I Hate Rifle "Combos"!

[rdnktrkr]

I bought a few of the Walmart closeouts, the plastic stocked ones didn't have a scope and the wood stocked ones had a cheap scope on them as you described. I found the plastic stock was flimsy and needed work to stiffen them up, with a little work installing carbon arrows (YouTube special) with epoxy the plastic stock works pretty well. They were all accurate for a hunting gun after load workup. If I was looking for another, I would not hesitate buying the wood stocked one and selling the scope and rings for the difference in price. There is a gunshop in Texas that sells trigger springs that reduce trigger pull and with a little polish the factory trigger isn't bad.

 

[luv2safari]

Nikon no longer makes scopes.

Unfrost your Cinnabon, and just buy the combo, take the scope and rings off, and put em up for sale on the gun club board, or donate them to your local 4-H Shooting sports.
Heck conveniently 'forget' them on the rifle range if you want. You're not punishing Savage with your decision, just yourself.

I wasn't too particularly thrilled with the Bushnell that came on my .223 Axis, but I at least went out and shot it, and it's still on there. Eventually I'll put nicer glass and a chassis stock on it. But for the $29 the setup cost me as is, I'm not in a huge hurry. It far outperforms any other gun, or scope for that matter, I bought in that price range.

I don't want the scope. I don't want to have to mess with selling it, and I hate Cinnabons. You're solutions aren't mine.

I have plenty of decent scopes languishing and have absolutely no use for the one on gun. And, we have no 4-H shooting sports groups here, nor any other junior shooting organizations.

I object to the added cost of an accessory I'll never use, and I could care less about "punishing" Savage. I like the company as a rule and wish them well.

 

[3Crows]

You will just have to purchase something else . I would just suggest circular filing the scope and rings then. Basically the scope and rings are free if you compare prices on combos verses bare. But whatever make a fellow happy. Give the scope to a local youngster. Donate it, throw it in the trash. The only scope I have ever had to survive on top of a magnum spring air rifle is one of those cheapo combo scopes. It has destroyed even expensive springer rated scopes.

 

[LoonWulf]

If your looking cheap with wood, the Patriots do that well and the new Stevens 334 offers wood.
If you really want an Axis in walnut, lemme ask my ffl buddy where he found the one he offered me a while ago, i dont remember which distributor he was getting it from.

 

[Howland937]

I don't mind combos at all, if the rifle's at a price I'm ok with. I just don't pay extra for a rifle that has a scope already on it, new or used (unless the scope is worth significant $ ). I also know that when I'm selling, that $40 "free" scope I can throw in to sweeten a deal seals it for some people. So I'll take all the scopes people wanna give me.

So keep looking til you find the right rifle for the price of one without a scope.

 

[sage5907]

I hate them to, even if the scope is a good one good chance it's not the brand you like the power you need and not mounted how you like. For a hunting rifle I've always had a minimum priced scope that I would even bother with, was nikon pro staff for years and not is the Burris ff2. Wouldn't touch anything cheaper for hunting.

Hello troy fairweather, I'm using this post to get your attention. There is a 7 mm 08 barrel for sale on eBay you need to take a look at. It's only 20 inches long but a good buy for your action. It may be something you can use. Sorry, it doesn't come with a cheap scope.

 

[InTheSwamp]

"I Hate Rifle "Combos"!"

So, do I. Never bought one.

 

[3Crows]

Never?

Even for $59.95?

 

[CptnAwesome]

As long as it holds zero, it's worth it to me. But ...

I've bought plenty of rifle scope combos, but none with the intent of keeping the scope. I've seen combos that come with Vortex Crossfire scopes. Haven't bought one but I'd consider keeping the scope on one of those.

Reminds me of a Remington 700 BDM Wood Tech combo I bought years ago from Bass Pro that had a scope with no markings .

After handling I wanted the rifle but didn't like the scope. I asked the lady behind the counter "what brand scope is this?" Her response was "I don't know but it's a good scope "....

Replaced with a Leupold.

I put the no name scope on a muzzleloader I had recently purchased. Held zero for about 7yrs before it started fogging up.

 

[jmorris]

SO, I won't buy the new rifle. I'll try to find one used without their scope.

This kind of force-it-down-your-throat marketing frosts my cinnamon roll.

Sounds like they won't force it down your throat. If there were more like you, than people that just bought the combos, they wouldn't be as common.

I generally don't just walk into stores and buy guns though. I order what I want and then go get it, once it gets there.

 

[Hugger-4641]

Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending how you look at, we here at THR are not the typical combo buyers. New shooters /hunters or at least inexperienced ones, are probably the major market for these. That’s not such a bad thing to offer a functional, if not ideal, scope and rifle combo that's almost off the shelf ready to go.
I've had a few Axis Xp and Axis II, still have a couple, and none of them have the scope that came with them. The originals were all sold or given away. Wasn't a big deal.

 

[jmorris]

Along that note, I sighted in an Academy Mossberg for one of the wife's friends a few years ago, it shot MOA at a 100 with the ammunition he had. It was a combo, that evening or the next he shot a sow through the ear, DRT and probably last time its been shot...

I was glad to sight it in and even more impressed that it was important to him and did it after explaining it would be best for the user to do it...

 

[35 Whelen]

I bought a Savage Axis II combo with some Cabela's cards points I had. I have no use for high magnification scopes that sit high on a rifle nor the flimsy plastic stock. So I had a new Burris 2-7X scope under my gunsmithing bench, dug around in my crap and found some rings, splurged for a Boyd's stock and voila'...

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[Highland Lofts]

I've bought several used rifle/scope guns, pulled the good scope off and put a cheap scope back on and get all of my money back and some times even more.
I'll take rifle/scope combos if I want one or the other.

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

My stainless Axis came from Walmart without a scope--it now wears a Leupold 3x9x40 Rifleman--which also came from Walmart.

 

[Barmcd]

I dislike it too I bought a Savage 6.5 CM with a pretty good Vortex scope on it, but I had a Luepold 5HD I wanted to mount. The Vortex has been sitting in the cabinet for years, but I can’t bring myself to sell it.

 

[DustyGmt]

I feel like I was seeing alot of Ruger Americans and Savage Axis' like back in 2015 when they were competing hard and you could get a really good deal on both. Anyways if I recall correctly you could get em scoped for like $269 or unscoped for $239.

Not sure how it is now, I picked up an unscoped stainless compact American for $500. Feel like I over payed for the compact stainless since the scoped blued Americans were $300. Are the Axis' still in that same price range?

Eta: Autocorrect turned "Unscoped" to "Unscheduled".

 

[mgmorden]

I feel like I was seeing alot of Ruger Americans and Savage Axis' like back in 2015 when they were competing hard and you could get a really good deal on both. Anyways if I recall correctly you could get em scoped for like $269 or unscheduled for $239.

Not sure how it is now, I picked up an unscoped stainless compact American for $500. Feel like I over payed for the compact stainless since the scoped blued Americans were $300. Are the Axis' still in that same price range?

No, like everything they've gone up. The baseline Axis tends to go for around $350-400 now and the American around $425 or so. At least new. Obviously prices will vary on used ones.

 

[DustyGmt]

No, like everything they've gone up. The baseline Axis tends to go for around $350-400 now and the American around $425 or so. At least new. Obviously prices will vary on used ones.

I wondered about that, I was curious about the price of the Axis. I tried the AXIS and the Ruger American and the Remington 770 and I actually didn't even try the 770. The Axis was very nice but the Ruger was much better IMO, not just accuracy wise but altogether. I just liked the stainless compact and was willing to pay gor it but had Savage offered the same thing, it'd have been a coin flip