George Hill
Member
http://www.robarm.com/vepr_ktr.htm
This is the hottest AK I have ever seen.
But, uh, the price is a little much...
This is the hottest AK I have ever seen.
But, uh, the price is a little much...
I gotta get me one of these! VEPR KTR
- Thread starter George Hill
- Start date
- Status
George, I got to handle one of the first ones. They are very nice.
However you can get similar features for a lot less money if you buy a Vepr, buy the Krebs A2 receiver sites. However then you lose out on the nifty Galil safety and you are stuck with having the ears from the old front site assembly in place.
Excellent weapons.
However you can get similar features for a lot less money if you buy a Vepr, buy the Krebs A2 receiver sites. However then you lose out on the nifty Galil safety and you are stuck with having the ears from the old front site assembly in place.
Excellent weapons.
BevrFevr
Member
drooooooling
Price is a little steep though. I would have to have a better look at that dust cover/sight set up to convince me.
I could put m16 sights on a broom but that don't mean it would be accurate.
nice looket though.
-bevr
Price is a little steep though. I would have to have a better look at that dust cover/sight set up to convince me.
I could put m16 sights on a broom but that don't mean it would be accurate.
nice looket though.
-bevr
Balog
Member
Is it just me or is that buttstock one ugly puppy?
George Hill
Member
Bevr... Veprs are very accurate rifles. These are not your cheap SARs... these are seriously fine examples of what a good AK is capable of.
I'd even put a Vepr up against any standard grade AR and a Super Vepr against any Match AR.
I'd even put a Vepr up against any standard grade AR and a Super Vepr against any Match AR.
BevrFevr
Member
George,
Oh yeah I'm aware that the VERP's are the AK to have and that is for sure.
I just was remarking about how they could stabilize the dust cover to such a degree as to mount a micro adjustable sight on it.
Most of the std vepr's have the sight mounted in a taditional manner. I've seen scope mounts on dust covers before but they sure as hell wouldn't hold any resemblance of a zero.
I would love to replace my sar-1 with any vepr but alas I am a half step above the peasant I once was.
If it is a stable mount then mounting a red dot sight would make a sublime battle instrument. It would really be quite nearly perfect.
-bevr
Oh yeah I'm aware that the VERP's are the AK to have and that is for sure.
I just was remarking about how they could stabilize the dust cover to such a degree as to mount a micro adjustable sight on it.
Most of the std vepr's have the sight mounted in a taditional manner. I've seen scope mounts on dust covers before but they sure as hell wouldn't hold any resemblance of a zero.
I would love to replace my sar-1 with any vepr but alas I am a half step above the peasant I once was.
If it is a stable mount then mounting a red dot sight would make a sublime battle instrument. It would really be quite nearly perfect.
-bevr
Nightcrawler
Member
Somebody here did a full review of those (Kreb's Custom, who works closely with Robinson Armament) M16 style sights. Can't recall who, though I'm sure he'll chime in eventually.
The price is high 'cause basically they're custom jobs.
Krebs VEPR KTR-03 Rifle
Krebs VEPR KTR-03S Rifle
Something else y'all might be interested in:
Kreb's Custom M-3A rifle, MSRP $1000.00.
Visit Krebs Custom for more information.
The price is high 'cause basically they're custom jobs.
Krebs VEPR KTR-03 Rifle
Krebs VEPR KTR-03S Rifle
Something else y'all might be interested in:
Kreb's Custom M-3A rifle, MSRP $1000.00.
Visit Krebs Custom for more information.
Kaylee
Member
Heavy receiver... $1200... from Robinson... why not just pony up the extra couple hundred at that level, buy their M96 and be done with it?
I'm sure it's built like a tank, and since they do have a reputation to maintain I imagine they figured out a pretty darn good solution for the dustcover mounted sight (leery as the idea looks, they're smart folks)... it just seems kinda.. well... pointless.
At least, pointless on the north side of $600 or so.
I'm sure it's built like a tank, and since they do have a reputation to maintain I imagine they figured out a pretty darn good solution for the dustcover mounted sight (leery as the idea looks, they're smart folks)... it just seems kinda.. well... pointless.
At least, pointless on the north side of $600 or so.
SodaPop
member
I don't like the stock.
It looks like its made out of chocolate.
