Human shields gather in Iraq

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Anti-war activists gather in Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Jan. 13 — With tens of thousands of U.S. troops mobilizing for a possible invasion, waves of anti-war activists have descended on Baghdad in recent days to plead for a peaceful solution to the showdown between the Bush administration and President Saddam Hussein’s government.
 
Awww, for old time's sake, let's have Hanoi Jane right up front. Besides, Sean Penn's nose gives our infra-red sensors an unfair advantage.
 
Chris Rhines,

Not real keen on the whole reasoning behind our Short Victorious War, but you have to admit that these folks are engaging in what looks like a prime Natural Selection Opportunity, here...

Just because I don't think a train should come down a particular set of tracks doesn't mean I'm going to step in front of the locomotive, y'know? ;)
 
Too bad all of them couldn't go over there and shield Iraq! What would there expression be when the missles started dropping in? :what:
 
Tamara -

Oh, don't get me wrong, most of these folks on the majoritarian collectivist side of the anti-war movement are ten kinds of stupid. Still, you have to give them some respect for being willing to lay their lives on the line. Doesn't make them smart, and it really doesn't make them immune to the whims of Dr. Darwin.

It is still interesting to ponder, though, how this might play out when the shooting starts. Interesting question for the pro-war folks, too; Do you think that it is morally acceptable to bomb a building when you know that there are a dozen noncombatants camped out in the lobby?

- Chris
 
Chris Rhines,

It is still interesting to ponder, though, how this might play out when the shooting starts.
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I'm not covering bets, but something tells me that if you want a preview, you could go get some ground chuck out of the fridge and throw it real hard against a cinderblock wall... ;)
 
Still, you have to give them some respect for being willing to lay their lives on the line.
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You don't really think these peaceniks are going to place themselves in harm's way, do you? This is posturing for the cameras.
 
Interesting question for the pro-war folks, too; Do you think that it is morally acceptable to bomb a building when you know that there are a dozen noncombatants camped out in the lobby?
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Yes.

Simple question. Simple answer.
 
rock jock - Perhaps, although a cursory reading of the article leads me to think that some of these folks...I wouldn't dismiss them as peacenicks out of hand.

Rangerover - Sigh. Well, I guess it's to be expected that some people will decide to be evil when given the choice.

- Chris
 
Do you think that it is morally acceptable to bomb a building when you know that there are a dozen noncombatants camped out in the lobby?
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Puhleeeeze...! :rolleyes:

Were they warned? Yup, that's why they're there.

Did they have a chance to leave? Yup, plenty of them.

Don't confuse war with morality.

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Once the bombs and rounds start landing close by, they will run like the wind. If they stay at the target, oh well, collateral damage I guess.
 
Remember folks, these are volunteer human shields. They have made their choice to deliberately camp out next to prime military targets.

If they were really anti-war, they would be demonstrating in downtown Bagdad, demanding Saddam's resignation. :D

If they get killed in either endeavour, thats the result of their own decisions.
 
As far as the Americans are concerned:

"Treason: "Against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort..."




"In the Twentieth Century, eight treason cases arising out of World War II established four elements for conviction on the "aid and comfort" prong of the crime: (1) intention to betray the United States, (2) manifested in an overt act, (3) testified to by two witnesses, (4) giving aid and comfort to the enemy. (A declaration of war is unnecessary; mere hostilities are enough). "

If they plan to surround military targets they meet all four. Treason is punishable by death.
 
When the SHTF the protesters then can be said to be giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and as has been said, makes them guilty of treason. Not a problem though, trial, conviction, and sentence will have been carried out saving us further expense.


KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE AND YOUR ENEMIES CLOSER!!!
 
Oh boy.......demonstators in front of military targets? Does Hans Blicks have enough brain matter to go and investigate these sites? Probably not-the demonstrators and Blicks are at least a cheeseburger short of a Happy Meal.:uhoh: Blicks reminds me of a lot of ARVN soldiers on patrol-they knew where the bad guys were and just went where they weren't.
 
I have an idea for the roster for the "Human Shield Squad"....

Hanoi Jane Fonda

The Baldwin 'Sisters' Alecia Willemenia Stephanie i.e Alec William Stephen

Sean Penn

Rosie O'Dumbo

Lil Tommy Cruise

That's all I can think of right now, I'm sure there are lots more....

[Didn't Lil Tommy Cruise make a statement about moving self & kids to Australia a while back?]

And, while we are at it, lets send Prof. Mikey Belles-Lies over to see how many Iraqis passed guns down to their children through wills & trusts, etc....
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Do you think that it is morally acceptable to bomb a building when you know that there are a dozen noncombatants camped out in the lobby?
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IF they are inside that building of they own free will and know that they are inside a target - yes.

If an enemy soldier was hiding behind a noncombatant (who is willing to cover the soldier), would you rather get shot or shoot the enemy, risking to hit the enemy noncombatant?
 
Rangerover - Sigh. Well, I guess it's to be expected that some people will decide to be evil when given the choice.
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Evil? Hmm. Not quite. These people are making a voluntary choice to involve themselves in this matter. They are placing themselves in harms way with the forseeable result of harm actually coming to them, and while you may respect their fortitude, they are directly aiding Saddam. They are a different kind of combatant and should be treated accordingly. They've made their choice, they must now bear the responsibility. Or do you believe that they should be protected from themselves?
 
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