I want to get a "CLASSIC" 30-06 hunting rifle with a nice wood stock.
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Europeans assemble some nice rifles. Why not?
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I did that and came home with a Winchester. It's nice to shoulder the weapon and get off a shot almost instantly with reticle centered at what one is looking at. Many don't realize but gun fit is more important in rifle than in a shotgun when quick shooting is required.
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"Classic" is a subjective word, means different things to different people. I myself prefer mausers that I either build or modify myself to my own tastes and vision of 'classic' styling.
I don't personally think any 700 Rem is a classic or a Ruger 77.
Some of mine I built or modified:
Swedish Mauser build:
Bavarian style german mauser I pieced together, reblued and refinished the stock:
Another german mauser, all I had to do to this one was a reblue:
I don't personally think any 700 Rem is a classic or a Ruger 77.
Some of mine I built or modified:
Swedish Mauser build:
Bavarian style german mauser I pieced together, reblued and refinished the stock:
Another german mauser, all I had to do to this one was a reblue:
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And finally my current project that is still in the works. 1909 Argentine Mauser receiver, new Shilen 30-06 barrel, nice classic style stock with decent figure (checkering still taped off{the blue tape} ), custom sling swivel studs, glass bedded, expresss style rear irons and hooded front ramp irons, I still need to blue it, finish the wood work and get the triggerguard, scope rings, and bolt shroud back from being color case hardened.
redneck2
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This thread is great, just to look at the way cool rifles. I need another rifle like I need a bad rash, but it makes you want to start looking
Shanghai McCoy
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That nice older mannlicher stocked mauser that Willie Sutton posted is starting to "haunt" me. (Or is it taunt..?)
New mantra-I have enough rifles, I don't need another.
And repeat...
New mantra-I have enough rifles, I don't need another.
And repeat...
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^^ Race you to it! I just sent the seller a note to secure it.
It will join a full stock G33-40 lightweight Mauser carbine in (get this) .338 Win Mag (!!) with ghost ring rear sight as well as a claw mount scope, and a custom built Krag .33-40 carbine in a full length stock that I had built up about twenty years ago for Pennsylvania whitetail hunting.
That Mauser is an absolute beauty. $795? That's a steal.
I feel a rant coming on.... trying to suppress it... don't DO it Willie... Ack!! TOO LATE!!
<Begin Willies Rant-Mode Here>
Can you *imagine* buying a new Portuguese Winchester, or a Japanese Browing, or (gack..) an investment cast Ruger with the insulting "Warning, this is a dangerous rifle, idiots should write the factory for an instruction manual" engraved on the side and thinking you have a "Classic" when finely crafted, hand-built *beautiful* rifles like it are available for the cost of hunting them down?
And there are *thousands* of similar rifles sitting on shelves due to the American tradition of thinking that the best things come new in a cardboard box. Fom Walmart.
The lack of sophistication of the majority of American rifle buyers is absolutely unbelievable. It never fails to amaze me. If it were me running things, reading both Jim Carmichael's "Book of the Rifle" and Steven Bodio's book "Good Guns" for comprehension would be a reguirement before being permitted to buy a bolt action rifle and calling it a classic...
<Exit Willies Rant-Mode Here>
There. I feel better now.
This humor-break has been brought to you as a public service announcement by "Willie's 4-B Campaign for Bringing Better Bangsticks to Bubba".
Seriously:
Suggestion to the OP: Buy and read both of the above before you buy a rifle. It'll be an enormous education. Truly. You'll know more than 99% of the populace about rifles, and will be making better choices. The difference between a guy with a GOOD rifle and one with an adequate cookie-cutter one is knowlage. All that takes is some study. Start with the above two books and you'll be off and running.
Willie
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It will join a full stock G33-40 lightweight Mauser carbine in (get this) .338 Win Mag (!!) with ghost ring rear sight as well as a claw mount scope, and a custom built Krag .33-40 carbine in a full length stock that I had built up about twenty years ago for Pennsylvania whitetail hunting.
That Mauser is an absolute beauty. $795? That's a steal.
I feel a rant coming on.... trying to suppress it... don't DO it Willie... Ack!! TOO LATE!!
<Begin Willies Rant-Mode Here>
Can you *imagine* buying a new Portuguese Winchester, or a Japanese Browing, or (gack..) an investment cast Ruger with the insulting "Warning, this is a dangerous rifle, idiots should write the factory for an instruction manual" engraved on the side and thinking you have a "Classic" when finely crafted, hand-built *beautiful* rifles like it are available for the cost of hunting them down?