It looks like its made out of chocolate.
j.wise
Member
I talked to Bryan at Krebs, today. He stated the rear AR style sight is $65, but it would be another $65 to have it installed on your dust cover. They also require you to ship the recoil spring assembly, because they do a custom job to the take-down button in order to put more stabilizing pressure on the receiver (or something like that.) Basically, they make the dust cover more sturdy, so the sight will hold a zero.
For $65, I would have my parts in the mail tomorrow. For twice that, I'll have to do some thinking, to be sure that's REALLY what I want to do to my rifle (same price as adding a Kobra.)
I'll probably end up just getting the Kobra, and using my Mojo ghost ring if I want to shoot with irons. Oh well... too bad they aren't cheaper.
For $65, I would have my parts in the mail tomorrow. For twice that, I'll have to do some thinking, to be sure that's REALLY what I want to do to my rifle (same price as adding a Kobra.)
I'll probably end up just getting the Kobra, and using my Mojo ghost ring if I want to shoot with irons. Oh well... too bad they aren't cheaper.
Nightcrawler
Member
It's actually quite sturdy; sturdier than a regular AK stock, in my opinion.
rock jock
Member
They still have that ugly buttstock and foreend. That was one big reason I got rid of my VEPR II earlier this year.
Nightcrawler
Member
Usually if you have a Kalashnikov, aesthetics aren't your top priority to begin with, but to each his/her/its own, I guess.
DMK
Member
I'd rather have one of these:
Unfortunately, they don't make a civvie version.
I'm the guy with the review of the Krebs sight.
www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19964
www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36559&highlight=krebs
I like them. They retain their zero. How good do they work? Yesterday I shot in a 3 gun match with it. Did a rifle Bill drill, (six shots on a single target at 40 yards) Three strings, I did it in under 3.5 seconds each time. So about as good as I could do with anything with iron sights. (did it with an EOtech in 1.8) Another stage was 3 shots at 30 yards, 3 shots at 50 yards, and 3 shots at 70 yards. My best run on that one was 8 seconds with the irons. (6.5 with the EOtech). The Vepr times are not really a fair comparison to the holosight times because the EOtech was on an AR with a muzzle brake. My Vepr has a crowned muzzle and is shooting a cartridge with more recoil. Either way the Krebs sights really work well if you prefer peep sights.
As for the Vepr stock, it is my least favorite part of the gun, but that is mostly due to the shape of the butt, I like them flat, not angled. Also I prefer rubber instead of plastic, not for the recoil control, but for the fact that it sticks in the pocket under rapid fire. I'm going to take a saw to mine, knock off the angle and mount a pad on it.
www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19964
www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36559&highlight=krebs
I like them. They retain their zero. How good do they work? Yesterday I shot in a 3 gun match with it. Did a rifle Bill drill, (six shots on a single target at 40 yards) Three strings, I did it in under 3.5 seconds each time. So about as good as I could do with anything with iron sights. (did it with an EOtech in 1.8) Another stage was 3 shots at 30 yards, 3 shots at 50 yards, and 3 shots at 70 yards. My best run on that one was 8 seconds with the irons. (6.5 with the EOtech). The Vepr times are not really a fair comparison to the holosight times because the EOtech was on an AR with a muzzle brake. My Vepr has a crowned muzzle and is shooting a cartridge with more recoil. Either way the Krebs sights really work well if you prefer peep sights.
As for the Vepr stock, it is my least favorite part of the gun, but that is mostly due to the shape of the butt, I like them flat, not angled. Also I prefer rubber instead of plastic, not for the recoil control, but for the fact that it sticks in the pocket under rapid fire. I'm going to take a saw to mine, knock off the angle and mount a pad on it.
Harry Tuttle
Member
- Joined
- Nov 14, 2003
- Messages
- 3,093
the core of the Vepr is assembled at Molot in Russia
in comparison, the American assembled M96 has an inferior build record
Whats also interesting is that it appears Robarm does not have an exclusive on Molot's rifles any more:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53163
in comparison, the American assembled M96 has an inferior build record
Whats also interesting is that it appears Robarm does not have an exclusive on Molot's rifles any more:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53163
natedog
Member
Very cool. Would it be possible to mount optics on that short piece of rail, or would it be mounted to high? Something like an Aimpoint, EoTech, or ACOG...
natedog
Member
It has a thumb safety just above the pistol grip on the left side...I wonder if the receiver mounted safety on the right side is disabled, or does the gun have two manual safeties? I think a Galil style charging handle would be very cool.
- Status
