There's been a lot of talk about Glocks lately, mainly about their reliability and such. I personally am a fan of the Glock, and I've read in their Annual magazine about a guy shooting 12,500 rounds through a G37, without ever cleaning it, while throwing it in sand, dirt, mud, snow, and immersing it in saltwater for an extended period of time. It never failed. So I was wondering, if you own a Glock (any kind), or at least have even fired one, how many times has it failed to shoot?
How many times has your Glock failed?
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My Academy-issued Glock 22 had many fail-to-feed issues with Federal American Eagle 180gr FMJ, so I voted "5 or more".
Many of the other Glocks on the range had the same problem. I dunno why, but the rounds would "stick" to the feed ramp from time to time.
One of those Glocks also had the rear frame rails break loose of the frame. The pistol did keep working, though. The point-of-impact was shifted about 12" left at seven yards, but it would still shoot.
Also, I just witnessed a mini-kaboom of a Glock 22 yesterday at the range. The round fired and blew the magazine out of the magazine well. I laughed, thinking the mag catch broke.
The shooter tells me "something just hit my thumb". We look at his hands and the tips of his thumbs were scorched. We found one badly bulged .40 case amongst the spent brass. Pistol was otherwise undamaged. I will concede, however, that he was shooting handloads that were given to him by his department armorer.
They aren't what their reputation would have them be. But they are good pistols. No better than the others, though.
Many of the other Glocks on the range had the same problem. I dunno why, but the rounds would "stick" to the feed ramp from time to time.
One of those Glocks also had the rear frame rails break loose of the frame. The pistol did keep working, though. The point-of-impact was shifted about 12" left at seven yards, but it would still shoot.
Also, I just witnessed a mini-kaboom of a Glock 22 yesterday at the range. The round fired and blew the magazine out of the magazine well. I laughed, thinking the mag catch broke.
The shooter tells me "something just hit my thumb". We look at his hands and the tips of his thumbs were scorched. We found one badly bulged .40 case amongst the spent brass. Pistol was otherwise undamaged. I will concede, however, that he was shooting handloads that were given to him by his department armorer.
They aren't what their reputation would have them be. But they are good pistols. No better than the others, though.
I carried a GLOCK 22 through basic, several firearms instructor schools, and a lot of in house training. I estimate that I fired 8,000-9,000 through that gun and all without any type of failure. I later went to a department that did not allow the .40S&W caliber and there I carried a GLOCK 19, again without any problems. I also have shot several thousand rounds through my GLOCK 27, 35 and 17, all without any failures. I have shot all sorts of ammo both FMJ, JHP and even lead, all without a problem. Based on my own experience, I am of the firm belief that GLOCKs are the most reliable semi-auto handgun on the market today, at least among the brands I have shot. I have seen a lot of problems with H&Ks, some with SIGs, some with S&Ws, none with Berettas and none with GLOCKs. Actually I did see one problem with a GLOCK and that was the front sight falling off.
boldkharma
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I've had my Glock 19 for about 20 years. When new it had some problems with doubling and would fail to fire the next round after that. It was a manufacturing defect and was fixed and worked reliably for several years afterwards. Then I had it "upgraded" for free by a factory rep. when they changed to stainless parts and the problem reappeared. I then took it to a Glock specialist and it was fixed again and has worked reliably since.
I had 1 FTF and FTE in both a G19 and G17 with Wolf ammo. Other than that zippo.
I saw a weapons instructor for a metro-Atlanta police department have several jams of one sort or another on his Glock (22 or 23) a couple years ago. They all involved Wolf ammo.
He was disgusted, and said he'd never had a jam with any of his Glocks before. He was testing Wolf ammo because alot of his "more frugal" officers were asking to carry it on duty.
I guess you know what his answer was...
-David
I saw a weapons instructor for a metro-Atlanta police department have several jams of one sort or another on his Glock (22 or 23) a couple years ago. They all involved Wolf ammo.
He was disgusted, and said he'd never had a jam with any of his Glocks before. He was testing Wolf ammo because alot of his "more frugal" officers were asking to carry it on duty.
I guess you know what his answer was...
-David
I had the same problems as Steve C. Almost word-for-word.
My old G19 came from the factory screwed up. It was eventually fixed.
If one is really interested, they could go to the NYPD website and see the problems NYPD had with their 26,000 G19's.
My old G19 came from the factory screwed up. It was eventually fixed.
If one is really interested, they could go to the NYPD website and see the problems NYPD had with their 26,000 G19's.
armoredman
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I have never had a single failure in any Grock I have ever owned. Of course, I have never owned one...
