How does she get away with it?

[bigdipper]

I watched Feinsteins proposal today and was amazed. I counted at least three outright lies. My question is why does on one correct her? Is there no senator or congressmen that would stand up and correct her? What about gun rights groups such as the NRA? Why does no one tell her, and all of congress, that she is flat out wrong on things she says? It just irks me that she, who no doubt has a voice that gets heard, can get away with lies that are then heard by the public who might not be as lucky as us to know the truth.
This link has her address if you have not already seen it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/dianne-feinstein-assault-weapons-ban_n_2541743.html

 

[Ashcons]

Tell a lie enough...

I talked to a guy yesterday who told me that he was cool with ARs, but didn't think people should be able to own .50's because, "They're just too powerful."

I think the big problem is these politicians hear the truth, but don't care about it purposely or through arrogance, dismiss it. The whole anti-gun debate (and many other anti-freedom/pro-government expansion) centers around appeals to emotion - fear. Facts just get in the way of what's important. Protecting you from yourself.

 

[Baba Louie]

Wait just a minute here bigdip. Are you really saying that an elected official, a politician no less, from California, talking about eeeeevil automatic weaponry any kid can buy at any gunshow (gasp) told an untruth???!!???(ohmygodohmygodohmygod)

You must be new to this whole scene eh?

Only three? Are you sure you didnt just, you know, lose count?

Fast & Furious is under investigation. I will cut the deficit in half. I am not a crook. Gulf of Tonkin. Duck hunters are safe, I don't want to take your guns. I did not have sex...

These are only Common Sense policies she wants to bring out to (here's the biggest lie of all), Keep the children safe. Until the next incident.

 

[bigdipper]

im not new to the scene i know that they lie but i cant see why no one at least tries to right her wrong how ever many there are

 

[leapfrog]

I asked the same thing on the nra twitter page and got no response,maybe no one wants to see the old hag cry.

 

[Zombiphobia]

I asked the same thing on the nra twitter page and got no response,maybe no one wants to see the old hag cry.

I do.

 

[Onmilo]

'We don't want to take away peoples guns! We simply want to dry up the supply,,,'
In other words, 'we can't go after your guns by Federal mandate but we can take away the rights of future generations by removing the supply to an ever growing population,,,,' Feinsteins Mandate

 

[mnrivrat]

I guess they figure that the 1st amendment gives them the right to lie with impunity.
Who's going to stop them ? Well the media is the poster boy for the Liars Club of America, and most of its members are politicians who make their living telling lies.
The law perhaps can help keep things straight ? The head of the Dept for Justice is Eric Holder who, if he was interested in justice, would have to arrest himself for his violation of contempt of congress.

The Truth is nothing more than acceptable collaterial damage to thses folks.

 

[ball3006]

She is a dimocrat. Once you understand that, all the rest falls into place.....chris3

 

[creitzel]

I too am getting tired of all of their lies. I don't know what we can do to counteract it, except keep plugging away, trying to educate people with the truth. I wish we had a voice out there in the mainstream media, putting our side out there.

The NRA, kind of counteracts their statements a bit, but how many non-gun owners see their statements? And if the mainstream media do decide to print an NRA statement, they usually are trying to present them as nut-jobs.

 

[leebee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQJHzmB1JuE

Unless these clips are taken out of context....i vote liar!!!

 

[BHP FAN]

the media is complicit. so is everyone that voted for this dim bulb, and her boss.

 

[jamesbeat]

She is using her First Amendment rights to say whatever she wants.
Personally, I don't think our forefathers could possibly have forseen all of the media technology that we have today, so we should make sensible and common sense laws about what the media, politicians etc can say.
What we really need is some form of government censorship on people speaking their minds.
We don't want to stop newscasters or TV shows, just the dangerous politicians....

...hang on a second, that's outrageous and unconstitutional!

Seems like some Amendments are still sacred.
Perhaps the wicked witch of the West should bear that in mind before lying her a** off to damage the parts of the Constitution that she doesn't like.

 

[wingman]

Personally I would like to see a complete background check and mental evaluation on all politicians before they take the oath and 6 year term limits,
but the ruling class feels their above it all.

I believe it was Feinstein once said, "if I could I would come and take the guns from Mr.and Mrs.America", yes sir a true American patriot.

 

[2ifbyC]

Feinstein is no Einstein.

But in her mind, she is telling the truth. It’s called rationalization; the cognitive process of making something seem consistent with or based on reason. It’s a learned process vis-à-vis an inherited one otherwise you would hear “the empress has no clothes” by politicians rather than just by children.

 

[Hapworth]

I watched Feinsteins proposal today and was amazed. I counted at least three outright lies.

