How in **** do you put a 22/45 back together?

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Ben Shepherd

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I can't ssem to figure it out. I'm following the book, but no dice.

I can't get it right. The bolt doesn't close under spring pressure, and the hammer has no spring pressure. I can feel the sear release, but no hammer fall. The bolt will cycle by hand, but not under spring pressure.

Did I mention that the pictures and description in the manual are a bit vauge? Two hours of frustration so far.

Any pointers?
 
Do you know anyone nearby that has one? Seriously I'm not making a joke. My 22/45 almost drove me INSANE the first time I re-assembled and I'm really pretty mechanically adept.

The biggest trick is getting the hammer rod into the little cup at the top of the hammer spring. You often have to hold the gun at a specific angle (and I had to use a dental pick as a "hook" to pull the rod down to the correct place).

This set of instructions is for a MKII but in terms of field stripping it's pretty much identical.
http://www.wiztechs.com/knightsrealm/guns/22-45/fieldstrip/field_strip.htm
 
The Mk II

was designed by a pit fiend with his own 3 hands. It is put together like one of those puzzles where you have to get a horseshoe through a doughnut hole. Youy really have to hold the gun just right to get all the parts back together.

I just use a hammer
 
You will get it.

The gun talk link is great and helped me the first time. And, as stated earlier, you have to follow the manual EXACTLY. It the manual says stand up and cough twice, you must do that step.

Some keys to watch for are:

Make sure the hammer is in the proper location as per manual.
Make sure the mag is in when it is suppose to be and out went is should be out.
Make sure the little swinging tab in the back of the grip is in the proper spot.

Good luck.
 
Tell you guys one thing-

WHEN I get the little bugger back together, I'll have found a use for CLP, that's for sure.

I'll NEVER take the little bugger apart again if it can be avoided.:banghead:
 
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"I just use a hammer"

+1! Seriously, I "lost my religion" a couple of times while trying to reassemble my MKII. Then I took a hammer to it. Now it fits, although I still may need the hammer sometimes.
 
The first time I disassembled mine, it took quite some time, and a bit of cursing and a rubber mallet to get it back together.

I stopped the cursing to grab a beer and calm myself because my wife was upstairs -- she didn't think I should be cursing and hammering while cleaning a handgun.;)

She commented that I never got excited while cleaning the Glock....
 
Heh. Guys at the local gun shop have told me many stories of people bringing their new 22/45 back in to be reassembled.

Me, I'm using mine as an experiment. I spray it with CLP and run a bore snake through it, but that's it. So far I've had no problems with it.
 
I had a problem with mine at first. (A MK III) As someone else said follow the directions to the letter. There is a reason for every step.

Having said that, I found the real trick (for me) was that the hammer doesn't just "fall" into place. I learned to take a pencil and push it into the proper position. Since then I haven't had any trouble.
 
It's like anything else.....a bit of time to learn the process and then it becomes easier.

Here is the routine:

Mag in……pull trigger……remove Mag
Swing Latch out…down…remove
Mag in….muzzle upwards….pull trigger…..bolt falls out
Separate Frame and Barrel Assy-use a rubber mallet, if necessary.
Clean it up.
Hammer flat and horizontal….reassemble barrel and frame-use a rubber mallet, if necessary.
Hammer still flat….insert bolt
Mag in….muzzle down….pull trigger….hammer falls forward-if it doesn't on it's own, reach in there with a pencil and push it forward.
Muzzle still down, Mag out….insert bolt stop….if it doesn't go in all the way, make sure the barrel is fully to the rear of the frame.
Muzzle up….engage hammer strut….you should feel some spring tension.......latch and test fire.

Easy....3 hours and you're done. :D
 
Thanks for the help guys. I used to build engines and transmissions for road racing and drag racing. Never had one go kaboom. My family is now on the fourth generation as professional mechanics. I even tested high on my high scool aptitude tests for "spacial relationships". The test and counselor tried to steer me towards a mechanical engineering job of some sort.

I have NEVER had a firearm fight me like this. Glad to see it apparently isn't just me.

I'll go home now, hold my tounge just right, and see if I can get it.
 
Normally I'm a dedicated wheel gun guy. And a dedicated ruger fan at that.

But since the wife took over the old 3 screw single six, I've been without a 22 handgun. This 22/45 came to me on a good deal. So I thought- Cool, I've got a 22 again, and it's a ruger.

So what's it do? Run out and remind me why I'm a big fan of the rotating cylinder type handguns.

AND it got me in trouble with the wife. Not over the purchase price mind you. It seems the time I spent trying to put it together interfered with SWMBOs plans for the evening. Something or other about quality time together for us to talk and bond...........
 
Been there, but..

...

I had the same deal, with my wife's new Sig P232 SL 380, after being spoiled by my Px4 and my other Sigs, in the ease and simplicity of breakdown and reassembly.

