I don't understand the popularity of the M&P Shield guns.

S&W M&P Shields do not not fit my hands, but they fit the hands of some people I respect, who train extensively with their Shields. The Shield Plus works better in my hands, regarding fit, but recently, my right hand aged-out of being able able to shoot compact nines, as a category, so, I have not been in any hurry to buy a Shield Plus. (If I shoot 9mm right-handed, now, it is normally only with auto-pistols that have full-length grips.)

I have not heard that S&W uses failure-prone polymer. I think that the S&W M&P auto-pistol line has been in the field, long enough, to prove their polymer parts well enough.

Of the several polymer-frame pistols I have tried, over the years, some specific Glocks seems to fit me the most reasonably well. So, while not a “Glock fan” or a “Glock boy,” I do have some Glocks, that I shoot with either hand, and some compact Glocks, for lefty usage. For some time, while I was working as a police officer, specified Glocks were on the list of approved duty pistols. Glocks were Gen3 at the time, and they were the most-acceptable fit, a simple process of elimination, rather than an established brand preference, so, I worked hard to develop what some call “muscle memory” with Glocks. Later, the Gen4 Glocks fit me much better, and 9mm was an acceptable alternative duty cartridge initially for plain-clothed investigators, and later for uniformed personnel. With scientists telling us that it takes 3500 repetitions to develop acceptable competence, and some indications are that 10,000+ repetitions are needed to develop true unconscious competence, I am not going to throw away that advantage, by switching to a different polymer pistol system. (Plus, I’d rather not spend the money, anytime soon, on 10K rounds of ammo, to learn a new system.)

So, had the S&W M&P40 been on the list of approved duty pistols, at the time I transitioned to Glock, I just might have become accustomed to the S&W M&P auto-pistol system, instead, and might have liked the Shield, when it later came along.

Edited to add: Sorry about typing so much, but, I will leave it. A beginner might find it useful.
 
Interesting. The first striker fired gun I owned was a XD-40. I liked it a lot & practiced with it. After I had a couple thousand rounds through it my neighbor & I were walking out of the woods after hunting. He suggested we each shoot at a knot on a tree with our pistols. I shot a group with my XD-40 about half the size of the one he did with his G-23. Then he offered to let me shoot his 3rd Gen. G-23. I shot a group about half the size of the one I had just shot with the XD I had spent all that time & money trying to become proficient with. That took a lot of shine off the XD for me. I kept if for a pretty good while afterwards but wound up going to a M&P 2.0 40 Compact. I might be wrong but I doubt I'll ever buy another XD. The only Shield I have shot is a 380 EZ. I don't carry 380 but I did like it. Everyone has to find what works best for them.
 
It is not important that you understand the popularity of the M&P Shield models. You are free to select guns you prefer. Others have, and exercise, that same freedom. Why is that hard to understand?

Leads like this disparage other people's choices. You can claim all day that wasn't your intention and it doesn't matter. Not your cup of tea. We get it. As others have said, you have many options. There are many alternatives now that were not there a few years ago. Even Glocks are improved over time.
 
I tried the Shield, the XD, and the Ruger EC 9 at the range before buying a compact 9mm (this was about 7 years ago). By far the Shield shot the best. I didn't like the cheese-grater grips of the XD and it felt top-heavy. The Ruger's grip was too small for my hands. The Shield fit my hands and is surprising accurate, as well. I didn't notice anything flimsy about the Shield vis-à-vis the XD and it seemed overall tighter. The Ruger did feel a bit lighter in construction.
 
My EDC is the the Shield Plus. Perfect ergos for my hands. Small enough (yes, I do pocket carry this gun... just need the right holster) for concealment but plenty of meat for hot loads.

What the S&W M&P line has over other mfr's - except perhaps Glock - is commonality over the spectrum of auto pistol calibers.

They work, they're affordable, no gimmicks. I'll be adding to my family of M&P's over time.

But buy what YOU like.
 
