I don't want a Sig P365. Tell me why I'm wrong or offer options.

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The time is coming that I want to replace my 14 year old Glock 36 with something that is easier to rack the slide. At age 59, I still have enough hand strength for the G36, but I'd like to get something that would ride with me for another 14 years or more.

I keep looking at replacement guns, whether revolver or semi-auto, and keep landing back at something like a Sig P365 XL. My problem is that I have an aversion to whatever is ubiquitous. Yet, ubiquitous means an excellent selection of holsters, accessories, upgrades, parts, etc.

So, I really keep bucking the P365. Tell me why I'm wrong to resist it or offer me a better solution for the same size pistola. I know the obvious answer might be a Glock 19, and as much as I appreciate Glocks, I really want my next pistol to point like the P365, CZ75, 1911, etc. And I'm discounting the CZ75s (already own one) due to me wanting a larger grip area on the slide.

Your advice, opinions, or derision would be greatly appreciated. :D
 
I love my P365, I kept it based on size, capacity, natural point of aim. They are accurate shooters.

With that said, with your stated reasons, I would at least look at the Shield EZ. Less rounds, but it does do what it says on the box. Easy to rack, nice size. I have shot them in 9 and .30 SC and like them.

But I will keep my P365. I have been carrying one for a while, and dont see anything I like better. It replaced my P320 Subcompact, which replaced my M&P9c, which replaced my PT111G2, Shield .45, XDS .45, Kimber Ultra Raptor, RIA Officers,....
 
On a similar quest I bought a P365XL 3 years ago almost to the day. It was a pretty new offering (2019) and addressed the vague issues I had with the base P365 model when it came out (grip so tiny, unproven, etc). I'm still carrying it today, and have expanded my P365 lineup to include a stainless P365, and one of the gold colored FCUs which I assembled into a 17-round macro. The thing is, these things work. Along the way I got myself a Hellcat, but had to return it as it started developing feed problems with top quality ammo, and broke a striker after a lot of dry fire. It's replacement(s) have worked fine and are suitable for carry, I just found I preferred the P365 series more.

As to resistance to whatever is ubiquitous, I can recommend evaluating dispassionately. In my case as a southpaw, I can actuate the slide stop on the P365 series with my trigger finger knuckle. The Hellcat slide stop is too far back and too recessed for me to do that. I liked the glock-like trigger on the hellcat, and the P365 trigger was a bit spooky for me being relatively lighter with no blade safety - but I got over it once I came to understand its safety features and acceptance as authorized by respected law enforcement agencies.

I added a Wilson Combat P365XL grip module with tungsten weights to my XL, finding I liked the "more grip" it provides. It's not going into a pocket, and for my use IWB it works well. Honorable mention to the Glock 43x/48 as very good pistols also and you already know how to work and service it :)
 
The new Ultra Carry j frame collaboration between Lipsey and S&W impresses me. Can get it in 32mag if you want something less common, but plenty of holsters for J frames out there.

I am interested by the FN Reflex as it has an internal hammer rather than a striker. Same small platform with good mag capacity like the 365.

Shield Pro would also be on my look list.

Beretta PX4 Compact Carry? I am very impressed with the Langdon Tactical version. Plus, it has a hammer which I prefer and g-model decocker.
 
I think you’re making the right decision. Here is video proof of how disrespectful Sig is to customers. Most of us think of ourselves as living with integrity but supporting a company like Sig shows you don’t know what that word means.

youtu.be

🔴LEAD & LIES!🔴...SIG P322 Leaded Barrel and Customer Service FAIL!

Finally an end to nearly a year of lies and excuses from @sigsauerinc over their failure of a .22lr. Apparently, according to one of their "Team Lead" custom...
youtu.be youtu.be
 
maxxhavoc said:
I love my P365, I kept it based on size, capacity, natural point of aim. They are accurate shooters.