Following the books instructions was difficult, as it required many different methods of application to remove the slide, quite the opposite of my other guns, along with carefully removing the slide forward and over the long barrel and the long slide-return-spring, that has a slightly smaller radius at the back and wider at the front, that if the book had not specified that, I would have put it back together wrong. But thru careful inspection of the 2 ends of its long spring, they were right.

But it was a uneasy feeling when I "finally" got it disassembled, and "finally" got it back together, and it works fine.

My strong suggestion to you is, once you do get it back together, take it apart and put it back together the "few times" it will take to unlock the little "finner muscle motors-skills" that this, your, new gun requires and, after some 5-breakdowns and reassembly, it will look, and feel, like no big deal.

You don't want it to wear out prematurely thru lack of inspections or cleaning and fresh lubrication's, as from what I have constantly seen, after any of my guns go thru an avg. of 200/250 rounds each at the range, they're almost dried out, and you don't want to run it dry, as that will put wear and tear on your gun real fast.


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AND it got me in trouble with the wife. Not over the purchase price mind you. It seems the time I spent trying to put it together interfered with SWMBOs plans for the evening. Something or other about quality time together for us to talk and bond...........

Dude, I know your wife. You've got no room to complain about anything. We've got guys on this board complaining because their wives hate guns and are voting for Obama. Your biggest problem is that yours likes expensive Sigs. :p
 
There's a neat device out there, sold by Majestic arms. It replaces the pin that goes through the receiver and the bolt with one you just can unscrew with an Allen wrench (the hammer is replaced, too). It costs about $50.00 and might have to be installed by a Smith, but it prevents you to become an alcoholic or a painkiller addict!

Don't know why the Rugers don't equip their Mk's with it. The problem is known since 1948!!! $50.00 more for an otherwise affordable .22 wouldn't be that bad (I'm sure they could make it even cheaper because of the quantities needed).
 
Correia, not complaining about the Mrs. really. I was just caught off gaurd.

See, her normal reaction to a new gun is: "When do I get to shoot it?"

This time she wanted my undivided attention. Seems I found that out a little late. Bad me. Going to cost me a new bow she's been wanting.

Anyway-

Thanks guys, the moral support is appreciated. I'll try all the hints you've given me, and report back in a couple days. It's going to be that long due to my work schedule before I'll have time to try again.
 
Don't know why the Rugers don't equip their Mk's with it. The problem is known since 1948!!! $50.00 more for an otherwise affordable .22 wouldn't be that bad (I'm sure they could make it even cheaper because of the quantities needed).

No decent American citizen needs that gadget. I think Bill Ruger said that.
 
I think I broke my MKI trying to get it back together. As soon as I take it to a Smith, I'll hopefully be able to get it running again.

Like others have said, never again...
 
You can email me or go to Guntalk-Online and I'll talk you through it. Here's a link for reassembling a field strip (with pictures)

http://www.guntalk-online.com/fsprocedures.htm

I've talked many through this, some so frustrated they wanted to smash their pistols with a hammer. Once you get it, the reassembly isn't so bad. Just don't force anything. You likely have the hammer partially cocked and the mainspring housing keeps popping out when you're trying to close it. Got to push that hammer forward manually, and ensure the hammer strut is on the mainspring cap.

The picture below is a link too.

Hope this helps.

R,
Bullseye

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Me, I'm using mine as an experiment. I spray it with CLP and run a bore snake through it, but that's it. So far I've had no problems with it.

+1

That's what I do for all my 22s. Little bit of CLP and run a bore snake through'em. I've done some action work on my 10/22. so it takes quite a bit of gunk built up in the reciever to make it not work properly.


I read an article by the founder of Clarke barrels a while back (I lost the link) that said cleaning guns does more damage than shooting them. Cleaning ruins your barrel life. So, ever since then I've been pretty conservative on my cleaning of firearms. If it's easy to breakdown, like my CZ 75b I'll take it apart and clean it up a bit, but if it's that dag gum MkII I'll dissasemble it after a thousand or so rounds.


My MkII was the first pistol I ever purchased. The reassembly ALMOST turned me against handguns. What a PITA.
 
How in **** do you put a 22/45

I've owned a 22/45 for years and had all the usual problems reassembling it after cleaning. After enough practice, it was no big deal. But a couple years ago I suddenly found I couldn't get the pistol put back together. I followed the instructions suggested here and still couldn't get it done. Finally I sent to <majesticarms.com> for their "Speed Strip." A simple $35 to $40 replacement job ends all the reassembly problems. Life is too short to waste it screwing around with overly complicated machinery.
 
I had a Mk 1 I guess it was many years ago. The first time I took it apart I thought I was going to have to send it to Ruger, but I finally got it back together. You have to hold your mouth just right and the moon has to be in the proper quadrant etc. :scrutiny:
 
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