I have had several failures with G-17 and 19s on the Dept range, but in all fairness, these pistols are beat to death with an average of 1000 rounds fired through them a week.
I have had several failures with G-17 and 19s on the Dept range, but in all fairness, these pistols are beat to death with an average of 1000 rounds fired through them a week.
I personally have had 0 issues with my G19. As for the NYPD issues, or frame rails, etc. any issues that have come up, Glock has been quick to fix and taken care of them.
CajunBass
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Maybe I'm just playing with words here, but is a jam necessarly a "failure?" To me a failure would be when the gun broke to a point that it couldn't be used. There are a number of reasons a gun might jam that may or may not be a gun failure.
(Yes, I realize that if it happens when you're being shot at, those things don't matter, and I don't have a Glock, so I don't have a dog in this fight.)
(Yes, I realize that if it happens when you're being shot at, those things don't matter, and I don't have a Glock, so I don't have a dog in this fight.)
My G34 was my first pistol. I experienced a handful of failures to eject in the first 200 rounds. They cleared up with no alteration to the gun/mags/ammo. I then experienced an FTE the first time I shot the gun weak hand only (which was, incidentally, the first time I'd fired any gun weak hand only).
The gun has subsequently digested over 14,000 rounds without any failure of any kind. As a result, I strongly suspect the FTEs were user-induced.
The gun has subsequently digested over 14,000 rounds without any failure of any kind. As a result, I strongly suspect the FTEs were user-induced.
I don't have one, personally. The ones I have shot went bang everytime, so I voted never. I've probably put in the neighborhood of 500-650 through various glocks.
I have over 20,000 rounds through my G26 now.
It has broken once. The takedown spring broke. However, the gun continued to fire and I did not realize it was broken until I went to dryfire it and racked the slide by hand -- whereupon the slide sproinged forward and landed in the mud at my feet.
Anything mechanical can fail.
pax
It has broken once. The takedown spring broke. However, the gun continued to fire and I did not realize it was broken until I went to dryfire it and racked the slide by hand -- whereupon the slide sproinged forward and landed in the mud at my feet.
Anything mechanical can fail.
pax
Never had a Glock failure, except ones induced by users FWIW.
With the large number of guns Glocks puts out, there will be lemons out there.
With the large number of guns Glocks puts out, there will be lemons out there.
Had some solid copper truncated cone ammo that would reliably jam a G19 or G17. It ran fine in any other 9mm.
fastbolt
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Well, if you want to include the pistols failing to function when adversely affected by shooter & ammunition related factors, as well as parts wear/breakage/failure ... then I'd have to say that I've seen some problems occur with a number of Glock pistols (including my own) ... just as I have with most other manufacturers pistols over time.
Just the other day a fellow from another agency experienced his G22 extractor breaking, causing repeated failures to extract/eject.
I had a failure to feed with a new G27 magazine the other day. May not have been related, but when I was taking the magazines apart for cleaning I noticed a lot of 'flashing' sticking out (inward) on the inside front & one side from the molding process. The failure to feed could've easily been caused by a momentary slip of my wrist, though, or was just one of those occasional 'sometimes' things that can happen when breaking in new equipment (magazine). The ironic thing is that the new magazine was replacing one which had started to exhibit feeding failures I suspected might've been caused by feed lips which had become slightly out-of-spec.
Seen other broken extractors, broken guide rods, deformed guide rod lips (G26), weakened recoil & magazine springs, cracked channel liners, cracked magazine bodies, slide stop lever springs, 'revised' magazine followers which corrected feeding issues ... the assorted sorts of things you might reasonably expect to sometimes see over enough time and normal service use when you see a reasonable number of pistols used ...
Glocks are fine pistols. I enjoy mine and have confidence in them ... as I do with several other fine pistols made by other manufacturers, as well.
Pistols are machines. Proper use, maintenance, and periodic examination can help maximize their useful service life ... while improper maintenance & modification, abuse and neglect can create the potential for problems.
Just the other day a fellow from another agency experienced his G22 extractor breaking, causing repeated failures to extract/eject.
I had a failure to feed with a new G27 magazine the other day. May not have been related, but when I was taking the magazines apart for cleaning I noticed a lot of 'flashing' sticking out (inward) on the inside front & one side from the molding process. The failure to feed could've easily been caused by a momentary slip of my wrist, though, or was just one of those occasional 'sometimes' things that can happen when breaking in new equipment (magazine). The ironic thing is that the new magazine was replacing one which had started to exhibit feeding failures I suspected might've been caused by feed lips which had become slightly out-of-spec.
