How important is easy maintance to your gun selection

maintenances depends on what you mean. I've ran 1911's so dirty that the solid carbon buildup gets so heavy it ejects and hits me hard enough to hurt.
I've ran a 9mm AR so dirty that it shot 3' to the left from the flash hider building up.

In the case of the pistol, hand fitting, periodic spring checks and extractor tension (with a scale) were done.
In the case of the 9mm AR, soaking the barrel end in gasoline for a few days was necessary.

But this was every few hundred to thousand round. I've noticed that even the low maintenance models have issues at that range.

I've had more real "jams" in revolvers than auto's. Crimp jump. Cylinder gap seize. It happens.

A Glock will get mad eventually. An AK probably will to. Okay, maybe not an AK.

A Ford 6.0 Diesel engine requires far less maintenance on paper than a GM 350 SB V8. Ask anyone who's owned that 6.0 how that worked out?

I put about 20 minutes into my "finicky guns" (870, SAA, 1911, AR10/9) every few years.

Yea I put about 3 minutes into my G26 and P11 every few years.
It isn't much overall.

Now that said, you are right. After owning a Marlin, I would NOT want a Winchester. I used to love the Winchester's lines. but once I got used to the hump on the bottom of the Marlin the Winchester lost its appeal. Once I had to fix a Winchester 1894 and saw how much less logical it was than the marlin, I decided that hump was a feature. and learned to love it. Now I love Marlin lines, and the Winchester is missing something.

Maintenance had no real part in what I like. Most firearms run fine even if you ignore whats needed. What happens is early wear. But for most people that a non-issue.

An in-spec 1911 will run fine dry and dirty. It will last 100,000 round dry and dirty. It may malfunction from time to time, but who would know? Get it tuned and cared for and it will last 800,000 round and malfunctions about 30 times in that period.

Most "High volume shooters" I know run 50-100 round over an hour, a few times a year.

If that is a problem, your gun is junk. Most will do fine. At the rate an average shooter operates you never have to clean, oil or cool any firearm that runs smokeless powder.
 
1. My ability to shoot it quickly, accurately, repeatedly. (Spoiler - revolvers are out, if not here, then next) (Also, reliability is assumed; unreliable is a no go)
2. Capacity - Said by someone who is not LE, lives in a "good area" and has never needed a single round for SD in over 30 years of carry.
3. Ease of maintenance - And that is assuming I have not missed or omitted a more pertinent factor.
You guessed it, Glock. Sig 365 and 1911's also acceptable.
 
Ease of cleaning never crosses my mind. I have a couple of old Model 94 Winchesters that have never been disassembled and run like clocks. Of course I never drug them through the mud or dunked them in a lake. Lubricate the accessible essentials and be done...
 
After hearing/reading so many horror stories about the early Ruger MK series I hesitate to buy anything earlier than my MK IV. I saw several at my FFLs a couple years ago and talked myself out of buying one. Maybe if the price wasn't as high as a new MK IV I'd take a chance and hopefully learn a thing or two.
Always liked those early Rugers but didn't like all the horror stories about putting them back together. Until last year when I came across a nice Mark 1 bull barrel model in nice shape with a very fair price at the LGS. Decided to take a chance and plan on taking on that job after a few hundred rounds. I heard its not as bad as what you usually hear, there are how-to videos on U-Tube and there is an aftermarket kit available that is supposed to make reassembly easier. So far it has been about 150 rounds and I only swabbed out the bore and wiped down the exterior after shooting. If it turns out to be as hard as some of the horror stories make it out to be I can get some assistance getting it back together and then probably sell it for what it cost me. But I will admit to hesitating on buying it when I considered those maintenance issues.
 
Not much but I have air compressors all over the place. Even a little one designed for a dentist office in my office/reloading room.

Its often much easier to hose everything down and blow everything out and re apply oil, than it is to disassemble and clean each part by hand.
 
Easy maintenance means to me being able to detail strip without a technical reference manual or specialty tools, and availability of quality OEM replacement parts. Routine maintenance/field stripping ease doesn't matter to me and is not part of my purchase decision making.
 
Yes, it's something that I take into account. If a gun I'm considering requires extensive disassembly, lots of screws, or fiddly parts to be dealt with as part of the standard cleaning process, I'll probably look elsewhere for something that I consider to be more efficient. The AR-15 rifle is the most fuss I'm willing to deal with when cleaning a gun, with that messy bolt and carrier that needs scrubbed out, and all the nooks and crannies in the frame design. Fortunately most guns are super easy, almost all modern semi auto pistols can be field stripped in seconds, and are easy to clean. Most manual action rifles don't get very dirty, and just require removing the bolt to brush out the barrel. And with revolvers I very rarely take the side plate off; it's just wiping down the outside and brushing out the barrel/chambers.
 
