So I just finished my first week of law school and one of the classes I am taking is Constitutional Law, which I had yesterday for the first time. At the end of class I was absolutely elated to hear that we will be discussing the issue of guns next week and will also be reading and discussing the DC v. Heller case. Based on what I'd heard going in, I NEVER thought that would be a topic because Con Law doesn't really focus on individual rights so much as the separation of powers, federalism etc. So in light of that, I was extremely pleasantly surprised. I just have to make sure I don't get too overzealous ook like a psycho. I just thought I'd share my excitement.
How Excited Am I?
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shooting4life
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I pity the fool who takes law classes. Just kidding, keep up the good work and try influence as many people as you can. We can never have enough pro 2nd amend lawyers
Once you learn to really read cases (in your writing classes or in law review where you really need to pick the opinions apart) you won't look at them the same way. Compare Heller next week to Heller after a few good writing assignments. It won't be the same case, regardless of what your prof says about it.
Enjoy law school. You may hate it, but I loved it (I didn't go 'til I was 40). It was a combination of interesting material and all those 20-something women sitting all around me.
Enjoy law school. You may hate it, but I loved it (I didn't go 'til I was 40). It was a combination of interesting material and all those 20-something women sitting all around me.
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I'll be excited when TX DPS finishes processing my CHL and issues it.
bdickens
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Me too. 
Record the class. What school are you attending? So many of us having followed Heller for YEARS would really like to know how academia is copping with this.
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Sandisk has a neat little 1GB and a 2GB MP3 player that will also pick up FM and record.
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Do you get a feel for the professors? Don't be zealous and flunk. (even if you are right)
I am attending the University of Miami. Recording is an honor code violation without permission, and I'd rather not ask, nobody does... but I take good notes and I'll keep you informed.
He can't flunk me for being zealous. My final grade is based solely on a final exam which is graded blindly (he doesn't know its mine). I just don't want to alienate my classmates.
He can't flunk me for being zealous. My final grade is based solely on a final exam which is graded blindly (he doesn't know its mine). I just don't want to alienate my classmates.
bogie
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Translation: "I think I have a chance with one of the girls."
I'll start with the caveat that I went to law school at BYU, not really known for its liberalism, but I found law professors to be pretty even handed. They want to get students discussing cases and learning to apply legal reasoning and logic, not necessarily to take a side. Maybe in a smaller 2L or 3L class, but basic Con Law should be pretty middle of the road. You should be able to make whatever points you want. Just be open and polite. You have the facts, the opinion, and one of the greatest legal writers (Scalia) ever on your side, so you can be pretty confident. Have fun and let us know how it goes.
Sebastian the Ibis
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Who do you have Gudridge or Schnably?
Both are liberals but brilliant enough to realize that Heller just revived a fundamental right and the entire legal process of the civil rights movement will be repeated in real time. I think they are both really excited about it.
Read Lawrence Tribe (Harvard Professor's) law review paper on the 2nd - it is pro-RTKBA. Robin Schard or any of the other reference librarians can get it for you if you. Gudridge co-writes with Tribe quite a bit and it will definitively give you a leg up. It will also help you in Schnably's class too.
Schnably is supremely organized and will be giving you a syllabus shortly with every question he will ask throughout the semester. Use that as a basis for preparing if you have him.
I brought Alan Gura to campus last year and The Federalist Society should be bringing him back this year. Get in with them and you should be able to get in a lunch/dinner with him.
Also, don't be afraid to argue in Con-law, just make sure that you have a case that backs up whatever you say.
Good Luck,
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Both are liberals but brilliant enough to realize that Heller just revived a fundamental right and the entire legal process of the civil rights movement will be repeated in real time. I think they are both really excited about it.
Read Lawrence Tribe (Harvard Professor's) law review paper on the 2nd - it is pro-RTKBA. Robin Schard or any of the other reference librarians can get it for you if you. Gudridge co-writes with Tribe quite a bit and it will definitively give you a leg up. It will also help you in Schnably's class too.
Schnably is supremely organized and will be giving you a syllabus shortly with every question he will ask throughout the semester. Use that as a basis for preparing if you have him.
I brought Alan Gura to campus last year and The Federalist Society should be bringing him back this year. Get in with them and you should be able to get in a lunch/dinner with him.
Also, don't be afraid to argue in Con-law, just make sure that you have a case that backs up whatever you say.
Good Luck,
- U Miami Book Award Winner, 2006
(highest grade in constitutional law)
armedandsafe
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When I was in business, I had a number of lawyers and a couple of judges as clients. One in particular fits this post, as he also taught classes.
"A reasoned argument gets credit, even if the argument is unreasonable."
"An un-reasoned, emotional argument gets struck down, even if it argues the truth."
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It will be interesting to see if the academicians play out as pro-individual rights or whatever the opposite side may be in this case.
Of course, I find it hard to avoid the words "shall not be abridged" (although 4Justices were able to do so!).
I'm another BYU law grad and I cannot believe that a law school holds recording class a violation. Almost all my law professors recorded as a matter of course and tapes were avialable from the school at cost. (Skiing was sometimes more important than class.) You may want to ask for the permission.
Of course, I find it hard to avoid the words "shall not be abridged" (although 4Justices were able to do so!).
I'm another BYU law grad and I cannot believe that a law school holds recording class a violation. Almost all my law professors recorded as a matter of course and tapes were avialable from the school at cost. (Skiing was sometimes more important than class.) You may want to ask for the permission.
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