hunting without a tree stand

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well tomorrow is opening day and this will be my first real hunting season that i can hunt when i want and not depend on others for rides since i got my drivers lisense

but i dont have a tree stand i was planning on just picking a tree with a nice line of sight and sitting at the base of it


any tips for a new hunter not using a tree stand?
 
I haven't hunted in decades, but I'll give you may advice anyway. Be downwind of your prey. Since you will be at ground level, they will be able to smell you and spot you more easily than in a tree stand. Be careful of sudden movements.
 
At the least carry in a piece of burlap to make a quick blind. Getting made by a deer is no fun. Sitting at the bottom of a tree always seems like a good idea, until you try it. It leaves you way too exposed.

There are also a lot of affordable "pop-up" blinds out on the market. They are light and many pack very easily.

Good luck.
 
I prefer to hunt on the ground. I have hunted from trees before and it is easier to take a deer from the tree. I just like to have my boots on the ground. Part of that is because of where and how I hunt. I sometimes use a camoflage net to hide any movements. Pay attention to your scent. It is much safer hunting on the ground. I don't remember the exact numbers but some where around 80% of all hunting accidents here in Georgia are from hunters falling from trees.
 
No one uses tree stands where I hunt. I didn't even know they existed until after I graduated high school (years ago).

Obviously hunting is an art and a science. But here are the basics.

Walk around real quietly. Have a sling on your rifle, but don't use it. Carry your rifle in your hands, or when/if you get tired cradle it in your arms. This allows for quick shots and dramatically increases success/kills.

Don't wear clothes that make unnatural sounds when pushed against foliage (Your clothing can't go "swisch or snap").

Don't have anything in your pockets that make metallic sounds (like extra rounds).

Be very quite. I often shoot a deer just after leaving my boat. Most people don't. Because they make a bunch of noise, slamming their skiff against the rocks, or in your case, car doors. Also, talking loudly with each other. You should whisper or not talk at all.

Pay attention to where you are going, where you've been and land marks.

Don't get lost.

A deer call used properly can really, really work.
/Especially in the rut.
 
i got a buck bomb and im going to try that to cover my scent some

and i am going out ot the garage to find something to use for a blind i really hadnt thought about that much

i will be hunting over a small field and if i dont have any t luck there there are some power lines i will try in the evening

and ive also been toying and talking to my girlfriends dad about using a grunt
 
Shot a lot of deer off the ground.

I watch the wind and have a couple of different sites depending on the flow. The internet or AM radio weather report will give you the general direction. I sit in a green plastic walmart chair in the corner of a field for my best place. I sit just inside the treeline and add to the cover by cutting off some branches with hand snips and pushing them into the ground around me. Usually I try to add an evergreen branch to add to the scent cover.

I always use camo gloves and a bandana, camo hat and face shield. Helps with mosquitos. I use a buck scent cover in a spray pump and rattle, or just sit and watch with binocs. I wear Swiss army alpenflashe coveralls usually but have just worn nearly anything to be comfortable in the weather. I always add the gloves so my hand movements will be screened, a ballcap to shade and darken my face and some kind of face cover. If you don't move, they won't notice you.

I don't wear the same ballcap I have sweated through all year shooting highpower and wash my hunting clothes in fragrace free detergent.

Once you hunt a place long enough you know where to watch for the deer.

I've rattled up some pretty good deer. Used to spray my rubber boots with buck lure walking in. Had a few bucks follow me to my stand.

I usually am aimed and set by the time they walk into the kill zone, but if not I just get my rifle up when they are looking the other way. I do make sure I can reach my rifle without moving much and practice with it a couple times when settling in.

When we hunt does up at Clarksville I sit in some pretty expensive fiberglass tower stands and wear warm clothing. Usually the only concern is about whatever old military spec rifle I am shooting and taking a snack.

I wouldn't go crazy on scent cover but I think the buck lure is a big help early in the season and the doe lure later.
 
I hunt from the ground too.

Since you will be at ground level, they will be able to smell you and spot you more easily than in a tree stand. Be careful of sudden movements.

I'd advise to try to be downwind, on high ground, and not skylined. I don't know the OP's terrain in eastern NC, but on cooler/cold mornings, the deer will probably prefer the east side of a ridge because that's where the sun warms up first. You'll want to be up the ridge above the deer so they don't get your scent on the thermals.

Do be careful of sudden movements... I deal with this all the time. Anytime I can keep still and not spook the deer, I count that as a success.

At the least carry in a piece of burlap to make a quick blind.

Not a bad idea.