Seen other broken extractors, broken guide rods, deformed guide rod lips (G26), weakened recoil & magazine springs, cracked channel liners, cracked magazine bodies, slide stop lever springs, 'revised' magazine followers which corrected feeding issues ... the assorted sorts of things you might reasonably expect to sometimes see over enough time and normal service use when you see a reasonable number of pistols used ...
Glocks are fine pistols. I enjoy mine and have confidence in them ... as I do with several other fine pistols made by other manufacturers, as well.
Pistols are machines. Proper use, maintenance, and periodic examination can help maximize their useful service life ... while improper maintenance & modification, abuse and neglect can create the potential for problems.
I have a first generation G17 which malfunctioned once when I was testing to determine the lightest load that would function it. Period.
G26
Two years old. Carried daily, shot weekly. Lots of rain/humidity. 7,000 rounds. No malfs.
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Two years old. Carried daily, shot weekly. Lots of rain/humidity. 7,000 rounds. No malfs.
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I have owned the following:
Glock 22 .....did not work with S&B ammo, light hits on primer. Worked with everything else however.
Glock 23- 100%
Glock 30 - 100%
Glock 26 - 100%
Glock 19 -100%
Glock 19 - haven't yet fired it, coming up on monday.
Glock 17 - 100%
Glock 17 - 100%
My experience with Glocks is that they are boringly reliable.
I didn't vote because saying that I had 1 out of 8 guns that had light hits with one kind of ammo is kind of inaccurate. It failed more than a dozen times with that ammo, but the other 7 never failed and I believe the light hits were an ammo problem, not a gun problem, but for me to put on your poll that it failed that many times would be a poor reflection of my experience.
Glock 22 .....did not work with S&B ammo, light hits on primer. Worked with everything else however.
Glock 23- 100%
Glock 30 - 100%
Glock 26 - 100%
Glock 19 -100%
Glock 19 - haven't yet fired it, coming up on monday.
Glock 17 - 100%
Glock 17 - 100%
My experience with Glocks is that they are boringly reliable.
I didn't vote because saying that I had 1 out of 8 guns that had light hits with one kind of ammo is kind of inaccurate. It failed more than a dozen times with that ammo, but the other 7 never failed and I believe the light hits were an ammo problem, not a gun problem, but for me to put on your poll that it failed that many times would be a poor reflection of my experience.
I have owned several Glocks over the years (17, 19, 21, and 23). I have never had any type of jam and always went bang when the trigger was pulled.
Ammo was always factory, no reloads. American Eagle, WWB, PMC, some CCI Blazers, GoldDots, Hydra-shocks, and Cor-Bon 9mm +p's.
I currently own a 19 and 21. (19 for carry, 21 for in-house)
The Glocks will always be the "go-to" handguns. I also own a Kimber 1911 but that is mostly a range queen (mostly because if the rear target sights) and a very enjoyable range queen at that. The Kimber has not complained yet or shown any signs of jealousy to the Glocks.
Ammo was always factory, no reloads. American Eagle, WWB, PMC, some CCI Blazers, GoldDots, Hydra-shocks, and Cor-Bon 9mm +p's.
I currently own a 19 and 21. (19 for carry, 21 for in-house)
The Glocks will always be the "go-to" handguns. I also own a Kimber 1911 but that is mostly a range queen (mostly because if the rear target sights) and a very enjoyable range queen at that. The Kimber has not complained yet or shown any signs of jealousy to the Glocks.
I have 2 Glocks currently, one 34 and one 26.
THe 34 has had 1 failure, it was a Failure to fire, not hte guns fauly, it was a non case gagued reload that didn't allow the gun to go completely into battery. Other then that the gun has shot 10"s of thousands of rounds with a minium of maintiance. I shoot IPSC and steel matches with it on a regular basis, and it keep chugging along!
The 26 has been 100%, one 1000 rounds or so through it since I bought it, but it's been perfect.
I owned 2 Glock 17's prior to getting the G34 and both of them were 100% in many thousands of rounds through each of them
THe 34 has had 1 failure, it was a Failure to fire, not hte guns fauly, it was a non case gagued reload that didn't allow the gun to go completely into battery. Other then that the gun has shot 10"s of thousands of rounds with a minium of maintiance. I shoot IPSC and steel matches with it on a regular basis, and it keep chugging along!
The 26 has been 100%, one 1000 rounds or so through it since I bought it, but it's been perfect.
I owned 2 Glock 17's prior to getting the G34 and both of them were 100% in many thousands of rounds through each of them
My 9mm Glock 26....3 or 4 times per 1,000 rounds....
My .45 acp Glock 21....0 times (1,500 rounds)
My .45 acp Glock 21....0 times (1,500 rounds)
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