I have first gen Shield 9. It’s a ok gun but, even adding a slip on grip, it just didn’t fit me well. I shoot my Glock 26 better. I love the XDM 3.8. It has a full size grip and feels great. Shoots a lot like the Glock but, gets heavy after a while when carrying on active days. F527D183-2813-44F7-BBD2-1745BC1FC61A.jpeg 158507E2-DB61-40A8-9F62-3B4E7C8D2AEB.jpeg 2DCF0BD7-F128-4878-8908-CB34FA2B8D5D.jpeg
 
I have a first gen shield and a compact 1.0 that I have had great luck with but can admit the triggers are not great and the texture on the grips is a bit lacking. The compact trigger actually wore in to being pretty decent after several thousand rounds, but the shield is stubbornly staying horid and it might get an apex at some point.

I also have a 2.0 compact and have to say that while the trigger may not be 1911 good, it is far from bad and the grip texture is much better for me to hang on to. I like it much better than any glock or XD I have handled. I guess that's why its good we have so many options on the market.

Highly recommend the Apex trigger over the stock 1.0 trigger. Also, the Talon grip really helped with grip texture on the 1.0 but the sandpaper-like texture on the Shield Plus is simply better, it's super grippy without thrashing your hand or shirts.
 
I LOVE the Shield Plus. The Performance Center models have amazing triggers. Best factory trigger on a striker fired gun I have ever felt. They break between 3.25 and 3.5 pounds. I have two of the Performance Center Shield Plus models, and one regular Shield Plus with factory night sights.

I've also owned three version 1 Shields and a 4" 2.0 Performance Center Shield.

Once the Shield Plus came out, I sold my regular sized Shields... Because, I knew they would stay in the safe...

But the Shield Plus. They are amazing carry guns. And, the 4" PC version is scary accurate. I am amazed at how well this gun can shoot.

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My Shield Plus is the PC version. I concur, great little guns.
 
Have carried mine for a year now, no signs with either of those issues, FWIW. Just a focus group of one.
I have read more than one report of the pins walking out on some of them . I read a report just today on a newly purchased one . I just handed one at a LGS last week and I liked it . I was going to purchase one , thinking that the problem might be fixed by now , until I read this new report today . I believe you when you say that yours doesn’t have that problem , but I also believe the numerous post that say theirs does . I don’t want to take that chance with my life or money .
 
This thread smells of “troll”. I alternate carrying 4 different guns, a Ruger LC9, a Kimber Aegis Elite Ultra 9 mm, a Taurus 85 38 spl. revolver and the Shield 2.0 in 9mm.The Shield is by far my favorite, lighter than the Kimber more comfortable to grip than the others. Proportions are dandy, I love the look of it. Other than the polymer frame I can find no other fault. C1-B05-B6-F-8-BFA-4-ECE-AD10-54775-C5-B41-CE.jpg
 
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Certainly interesting. When I was first looking for a pistol, I shot a lot of the different brands, mostly in the compact or larger variants. The M&P 9 was just not comfortable or accurate, so I basically discontinued all of the S&W pistols. I left with a Glock 17 Gen 4 and it served me well. Today, my "go to" full size is a P-320 w/ red dot and my small gun is a P-365XL w/ red dot. My Glock 19X is also in the "preferred" circle. With these comments, thinking that I will try a Shield Plus rental next range trip.
 
Highly recommend the Apex trigger over the stock 1.0 trigger. Also, the Talon grip really helped with grip texture on the 1.0 but the sandpaper-like texture on the Shield Plus is simply better, it's super grippy without thrashing your hand or shirts.

I tried the talon grips and I did like them but I wore the one on my 1.0 compact out and then gave in and bought a 2.0 compact to replace it. I like the texture on the 2.0 quite a bit. I manage a horse farm and do a lot of fab work and farm repairs for other places and I am hard on the stuff I carry. My hands are dry and calloused and frequently have grease or hydraulic oil on them so I wanted something that really has some traction and the talon grips got pretty slick over time.
The 2.0 is my EDC and I didn't do anything to it but add night sights. I am tempted to try some stippling on the 1.0 and then stick an apex trigger in it if that works out. I really like that gun but after almost 15 years of carry the grip is like I used a buffer on it.
 
S&W, Glock, Sig, …
Ford, Chevy, Dodge, …
Oh the joy of having choices and being able to buy what suits you best, or at least better.