Getting made by a deer is no fun. Sitting at the bottom of a tree always seems like a good idea, until you try it. It leaves you way too exposed.

Actually, that's how I do... I'll sit or lean on a tree where I have decent back-cover. Nope, getting made's no fun. But it's a challenge to stay cool and keep still while the deer walk by.

There are also a lot of affordable "pop-up" blinds out on the market. They are light and many pack very easily.

I won't gripe about folks who use those, but I think I'd kinda feel closed in. Not having been inside one, I wonder how they limit the field of view.

I prefer to hunt on the ground.

I just like to have my boots on the ground.

That's me too. I don't like the feel of that tree swaying.

I sometimes use a camoflage net to hide any movements.

I've used white pine branches, freshly cut, woven into some hog wire.

Pay attention to your scent.

Try to stay downwind. If you're on the side of a ridge, try to be high enough that you'll be above the deer. I mentioned the thermals earlier.

My Daddy hunted the side of a mountain on one Georgia WMA years ago. He said he passed six or eight guys on his way up, got out of sight of the last one and sat down on a rock outcropping. He said he wasn't there 20 minutes when this forkhorn came trotting by from uphill and behind him from his right. Daddy shot that buck soon as he got where he wanted him. That buck came from uphill of those other guys... he could smell 'em because the thermals carried their scents up to him. So that buck came across above them, out of sight of the last one, but didn't know Daddy was out there on his left because he didn't smell him.

It is much safer hunting on the ground. I don't remember the exact numbers but some where around 80% of all hunting accidents here in Georgia are from hunters falling from trees.

That, according to the hunter safety class I was in, is the #1 hunting accident.

Walk around real quietly. Have a sling on your rifle, but don't use it. Carry your rifle in your hands, or when/if you get tired cradle it in your arms. This allows for quick shots and dramatically increases success/kills.

I don't recommend walking around. This is another one that sounds good till you try it. The deer pick up on movement as much as sound and walking around is easily detected.

My old Winchester .30-30 don't have a sling. I carry it hunting, not only for it's power and accuracy, but because it's lightweight.

Don't wear clothes that make unnatural sounds when pushed against foliage (Your clothing can't go "swisch or snap").

Yup.

Don't have anything in your pockets that make metallic sounds (like extra rounds).

Yup.

Be very quite. I often shoot a deer just after leaving my boat. Most people don't. Because they make a bunch of noise, slamming their skiff against the rocks, or in your case, car doors. Also, talking loudly with each other. You should whisper or not talk at all.

The crazy thing about this, while I agree on principle, is that I've occassionally had coughing fits and sneezing fits while watching a herd of does. Instead of spooking and running off, they just stood there and watched me and went back to grazing. I've also had deer come out and watch while the farrier was beating on his anvil to shape horseshoes. But I agree about a boat on rocks or car doors and such as that. Loud talking where the deer aren't used to hearing people talk at all... now that would scare 'em off.
 
I don't particularly like to hunt from a tree stand unless it is a large one. I often get sleepy (you get up early to hunt) and I don't feel like falling out of a tree stand or hanging from a strap (after you fall) adds much to the hunting experience. If the area you hunt is open woods or something similar, you will do just fine on the ground.

You learn new things just about every time you go out hunting. Try it on the ground this year. If you think a stand is more to your liking, get a stand or build a stand for next year.
 
Set up a few branches around you to break up the outline and stay back off the trail. Take something to sit on. Gets uncomfortable quick with a wet butt on rocks or dirt, or even a log. There are those hot seat things that keep you warm and dry, and are super comfortable. You can buy pre-made camo blinds that are small, lighter, and don't have the smell of burlap. Sometimes I take a backpack with the blind, water and lunch, and the seat cushion.

If you sit in one place for hours, you'll leave a lot of scent so I'd change spots from day to day and be sure to stay off the main trail.
 
well i had an alright morning

i got out and i was hunting an open field about 50 yrds long and iw as in the brush

i sat there for about an hour and didnt c a thing except a squirrel (which was constantly dropping nuts on my head so i debated taking it ut with my .30-30 out of spite lol)

but i decided to try and get to another field and i was on a trail walking...........and i come around a cudzoo(sp?) covered pile of brush and .......BAM THERE IS A DOE 6FT AWAY STARING AT ME

you know that deer in the headlights look.......yeah thats how my face and the deers face was lol

so after staring at this doe for like 6 seconds i pull up my rifle and the thing is running away so i took 2 shots and missed but man this doe jst cought me by surprise

i was really close to ****ting my self when i saw it
 
you know that deer in the headlights look.......yeah thats how my face and the deers face was lol

