If Savage starting making the 99 would you buy it?

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That is the worst answer I have ever seen to the appropriate cautious inquiry "So, why are you selling this gun?"


He was selling me this gun and later one he sold me a few more because he was very sick and dying. His son didnt want any of his collection and he knew I would take care of his guns.
 
I have yet to see a used Savage 99 in .308 that meets my discriminating tastes. If I did, i would buy it. Since I have yet to see one, it would be nice for Savage to start making them again, but only if they didn't cut any corners in making it.
 
The Savage 99 required a lot of hand fitting of parts, and that made the cost of production so high that the profit margins became too small to sustain the model in the lineup.

When the competition can sell a gun for 80% of your retail price, that performs as well as your product, you have to reduce your production costs. That is why the quality fell off over the last decade of production; Savage was trying to keep the 99 alive - they even had them manufactured overseas in an effort to reduce the cost to a point where they could make a profit at the market price the competition set.

As the quality dropped, so did the demand, and the 99 was eliminated due to market forces. The Savage 99 would probably cost $2000 to produce today with decent quality, and not many hunters want to pay that much for a deer, elk or bear hunting gun.

The design is generally not capable of the accuracy most people expect today - My model 99 in .308Win will shoot into a 1.5 inch group at 100 yards, using a solid bench rest and a 6 power scope, but that may be the exception rather than the rule when it comes to accuracy of the model 99.

If I had $750 to spend on a hunting rifle, and I knew that rifle was capable of 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards using standard factory ammo in several different loads, I would then consider other characteristics of the rifle. Style, weight, handiness, fit to the shooter, quality and reliability of the gun, reputation and service record of the manufacturer, etc. I like the Savage model 99; it feels good, balances well, fits me well. I would gladly pay $750 for a new Savage model 99 in a different hunting caliber, provided the accuracy, reliability and quality were on par with other rifles available on the market.

I do not think that Savage can actually make and sell the model 99 at a competitive price. That means that people that want to use them will buy used from previous owners, and they are now collectors items, so the prices of used guns are climbing above the level most hunters are willing to pay for a gun that will get wet, scratched and banged around in the field.
 
If the Savage 99 was built again would you buy one and what calibers would you like to see it in?
My dad killed a tiger in Sumatra with a 99 Savage in .250-3000. Later in Ethopia, he killed a lion, a cheetah, a kudu and many other head of big game -- but he sold the rifle!

I would buy a 99 Savage -- if it had the rotary magazine and the cartridge counter. I'd prefer a .308 as my first choice and a .358 as my second purchase -- and a .250-3000 with a tip of the hat to my dad.
 
They were expensive to manufacture. Maybe they could be priced competitively if made by Howa, Miroku or some other overseas outfit. I like the tang-mounted safety and the rotary magazine on my 99 "Brush" gun chambered in .358 Winchester. Deer don't travel far when hit in the right place with a 200 grain SilverTip.
 
If copies of the Winchester 97 and 95 can be built and sold.
A new 99 built on CNC machines should be possible.
I have A 1946 vintage .300 Savage that is just out of MOA, but it never shifts its zero. Been trouble free.
 
One of Many, outstanding post!

There are some nice things about the Savage, always liked the rotary magazine. When I could get a Savage 99 I just did not see why I would want a lever action rifle over a bolt. Maybe there is some sort of a speed advantage, but I work the bolt from the shoulder and practice rapid fire at every High power match. If I want to go faster, gas gun is the route.

The lever action is a dated design concept. It is just hanging on by the fingernails.
 
Vern's dad was a bad-ass.

Sure Teddy smacked lions with a .405 Winchester, but Vern's dad did it with a Savage 99. Cool. And I'm NOT being ironic.

I never liked the strange look of the rifle or the (to me) weak attachment of the stock to the frame with one long bolt, but a lot of people swear by them. If Vern's dad's rifle came up for sale I'd consider buying it, just to trade/give/sell to Vern, thats a heck of a history!
 
If Vern's dad's rifle came up for sale I'd consider buying it, just to trade/give/sell to Vern, thats a heck of a history!
If I ever find it, I'll give you a call.

He had the same rifle when working on the Marunion River in Venezuela (he was a doodlebugger -- oil exploration) during the Motoloni Indian uprising in the '40s. I can truthfully say my grandfather drove a covered wagon across the plains (from Nebraska to Oklahoma for the Land Rush at the age of 14), my dad was born in a log cabin and lived through an indian uprising.
 
Uncle Mike wrote: "oooo yes, in a heart beat! .250-3000

You know how they say hind sight is 20/20, well I must be blind!
had a chance to own one of those fine works of art and passed it up. Stupid!"


Don't feel too bad, I had a Mod 99 Takedown in .250-3000 and sold it in the late 70's. I'm still kicking myself.
 
Considering all the places that rifle went Vern, there might be an import/export record with the serial # somewhere, just a thought.
 
I paid him a measly $300 which was much more than fair

For whom?

Anyway, if quality was high, and price was reasonable (less than $1K), or I was blessed with more money than sense, I'd love one in .250 Savage.

John
 
Savage 99 - the best deer rifle of all time?

I would buy a new one in a heart-beat and spend my savings for it. On a few conditions: It is made the same way as the post-war models with case-color-hardened lever, strengthened actions and in .250 or .300 Savage. I believe that they stopped making them because of the costly machining for the action/lever which made it hard to compete with sub-$600 bolt-actions. I believe that they have found it easy to sell their centennial models (model 14) in .300 Savage so finding buyers for a new '99 should be easy, especially in a limited run.
 
I had a 99 chambered in 250-3000 back in the mid 60's. I had it d&T for a scope and it shot quite well but the lever lock up was a little springy and I stretched a few brass loading varmint bullets for it. I foolishly sold it, and eventually ended up with a Rem 40XB in 22-250, a truly amazing varmint gun.
I think a Savage 99 made today might be prohibitively expensive with the machining and hand fitting required. Perhaps the new era machining techniques could keep costs down


NCsmitty
 
I would buy one if it had a old school rotary mag and bullet counter. With modern CNC machining Savage could build the 99 again and make a good profit.

I understand the wisdom of dropping the 99 and focusing on the bolt 110 line. Doing so saved the company but now would be a good time to bring it back.
 
Savage did make a centennial model, the 99 CE in .300 Savage. It came in a fitted wooden case. Mine is unfired and the only 99 I've ever had. I've been thinking of getting one to shoot, preferably a .250. A new one in .257 Roberts would be nice.
 

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