Agreeing with you -- but for curiosity's sake, would you list them?

 

[barnbwt]

My question is why does on one correct her?

We correct her. She hasn't "gotten away" with anything. Those days are over. Anyone who cares, or is capable of listening to reason, already knows by now that this issue is being grossly misrepresented to exploit ignorance and emotion. With the massive and pervasive stimulus of news media and social media, there are few true fence sitters. You have the informed/active, and the apathetic/passive. Obviously far more passives than actives. And they will not join either side, unless something happens to force them to take sides. The banners desperately hope that thing is Sandy Hook, and that it jars the ignorant masses from their stupor long enough to blindly stand against the arguments of gunowners and Constitutionalists as the Assault Weapons Ban is rammed through Congress.

The problem is, The Ban appears to have rallied gunowners more than they expected, and the banner's voice is no longer the loudest. This is Feinstein et. al.'s last hurrah. There are no "junior senators" offering to devote their entire careers to gun-grabbing. This is the end of the road (well, at least the paved portion). If we stop them here, what else do they have? What resources? The Brady Campaign was practically dead before this last go-around. Gun ownership (and evil guns) are at record highs and increasing. Gun rights are expanding. The momentum was on our side before Sandy Hook, and I believe it still is (despite what DC has convinced itself of).

The ban can only pass at the expense of the careers of a huge number of politicians, local to national, who have any connection or complicity. If stopped, the ban goes back to the annual crack-pot ritual it was until today. Whatever happens, we are witnessing the death throes of the 20th century gun-control movement. My prediction is the banners will opt for a defensive strategy; passing infringements they so crave in the few places they can get away with it now (like NY), so as to cement what little power they have remaining and avoid total irrelevance.

TCB

It’s called rationalization; the cognitive process of making something seem consistent with or based on reason.

You know, like cramming two puzzle pieces together to make them fit--only with laws

 

[Nanook]

When is she going to retire? She has to be pushing 80. Most people would be glad to be alive and would be taking it easy doing what they like to do.

Not her, she's on a mission to destroy liberty in this country.

Retire, already, wouldja?

 

[Creature]

barnbwt, I sure hope your analysis is correct.

 

[Baba Louie]

bigdipper, I hope you know I was attempting to be ironically facetious sir.

No one from the media will call her/them on it. "Under the Radar" with Fast & Furious; Investigation underway by DOJ which will never see the light of day other than Issa and CBS's Sheryl Attkisson bringing it to light and being sluffed off by the White House. Based on lies and breaking the laws, corroborating with the lawless in fact and deed with lives lost. No one cared.

A few gun owning citizens are outraged, the rest of the populace, neh.

School shootings? President knuckles aside a faux tear or two, the Media goes wild, can't keep saturation levels any higher, but will never put the two together, as their masters desire and dictate.

Lies? A whole slew of lies. Tragedy? A whole lot of that as well. Conspiracy? I'm sure the first is/was, the second an opportune moment based on innocent blood and lives lost due to the govts policy of creating target rich environments while the scheming and the ignorant blame the NRA et al demonizing a "thing" instead of the actual cause.

This is exactly what a few of our elected officials wanted or needed to have happen. Based on Lies and deception, death and destruction, coverup not-with-standing which to date remains unchallenged by the media as it is not their ox being gored. Or so they think.

Disturbed Madmen are still in our midst. Some are in positions of power and they want, need the populace emasculated and compliant.

Why? To what end? Not to make the world safer for the proles, because life is not safe as we know.

 

[pockets]

“the empress has no clothes”

Oh my.........did you have to put that image in my head?
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[12gaugeTim]

So her new proposal bans all guns with just one or more "military characteristic"? That's insane. My grandpas M1 carbine would be banned for having a bayonet lug...

I wish somebody would just straight up call her out on a lie. While she's spouting her crap, just stand up and tell her how wrong she is, and back it up with undeniable facts/stats. I, too, am sick of her defending her legislature with reasons that are just incorrect.

 

[mljdeckard]

I concur entirely with post #18.

She has been corrected for decades. She is speaking to those who listen to her and no one else.

This is it. Lautenberg is 88. She and McCarthy are both......old. Biden is out of direct play. (Unless he runs in 2016, which might seep preposterous, but so was the dem win last year.) When they didn't get a chance to push this idea while they had both houses in 2009, they realized that they can't wait for sentiment, majority, and opportunity to line up correctly. They HAVE to take this shot. Even if it's not a good shot. They know they are too old to wait for a better one.

 

[somerandomguy]

What were the lies? I haven't seen it yet.

 

[Water-Man]

Yawn...