With that said, with your stated reasons, I would at least look at the Shield EZ. Less rounds, but it does do what it says on the box. Easy to rack, nice size. I have shot them in 9 and .30 SC and like them.

But I will keep my P365. I have been carrying one for a while, and dont see anything I like better. It replaced my P320 Subcompact, which replaced my M&P9c, which replaced my PT111G2, Shield .45, XDS .45, Kimber Ultra Raptor, RIA Officers,....
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Agree, for ease of racking the slide an EZ or the double stack version, the Equalizer.
 
chicharrones said:
The time is coming that I want to replace my 14 year old Glock 36 with something that is easier to rack the slide. At age 59, I still have enough hand strength for the G36, but I'd like to get something that would ride with me for another 14 years or more.

I keep looking at replacement guns, whether revolver or semi-auto, and keep landing back at something like a Sig P365 XL. My problem is that I have an aversion to whatever is ubiquitous. Yet, ubiquitous means an excellent selection of holsters, accessories, upgrades, parts, etc.

So, I really keep bucking the P365. Tell me why I'm wrong to resist it or offer me a better solution for the same size pistola. I know the obvious answer might be a Glock 19, and as much as I appreciate Glocks, I really want my next pistol to point like the P365, CZ75, 1911, etc. And I'm discounting the CZ75s (already own one) due to me wanting a larger grip area on the slide.

Your advice, opinions, or derision would be greatly appreciated. :D
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Well, if not carrying the G36, then it's the Sig P938 9mm, with 147 gr. standard pressure HST.
 
My friend keeps up with things. He has a 365 and a couple of EZ's. I shot them all. They're nice. Zero problems.

That kind of thing isn't my cup of tea, but the 365XL is his current favorite.
 
My Micro 9mm. line-up in their preferred order (at least by me):

1) SIG P365X. Best trigger, sights, ergonomics, and manual safety.
2) S&W M&P 9 Shield Plus. Decent trigger, sights, ergonomics, difficult to use manual safety.
3) Glock G48. Average trigger, average sights, good ergonomics, no manual safety.
4) Glock G43X. Average trigger, average sights, good ergonomics, no manual safety.
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CDW4ME said:
Sig 365 is a "decent"* minimum carry, 11 rounds.
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Ah, but the 365XL with 12 round mags and a 15-round spare is the ticket. For me, the best combination of ergonomics, reliability, accuracy, capacity, sights and a great trigger is the 365 series, with the XL my favorite.

For me, the closest competitor to the 365 was the SA Hellcat. In fact, if I'd bought the Hellcat first, that might be the pistol I tout the most. I like the Hellcat sights a lot, it points well for me, is ergonomic, lightweight, accurate... crisp trigger with a distinct short reset which was okay for me in spite of my disdain for The Trigger Dingus (just a flat-faced trigger guy at heart).

I also have the G 43X, for which I have a sneaky fondness, and the 19X, the one Glock pistol I've actually bonded with over the past 35 years.

My last employer actually issued some Shields to non-uniform personnel, and while I'm okay with the full-sized M&P and the 2.0 M&P Compact, the Shield never felt as good in the hand as comparably sized pistols from other makers, and the trigger wasn't nearly as good as some either.

I wouldn't push anyone toward only one gun, nor say which is the best, but I found the 365 XL to be the best option in a sub-compact/micro-compact poly-framed striker pistol for me. Obviously, lots of differing opinions abound, so really, all one can do is try out as many of the available options and make an educated choice (not one based on some fanboy's opinion on an internet gun forum, what Kyle Lamb says on Outdoor TV's Guns & Ammo show or a pretty ad in a firearms periodical).
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I really wanted to like the P365XL until I shot one. It didn't fit my hands or something (I have rather long fingers) -- it shot way low for me. It shot fine for its owner so I can't blame the gun. I shoot the Hellcat better, but a Shield fits my hand better than either of the other two.