And there are *thousands* of similar rifles sitting on shelves due to the American tradition of thinking that the best things come new in a cardboard box. Fom Walmart.
The lack of sophistication of the majority of American rifle buyers is absolutely unbelievable. It never fails to amaze me. If it were me running things, reading both Jim Carmichael's "Book of the Rifle" and Steven Bodio's book "Good Guns" for comprehension would be a reguirement before being permitted to buy a bolt action rifle and calling it a classic...
<Exit Willies Rant-Mode Here>
There. I feel better now.
This humor-break has been brought to you as a public service announcement by "Willie's 4-B Campaign for Bringing Better Bangsticks to Bubba".
Seriously:
Suggestion to the OP: Buy and read both of the above before you buy a rifle. It'll be an enormous education. Truly. You'll know more than 99% of the populace about rifles, and will be making better choices. The difference between a guy with a GOOD rifle and one with an adequate cookie-cutter one is knowlage. All that takes is some study. Start with the above two books and you'll be off and running.
Willie
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Shanghai McCoy
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Thank You Willie for buying that rifle .
I will now go down to the gunsafe and apologize to my Mark X for having had impure and lustful thoughts about that pretty fraulein ...
I will now go down to the gunsafe and apologize to my Mark X for having had impure and lustful thoughts about that pretty fraulein ...
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^^
Time to trade in that Slavic Unterwaffe for a purebred Aryan Uberwaffe? Nobody would blame ya...
It'll be waiting for me when I get home. $850 delivered. Now all I need to do to perfect it is to find a set of old Suhler claw mounts with a vintage scope for it. A little silver solder and she would be set. Drilling and tappling? How crude. Correctly attached claw mount bases are silver brazed on. Remove them and reblue and there's no hole left behind. Typical German elegence and functionality. I need to stop responding to threads like this. Every one seems to cost me a spot in the safe.
Seriously, about your Mauser: Mark-X's properly stocked are great. Interarms seems to have imported most of them during the great "glossy stock and monte-carlo comb" era, but there are exceptions. I still mourn whatever stupidity caused me to sell my Churchill Mark-X in .375 H&H. I should be shot for my stupidity on that deal. I still cringe every time I see one.
Willie
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Time to trade in that Slavic Unterwaffe for a purebred Aryan Uberwaffe? Nobody would blame ya...
It'll be waiting for me when I get home. $850 delivered. Now all I need to do to perfect it is to find a set of old Suhler claw mounts with a vintage scope for it. A little silver solder and she would be set. Drilling and tappling? How crude. Correctly attached claw mount bases are silver brazed on. Remove them and reblue and there's no hole left behind. Typical German elegence and functionality. I need to stop responding to threads like this. Every one seems to cost me a spot in the safe.
Seriously, about your Mauser: Mark-X's properly stocked are great. Interarms seems to have imported most of them during the great "glossy stock and monte-carlo comb" era, but there are exceptions. I still mourn whatever stupidity caused me to sell my Churchill Mark-X in .375 H&H. I should be shot for my stupidity on that deal. I still cringe every time I see one.
Willie
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Shanghai McCoy
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^^^ Aryan Uberwaffe... good one.
My MK X has a very nice , un glossy oil finished walnut, classic style stock and the Whitworth barrel with the front sling stud mounted on the barrel. It is very accurate and too nice for the deer woods around here but I take her out anyway.
My MK X has a very nice , un glossy oil finished walnut, classic style stock and the Whitworth barrel with the front sling stud mounted on the barrel. It is very accurate and too nice for the deer woods around here but I take her out anyway.
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^^ Beautiful example, I'm sure! That's the same model I stupidly sold. What caliber?
Some Slavs *are* darned pretty. Duly noting that Ms. Willie hails from Czech-Land....
Willie
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Some Slavs *are* darned pretty. Duly noting that Ms. Willie hails from Czech-Land....
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Shanghai McCoy
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Willie,
The caliber is 30-06. I bought it from a guy out in New Mexico bout 20+ years ago.
The caliber is 30-06. I bought it from a guy out in New Mexico bout 20+ years ago.
headoftheholler,And finally my current project that is still in the works. 1909 Argentine Mauser receiver, new Shilen 30-06 barrel, nice classic style stock with decent figure (checkering still taped off{the blue tape} ), custom sling swivel studs, glass bedded, expresss style rear irons and hooded front ramp irons, I still need to blue it, finish the wood work and get the triggerguard, scope rings, and bolt shroud back from being color case hardened.
