How long will the police keep my weapon?

[PinnedAndRecessed]

Dion. That's unbelievable! I mean, you got your stuff back and all, but it's like they were using the episode as an opportunity to investigate you , the victim.

 

[Deanimator]

It's reliable, it's accurate, and if I have to shoot someone, I'd rather lose my $105.00 Hi-Point than my $650.00 Glock.

Then why HAVE the $650.00 Glock???

If somebody, on or off the public payroll, tries to steal my property, I have legal ways of making their life a veil of tears. And if you don't think the BATFE won't go after a cop, there are several Illinois State Troopers who can set you straight...

 

[Deanimator]

(A while back I said much the same and got a rather nasty reply from a guy who carried a super custom pistol worth (he said) $3500. He ranted that no matter what some $*&%# cop said, he would never drop HIS gun and he would shoot it out with the police before allowing HIS gun to get a scratch on it. Some folks are either stupid or plain nuts. Maybe his heirs will get the gun back.)

Barring unlawful use of lethal force on the part of the cop there's no need to shoot. I'd just set the gun on the ground carefully. If somebody damages my property, they're entitled to the full and undivided attention of my attorney, who owes me a lot of favors. And don't forget, the BATFE don't much care whom they torment. Civilian or cop, it's all the same to them. If I thought somebody was trying to use a criminal case as an excuse to steal my gun, I wouldn't hesitate to drop a dime on them to the BATFE.

 

[Dionysusigma]

PinnedAndRecessed: Dion. That's unbelievable! I mean, you got your stuff back and all, but it's like they were using the episode as an opportunity to investigate you, the victim.

I guess it's CYA on their part. Every time you fill out a 4473, it's a preemptive check, so it's not like it's the first time it's ever happened to me (or anyone else on this forum). Doesn't bother me anymore... *shrug*

 

[PinnedAndRecessed]

Doesn't bother me anymore

There's a principle of law IIRC known as presumption of innocence. Unless they have reasonable suspicion what right do they have to investigate you, the victim?

 

[Dionysusigma]

In regards to the background check that the Property Room did, or 4473s?

Zeitgeist, I guess.

 

[PinnedAndRecessed]

I said,

Unless they have reasonable suspicion what right do they have to investigate you, the victim?

You said,

In regards to the background check that the Property Room did, or 4473s?

This is to what I referred:

as I was given back my gun a couple days later after they ran my info through the system to make sure I hadn't done anything wrong since getting it over a year ago.

That's bull.

 

[buzz_knox]

There's a principle of law IIRC known as presumption of innocence. Unless they have reasonable suspicion what right do they have to investigate you, the victim?

It may suck, but there likely isn't anything one can do about it. A court would likely find that public policy was in the interest of doing the search and given 1) you have no expectation of privacy in terms of the records within the system when said records are being reviewed by the police themselves for the purposes of (possibly) preventing a crime and 2) it was of no cost to you. The court would probably find your rights weren't violated and it was within the scope of the department's jurisdiction.

And victims get investigated all the time. It's how the cops determine who is/is not an actual victim.

Presumption of innocence, by the way, applies to court proceedings and the like. It doesn't apply to police activities per se.