BTDT

so after staring at this doe for like 6 seconds i pull up my rifle and the thing is running away so i took 2 shots and missed but man this doe jst cought me by surprise

Well, even a couple of seconds feels like a long time in that situation. Thing I've learned though... a deer running away is a real easy target to miss. It's worse when the adrenaline's on. I don't ever advise anyone taking butt shots, aka "Texas heart shot" or "Texas enema", like that. Gut shot deer's a mess to clean up and it does effect the taste. Also, you can shoot a deer to pieces and not kill it... having one laying there thrashin' and bawlin' will stay with you too; it ain't pleasant.

Bottom line... pick a good sure broadside shot, get a good solid rest you can so you're as steady as you can get- bracing on a small tree works- and steady yourself mentally... breath, relax, front sight in the crease of the deer's shoulder, squeeze. The fundamentals of shooting a deer are the same as the fundamentals of shooting a paper target. Snap shooting's more likely to leave you frustrated.

Good luck on your next time.
 
If you are new to the hunting sport, I would refrain from taking shots at running deer.
 
gather some brush/branches and make yourself a ground blind. This will help conceal your movement and greatly improve your chances ;)
 
well when i wen tto take my first shot it hadnt taken off yet but it did as soon as i pulled the trigger

im going back out in a little
 
well when i wen tto take my first shot it hadnt taken off yet but it did as soon as i pulled the trigger

im going back out in a little

heh-heh........sounds like you had a good time. Persistence is a good thing.


BTW....do you remember seein' the front sights? Many time when they jump up right in front of us we tend to raise the gun and look at the deer as we shoot. If our rifle fits like a good shotgun, odds are good.....if not, we need to use the dern sights. Good luck.
 
i was using my .30-30 with a scope buck sooooo there wasnt a whole lot of looking at the sights

i had the magnification on 1.5 becaseu i wasnt expecting anything

but man i dont know how i missed that

nuthing else this evening ......there was a pesky woodpecker that made me wonder if the fine was worth it or not lol
 
When I lived in PA, I took all of my deer without a tree stand. In fact, I have never taken a deer from a tree stand anywhere. One I took walking carefully and slowly through the woods. The others I got by sitting on the ground in my blaze orange jacket with my back to a log or stump and waiting for the deer to come to me. They came so close, I could have hit them with a rock.
 
i was using my .30-30 with a scope buck sooooo there wasnt a whole lot of looking at the sights

Did you even see the crosshair's?

i had the magnification on 1.5 becaseu i wasnt expecting anything

For the distances it seems you're talking about, 1.5X is about right. Crank it up and you won't be able to see the deer through the brush.

but man i dont know how i missed that

People miss close-in shots because they don't take the care to line up the shot like they would the longer shots. Adrenaline can play a big part in that... it makes you think you're doing something you're not actually doing, or make you act faster than you can think.

It's also possible, considering you said "well when i wen tto take my first shot it hadnt taken off yet but it did as soon as i pulled the trigger", that you may have actually hit with the first shot. When you don't know, it's an ethical hunter's responsibilty to try to find sign and track the animal, or at least follow and probably walk circles to try and find/recover the animal.
 
Seeing wild animals takes a shift in your thinking. Stop looking for things that look like deer and refocus your eyes on the big picture so to speak. Look for movement. When something moves it stands out against the background like a neon sign. I scout early and often and when the season starts I only move into and out of the area. I generally don't sit in the same spot more than two days in a row. I always wear a face net and usually something to break up my profile.
 
It's also possible, considering you said "well when i wen tto take my first shot it hadnt taken off yet but it did as soon as i pulled the trigger", that you may have actually hit with the first shot. When you don't know, it's an ethical hunter's responsibilty to try to find sign and track the animal, or at least follow and probably walk circles to try and find/recover the animal.

i did think about that at the time

i spent about 20 mins walkig this field lookign for blood or the deer and i found neither i did take the time to walk the field adn the outskirts looking for some kind of a trail

......maybe i shot it in the ear......they were really big when i looked at it lol



i think what it was was jsut that i wasnt expecting the deer to be there so when i did i rushed my shot which lead to me missing it and then the deer took off
 
The tree lines bisecting the cleared area are natural travel lines. Be aware of the wind. Can't tell the lay of this area but keep in mind that in the morning with no wind the natural movement of air is down hill because of temperature differences. Get out early and set up in a corner made by one of the cover lines and be as motionless and quiet as possible.
 
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