Your work is always outstanding. I look forward to seeing photos of that current project when it's completed. Love the stock, both the wood and the shape.
Badlander
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Classic JC Higgins 30-06. Mauser. 1950 I think. This one was in an attic for 45 years. They are out there. Keep looking.
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^^ That's exactly the type of sleeper I was speaking of. *Nobody* goes out and seeks a JC Higgins: Except guys that know that they are really a Sears-Sold Commercial FN Mausers... one of the nicest rifles ever built.
Beautiful example. I'm jealous!
Willie
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Beautiful example. I'm jealous!
Willie
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Shanghai McCoy
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You have to be a certain age to even remember that Sears used to sell guns.
That rifle is a very good example of how nice a bargain gun was back then. Good find !
That rifle is a very good example of how nice a bargain gun was back then. Good find !
Fella's;
Last time I looked, there was one of those "Ted Williams" Mausers in the used rack at Big Bear Sports, Great Falls Montana. Price didn't strike me as being too bad either. However, since the bolt poked outta the cheap, common, everyday, side of the action I didn't pay it a great deal of attention either.
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Last time I looked, there was one of those "Ted Williams" Mausers in the used rack at Big Bear Sports, Great Falls Montana. Price didn't strike me as being too bad either. However, since the bolt poked outta the cheap, common, everyday, side of the action I didn't pay it a great deal of attention either.
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Yeah, since the budget precludes Cooper, definitely Win 70 Featherweight or CZ 550 (American, FS, or ??)
Although the Savage 14 has a nice stock for the price... though I don't care for the looks of the Savage action (personal preference thing).
Although the Savage 14 has a nice stock for the price... though I don't care for the looks of the Savage action (personal preference thing).
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and wait a sec - I was pretty sure my new Winchester 70s were made in South Carolina, not Portugal - no?
az_imuth
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Depends on when it was made. The M70 Super Grade I bought in 2010 was made at the FN plant in Columbia, SC. Seems pretty certain that more recent models have been sent to Portugal for assembly, but I'm a little unclear as to where they are actually manufactured.
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2013 was the last year M70's were built entirely in the FN plant in SC.
Willie - you're right about the current M70's not being 'classics'. But were pre-'64's considered 'classics' in 1939? 1950? 1963? I wasn't there, but somehow I doubt it. It seems to me that the new production M70's have been very well received. In 50 years, people may very well feel about them the same way they feel about pre-'64's today. They certainly look, feel and shoot well enough.
That being said, I'm looking to get into a nice pre-'64 or 2 myself. And a nice 7x57 barreled Mauser or commercial FN action in a Mannlicher stock would have me pulling out my wallet so fast....
Willie - you're right about the current M70's not being 'classics'. But were pre-'64's considered 'classics' in 1939? 1950? 1963? I wasn't there, but somehow I doubt it. It seems to me that the new production M70's have been very well received. In 50 years, people may very well feel about them the same way they feel about pre-'64's today. They certainly look, feel and shoot well enough.
That being said, I'm looking to get into a nice pre-'64 or 2 myself. And a nice 7x57 barreled Mauser or commercial FN action in a Mannlicher stock would have me pulling out my wallet so fast....
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I currently own six Model 70's , three Pre- War and three pre 1960's.
My personal feelings are that has NEVER been a factory rifle EVER made to compare with the Model 70's produced from 1936 to roughly the mid 60's.
THEN, things went to garbage starting with "free floating" barrels etc.
What caused the demise?
Don't EVEN attempt to get me started!
By the way, my Pre-War 70's are now collector's items and they no longer get carried into Penn's woods.
However, my original, topped with a 4X Redfield has accounted for 33 Pa bucks over the years.
My personal feelings are that has NEVER been a factory rifle EVER made to compare with the Model 70's produced from 1936 to roughly the mid 60's.
THEN, things went to garbage starting with "free floating" barrels etc.
What caused the demise?
Don't EVEN attempt to get me started!
By the way, my Pre-War 70's are now collector's items and they no longer get carried into Penn's woods.
However, my original, topped with a 4X Redfield has accounted for 33 Pa bucks over the years.
jakk280rem
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I spotted a Ruger No. 1 with a full stock in 30-06 Friday in a local pawn shop. Hard to beat a Mannlicher stock for classic.
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