that is the equivalent of a private citizen banging on your door demanding you give up the firearm to them.

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