Some of my favorite handguns that I've shot have been Sigs. I've disliked the feel and trigger of every other Springfield Armory striker-fired pistol I've handled, and have always approached S&W automatics with a big yawn. So if you'd asked me a few years ago about my preference between these three guns, I would not have predicted that the S&W would be #1 and the Sig would be #3.

There's nothing like actual trigger time to tell the tale.
 
maxxhavoc said:
I love my P365, I kept it based on size, capacity, natural point of aim. They are accurate shooters.

With that said, with your stated reasons, I would at least look at the Shield EZ. Less rounds, but it does do what it says on the box. Easy to rack, nice size. I have shot them in 9 and .30 SC and like them.

But I will keep my P365. I have been carrying one for a while, and dont see anything I like better. It replaced my P320 Subcompact, which replaced my M&P9c, which replaced my PT111G2, Shield .45, XDS .45, Kimber Ultra Raptor, RIA Officers,....
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As you can imagine with your short barrel .45s, they are harder to rack than equivalent barrel length 9mms. Heavier recoil springs in the .45s for one thing. So, I'm not at the verge of needing an EZ, I'm just wanting a "regular" double stack 9mm with a slide that's easy to grip.

My G36 has the "frying pan" finish and is quite slippery, and add that to a short barrel .45 ACP recoil spring.
 
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Zendude said:
The Beretta 80x looks neat and it’s definitely not ubiquitous. The slide should be fairly easy to rack, but I have not handled one yet.
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I have the 80X's predecessor in a Beretta 81BB, which is well made old school shooter. I bought it as a possible "old man" gun back when they were cheap. Surprisingly, my CZ-75PCR is easier to rack the slide. Blowback action and springs versus locked breach, I guess.
 
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hoardingthemanual said:
I think you’re making the right decision. Here is video proof of how disrespectful Sig is to customers. Most of us think of ourselves as living with integrity but supporting a company like Sig shows you don’t know what that word means.

youtu.be

🔴LEAD & LIES!🔴...SIG P322 Leaded Barrel and Customer Service FAIL!

Finally an end to nearly a year of lies and excuses from @sigsauerinc over their failure of a .22lr. Apparently, according to one of their "Team Lead" custom...
youtu.be youtu.be
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Hmmm, a .22 LR issue. One thing is for sure, I won't be firing unjacketed bullets in whatever 9mm I get. I've done that before thanks to a friend that was reloader. Geez, the leading was horrible . . . in my CZ.
 
Old Dog said:
Ah, but the 365XL with 12 round mags and a 15-round spare is the ticket. For me, the best combination of ergonomics, reliability, accuracy, capacity, sights and a great trigger is the 365 series, with the XL my favorite.

For me, the closest competitor to the 365 was the SA Hellcat. In fact, if I'd bought the Hellcat first, that might be the pistol I tout the most. I like the Hellcat sights a lot, it points well for me, is ergonomic, lightweight, accurate... crisp trigger with a distinct short reset which was okay for me in spite of my disdain for The Trigger Dingus (just a flat-faced trigger guy at heart).

I also have the G 43X, for which I have a sneaky fondness, and the 19X, the one Glock pistol I've actually bonded with over the past 35 years.

My last employer actually issued some Shields to non-uniform personnel, and while I'm okay with the full-sized M&P and the 2.0 M&P Compact, the Shield never felt as good in the hand as comparably sized pistols from other makers, and the trigger wasn't nearly as good as some either.

I wouldn't push anyone toward only one gun, nor say which is the best, but I found the 365 XL to be the best option in a sub-compact/micro-compact poly-framed striker pistol for me. Obviously, lots of differing opinions abound, so really, all one can do is try out as many of the available options and make an educated choice (not one based on some fanboy's opinion on an internet gun forum, what Kyle Lamb says on Outdoor TV's Guns & Ammo show or a pretty ad in a firearms periodical).
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The XL with no safety lever is what I would be most interested in within the 365 line. Resistance may be futile. 🫢
 
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