How to make the four rules stick...... ?

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Drjones, yes, there is. What trainers often do is create a reference point for the index finger. This is often done with skateboard tape.

"Hey, my finger hurts."
"You're doing it right then!"

Rule #3, the Golden Rule, is the most critical rule of them all as in some scenarios, counter-ambush, team tactics, et al, a #2 violation cannot be avoided. Train hard, mopar!!!

Your reply confuses me.

There IS something wrong with teaching a newbie that the trigger is "bad"?

And the scenario you describe doesn't make sense; inflicting pain when it is being done right? :scrutiny: :confused:
 
I dont handle the gun enough to get the practice I really want.
In that case, get more handling experience. If it is safe to do so with a real handgun, carry it around the house in your hand while home. When you get up to go to the fridge, tote the gun. Bathroom, bedroom, back to living room, carry the gun in your hand. You can even get in some dry firing practice while watching TV. If it is not practical with a real handgun, buy an airsoft, bb gun or even water pistol.

After a while, it becomes second nature.
 
P95CARRY, I don't know if this helps but I'll relate this as it left quite an impresion on me at the time.

School assy in sixth grade. Jackson county sherrif depty. there for a general talk. He takes out his service revolver (357 s&w) opens the cylinder and turns the gun so all of the rounds drop out on the floor. Next he asks " okay, how many of you think this gun is not loaded? We had all seen him unload it, so my hand is in the air with about everybody elses. Well guess what, that's right turns out there was one round left in that gun. When unloading he had left his thumb over one of the rounds, dropped the others then quickly swung the cylinder back closed. It sure looked like he had unloaded that gun! and boy was I suprised when he showed us the round in that "unloaded gun":eek: This object lesson in checking every gun your self, no matter what, has really stayed with me. Just thought I would share...
 
Are we talking about Atticus Finch here, from I]To Kill a Mockingbird[/I] ? I recall his shooting a rabid dog, but I don't recall any firearms safety lessons he teaches in the novel.
 
S_O_Laban .........

Thx for your anecdote ... in fact that would (and should) have been a salutary demonstration for everyone that day!! Somewhat highlights the total need to ''never assume'' ..... apart that is from ''assume always loaded''!

I guess in my opening post I was thinking more of ''mechanical'' shock tactics but .. I am all for any means to make the rules stick in people's minds. Never know ... it might just prevent a tragedy or two.
 
I was wondering if any one else has this problem.
I handle semi-autos correctly almost by reflex but have
to watch myself with revolvers.


DH
 
I need to know.

Being new to the forum, PLEASE let me know what the "four rules" are.

Thanks so much,
papaone:confused: :confused:
 
Mike's 4 rules (edited normal rules)

1. The gun is loaded until you verify it is otherwise (no mag, no round in chamber, nada), as soon as you put it down it is loaded again. Repeat as necessary.
2. Dont point your gun at anything you dont want shot and destroyed.
3. Know your target and what is behind it, around it, etc. (ricochets, etc)
4. Dont put your finger on the trigger until ready to shoot. Period. (I have trouble with this one, as I am new to firearms. Unloaded ones get me more than I would like to admit. Its a newbie thing, it happens. Just dont let it happen with unintended consequences. Anyone who tells you that they havent done it is lying thru their teeth [or tooth...].)
 
Pa,

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you do want want to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until the sights are on target and you are willing to shoot.
4. Identify your target and what is behind it.

Rule #3 is the "Golden Rule."

Drjones, yes, there is something very, very wrong with teaching a newbie that his finger belongs on the trigger like some movie poster! The skateboard tape is for indexing the trigger finger. It will hurt at the end of the day.
 
$$$

I tried everything I knew with my son when he was small. He would do well for awhile then slip up with Rule #2.

Finally, I thought about the money his grand daddy was always giving him to buy toys. I informed him that everytime I saw the muzzle in an unsafe direction it would cost him $5. $15 later he was cured! To this day he is absolutely one of the safest people I know around a firearm.

One of the rewarding things afterward was when he would see an adult at the range break a rule and he would look at me and role his eyes!

He's now 26 and a helicopter flight paramedic.

Geez, I'm getting old!
 
El Tej' ....... not trying to be pedantic but .. whilst you give rule ##3 the priority status .. ya know I reckon this has it for me ...
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you do not want to destroy.
I honestly think this is the one that if never broken all but guarantees no harm to anyone or anything ..... so many NG's that led to harm would have been incidental if committed with this rule paramount.

I may be splitting hairs .. but anyways .. all four are best way to go.:)
 
You completely misunderstand me:

I asked if there is anything wrong with teaching newbies that the trigger is BAD, as in NOT MEANT TO BE TOUCHED, in an effort to help them learn to keep their fingers OFF the trigger at ALL times. :)
 
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