Cannot fine a documented case of Turk ammo blowing up a Hakim
I am not sure either the Ljungmann or the Hakim could be called a main battle rifle. The Swedes never fought any battles with theirs, and all reports indicate the Egyptians didn't either.
The Suez Crisis, also known as the Suez War, Suez Campaign or Kadesh Operation was a 1956 war fought on Egyptian territory. The conflict pitted Egypt against an alliance between France, the United Kingdom and Israel. The alliance between the two European nations and Israel was largely one of convenience; the European nations had economic and trading interests in the Suez Canal, while Israel had a pressing need to open the canal for Israeli shipping. By the conclusion of the war, only Israel enjoyed significant gains.
Whats your definition of a Main Battle Rifle? Does that mean the M1 Garand wasn't a main battle rifle until sometime after December 7th, 1941? It doesn't make sense.
Where is the evidence?
i was shooting (i think) turkish 8mm comes in the bandoliers, brass cased from AIM or SOG. the shells get stuck in my chamber also the primers blow completley out.
some one told me to only fire the turk(?) i have in bolt actions. so what would be acceptable ammo for the hakim, yugo,german, etc. ???
thanks
My Hakim Blew Up Today!
Well, not quite that bad, but almost. I was shooting the soft point 8mm Igman ammo from Aim
Surplus.
It blew the mag bottom off and not sure if the follower blew out the top or bottom. The
follower was about 10 feet behind me and the mag bottom was 5 feet in front of me. The spring
was no where to be found. I have a powder burn and abrasion with several pin holes on my left
arm from the mag blowing out and a few tiny pin holes on my forehead above my right eye from
the top blowing out. Missed my eye thank God. I am not sure what happened. I had two rounds.
One in the chamber and one in the mag. About a half dozen shots just before this had no
problems and the rifle was shooting accurately. Just after it happened the chamber was
partially open and at short glance I could see brass but did not look inside very close. I
tried to open the action to eject any brass and find out what happened but when I pushed the
cover closed so I could then pull it back with the bolt to eject any brass or round the action
just stayed stuck closed.
So until I have time to take the rifle apart I will not be able to try and figure out what
happened. I could not find any brass on the ground, so not sure if the first shell ejected or
if it stayed with the catastrophic failure. The brass I saw may or may not be the second round.
The receiver, wood, barrel, and the short glance I had of the inside all seem to look ok at
this point. The mag looks ok other than being disassembled and should go back together if I
find the missing follower spring. Buuuut I may just be afraid to ever shoot this one again!
Sounds a lot like the descriptions I have read of guns blowing out mags with Turkish ammo. Add
Igman to that list of "not in my Hakim" ammo.
John
I had a Kb with a friend's 8mm Hakim a few years back. He was having some feeding problems so he handed the rifle off to me to examine. I loaded up 10 rounds and slof fired from the hip, watching "into" the action (don't worry, we were the only dumba$$es at the range durring the snowstorm! ).
Anyway, all was going normal...."pop..pop..pop..BOOM!" and the snow under the rifle turned black as smoke curled up from under the gun. Curiously, from the top side, nothing looked out of place.....flipped the rifle over to figure out the source of all the smoke & black soot at my feet....and the bottom of the mag was blown out like one of those "El Explodo" cigars! Little bits of brass...little bits of "mag guts", but everything else was fine!
Those Hakims are built like a brick $hithouse!!!