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It's important to me for guns that I use. I occasionally hunt and I carry every day. I like Glocks around salt water, because they can be detail stripped into a bucket of soapy water in about 2 minutes. 1911s aren't bad either if they have internal extractors- no tools unless you need to take the grip panels off.
 
I haven't based a decision to buy or not on how easy something is to clean but I do appreciate the Ruger Mark IVs for their simplicity. I can clean the earlier pistols but they are irritating to me compared to the Mark IV. My most irritating gun to clean is probably my Marlin 60 but it's also one of my favorite 22s. It's not very complicated but it gives me fits although I would definitely buy it again. But, I don't think anything of taking a 1911 all the way down to grip screw bushings and that's maybe more complicated than a Ruger Mark II.
 
Talking to Larry Nelson yesterday about cleaning my .22 Conversion for better extraction, I wish it were easier to get apart and back together.

ETA
Attacked it today and developed a method. You will be horrified that I cleaned a pistol from the muzzle, but that is what it got.

ETA2.
It did pretty well today, took 13 racks to ULSC 11 rounds. I have some super duper carbon solvent on order.
 
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A couple extra seconds/mins sways your decisions that much? Crazy...

Zero thoughts given on my end.


Maybe for some it’s just a few minutes, but not me. I’ve struggled for hours monkeying around trying to get some guns back together. Yeah, I’m not super mechanical.

Which is why I like Glocks and AR’s.
 
Ease of cleaning has never been a consideration on my part.
I have cleaned guns since I was about 12 years old and am now 68. I rarely clean guns these days...I have people to do that for me.
Retirement has it perks...
I do clean a gun when I first acquire it...just to be more familiar with it. After that, my son does the vast majority of cleaning and maintenance.
 

How important is easy maintance to your gun selection


I suppose ease of maintenance is not much of a factor for me. Heck, I even still have 5 of my SVT-40s and I can recall more than a few posts from people who whinged about how complicated they were to clean & maintain.

O'course, having a good gun vise (or two) sometimes does wonders for taming such "complexity". ;)
 
Easy maintenance is important for my defensive firearms or those that get used often. I also have noticed more malfunctions with revolvers than with my Glock. It's easy to keep spare parts on hand and swap them out long before I suspect they may fail. Keeps things running smoothly.
 
I'm probably not your average gun buyer, but how easy a platform is to maintain, is a huge deciding factor in how I choose guns. A Marlin is 100% an easier platform to maintain than a Winchester lever gun. A glock is supper easy to rapidly disassemble and clean. Does how easy a platform is to care for have any impact on your new acquisitions?
Interesting POV. I can understand it but it is not a factor for me. Maintenance is maintenance. Now I will say, I generally dread having to clean my Garand because it does take a lot longer. I have a very easy cleaning regimen that I follow based on Ryan Cleckner's book. So regular cleaning is very easy.
 
Would it be fair to assume that the OP's question is about guns that are shot frequently or on a regular basis?
If so, that isn't my problem. With no "affordable" range access, my shooting is little and infrequent. What I WILL do is to run a dry patch down the barrels of guns that haven't been shot in a year to clear out any dust or obstruction (never had one). Then I run a lightly oiled patch followed by another dry patch. That is followed up with a lightly oiled rag to wipe the outside down and they are reloaded and returned to the gun cabinet.
 
Would it be fair to assume that the OP's question is about guns that are shot frequently or on a regular basis?
If so, that isn't my problem. With no "affordable" range access, my shooting is little and infrequent. What I WILL do is to run a dry patch down the barrels of guns that haven't been shot in a year to clear out any dust or obstruction (never had one). Then I run a lightly oiled patch followed by another dry patch. That is followed up with a lightly oiled rag to wipe the outside down and they are reloaded and returned to the gun cabinet.
I don't own a gun shot less than monthly.
 
No, but it's been a factor in SELLING several. I got rid of my Remington R51 in part because it was such a struggle to reassemble....added to by the fact that I was only moderately active with it and I had continued FTF's....all the bugs, none of the benefits. On the other hand, I used to rant about the Rugers and have several Mark III's or lower; I finally made myself learn those tricks.
 
I'm probably not your average gun buyer, but how easy a platform is to maintain, is a huge deciding factor in how I choose guns. A Marlin is 100% an easier platform to maintain than a Winchester lever gun. A glock is supper easy to rapidly disassemble and clean. Does how easy a platform is to care for have any impact on your new acquisitions?
Its not a consideration for me. But I do wish my Nylon 66 was as easy as my M-1! I guess that once you have taken a Holly Carburetor apart and put it back together most guns seem pretty simple.
 
Its not a consideration for me. But I do wish my Nylon 66 was as easy as my M-1! I guess that once you have taken a Holly Carburetor apart and put it back together most guns seem pretty simple.
To be specific that nylon 66 is exactly one of the guns my grandfather had that I will never buy.... they are now considered collectable or desirable, but I can break down and clean a 10-22 and have it back together in about 10 minutes.
 
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