One thing that the top tier firearms manufacturers do better is to establish a reliable model or line, then sustain compatibility through the improvements that come over successive generations. Availability through time of magazines, holsters, aftermarket upgrade parts, replacement parts, etc generates “popularity”. Glock probably does this best - Glock only sells one gun, just in different sizes & calibers. Walther does this badly, cranking out new models without allowing the aftermarket to catch up.

That said, I have a couple of Shields (original, not Plus) set up with extended magazines and laser sights for home defense use. Their grips are sized to fit more household members’ hands than full sized handguns.
 
Part of the popularity of the Shield is that when S&W got ready to close out the ver.1.0, they blew them out at fire-sale prices, along with manufacturers rebates.
I got my .40 first. From Academy Sports for about $229. Minus two $100 gift cards, and a $20 off $100 purchase, and I got an extra magazine. Total expenditure was about $30.
The second, a 9mm, I got a similar deal.

I gifted the .40 to my long time best friend as a retirement/birthday gift as he only had a .22 rifle and a questionable ‘60’s vintage euro .22 revolver.

I’m very satisfied with my 1.0 Shield. It’s my everyday carry. That’s saying something as I got perhaps two dozen alternatives.
The .40 is my friend’s only gun, though his BIL offered to trade him a 9mm Glock for it! He carry’s it EVERYWHERE!
 
I have the compact, in between the shield and full size. And a full size LEO model, both 40s.
The Shield wasn't out yet when I got the compact, but I have tried a couple, a 9 and a 40, over the last couple yrs. Love how small the shield is as far a concealed carry, but the 40s recoil is a bit rough. The 9, not so bad. 40 in the compact is a little easier, in the full size, no big deal.
The compact and full size are definitely harder to conceal, and that alone could make it quite popular. I like the M&P line of autos, never leave home without one or both. For me personally the shield isn't a good fit. Somebody else, perfect
 
LEO retired, carried Glocks for 8 years, one on my duty belt and a bug. Gravitated to S&W MP's then to shields after I retired. My Shield 45 act is a tack driver and dead on with the limited adj sights. I only pocket carry so the thin grip with my fat hand comes out of my pocket freely. 342016903_739809477689837_7980845517189142419_n.jpg 341768605_754901342835900_82421469045770946_n.jpg 342016903_739809477689837_7980845517189142419_n.jpg
 
I'm a little surprised that anyone but the tiniest of humans manage to squeeze their fingers into the trigger guard of a Shield Plus without firing a shot immediately.
 
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I'm a little surprised that anyone but the tiniest of humans manage to squeeze their fingers into the trigger guard of a Shield Plus without firing a shot immediately.

And THAT is why I prefer the curved trigger on a P365 series pistol, because it has more room inside the trigger guard to allow a gloved finger to fit, than the straight trigger.

A person needs to choose a self defense pistol that works well under real life conditions rather than what works well in an indoor shooting range.
 
I have very average sized fingers and have zero issues running drills and shooting from concealment with the Shield Plus?
Plenty of room for me. Have you ever shot one?
 
When I finally was “awarded” my carry concealed permit I went out and handled as many pistols as I could to get a feel for what fit ME the best.
The Sheild Plus fit my hand the best.
Everyone is different, and that is why there are different styles and makes.
Similar to shoes sizes. While I may wear a nine, someone who wears a twelve may not understand how anyone could wear a nine….
 
I have owned 2 Shields, one was the ported Performance Center model, the other was a standard Shield. Both are wonderful for carry. I didn't really care for the porting, so I sold the Performance Center version and kept the regular version.

Shields are good guns, and on par with any other micro compact 9mm. I think any S&W bashing in this thread boils down to either personal preference, or someone who just happened to get a lemon, which seems to happen with almost any manufacturer, except maybe for Glock.
 
I think any S&W bashing in this thread boils down to either personal preference, or someone who just happened to get a lemon, which seems to happen with almost any manufacturer, except maybe for Glock.

Yes biases exist in everything we spend our hard earned dollars on.

Glock is definitely not immune. I was the owner of a G19G4 that was a single shot when Gen4 first dropped. Plus they do quietly fix a ton of their issues.
 
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