If this was your rifle

Jeff olson

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View attachment 1125297 View attachment 1125298 View attachment 1125299 View attachment 1125300 View attachment 1125301 View attachment 1125302 View attachment 1125303 View attachment 1125304 View attachment 1125305 View attachment 1125306 I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum. I'm looking for opinions and insight into this gun. K31 Swiss. 7.5x55. Has the issue tag behind butt plate. I'm considering trading this rifle but I have no idea of a fair value. It is all matching except the bayonet. I have looked at completed sales on GB but none have a serial # this low or in similar condition. Does have import marks. Thanx in advance.

KEEP IT YOU'LL REGRET IT IF YOU TRADE IT OR SELL IT!!! That is the nicest one I've ever seen.
 
I'd keep it too!

I follow the FB Swiss Rifle Collector's forum,

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1549413198641951

... but I'll admit that I don't know enough about Swiss bayonets to know how much this particular bayonet will enhance its total value. The matching SN on the magazine is a plus. I cannot say whether the stock has the original finish or a very good refinish. If it is unrefinished, that buttstock appears exceptional -- the Swiss took great care of their service arms except for the buttstock area, which is almost inevitably dinged and dented.

I tend to use Simpsons as my litmus for realistic current Swiss values. Other dealers like Edelweiss seem to exaggerate prices:

https://simpsonltd.com/long-guns/military-rifles/swiss/
 
That's the nicest one I've ever seen. I think the finish on the wood is original. Notice the finish on the wood is pristine and unblemished, just like the metal. Look at the last pic.. A refinished stock would not fit flush with the wood. The entire gun appears to be almost new.
 
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And this man works in a gun museum!
Well, I used to... Lol. The Arsenal museum has been closed for nearly three years because of covid and renovation. It should re-open around July 4th . Then I'll be back to work.

To address the subject, we had no Swiss rifles in the Museum, but I have seen row after row of these rifles at Simpson's, back when they were $150. I have never seen one that looked brand new, like this one. Looking at the Simpson's website, I see a lot of nice K-31s ...but nothing to compare to this one. And the really nice ones reach four figures in price. The stock finish on the OPs gun matches the guns at Simpson's That finish is original
 
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If that was my rifle I would brag about to Mike Burns (of Bloke on the Range fame) endlessly.
And rue the fact that Swiss GP-11 is not at all common in the US (which Mike could lord over me :) )
I'd probably have to own a full set of Alpinflage too :) Which could only be worn over a span of perhaps 4 weeks of Texas' weather :)
 
I truly appreciate everyone's reply. A local guy has a nib Weatherby mk xxii. A Nikko magazine fed version. It's beautiful with the original Weatherby scope. I'm really on the fence. Problem is he won't just sell it outright. He's an as$&*#@ that way.
 
I truly appreciate everyone's reply. A local guy has a nib Weatherby mk xxii. A Nikko magazine fed version. It's beautiful with the original Weatherby scope. I'm really on the fence. Problem is he won't just sell it outright. He's an as$&*#@ that way.
Tell him to sell it outright, for an honest price, or go to hell. And then walk away. I'm telling you now, that there is not much difference in the value of that K-31, and that Weatherby. One is N.I.B. and the other would be if you had a box to put it in. If he laughs at you direct him to the Simpson's link that Dave posted. High conditioned K-31 are going for four figures. I'm talking 95-96% guns. Yours looks like a 99% gun, easily. Are you sure that it has ever, even been fired?

I mean, what kind of a deal does this guy want? If he expects you to give him that K-31, and a lot of cash on top of that then he is a highway robber. And if you take a deal like that you will regret it, because ten years from now that K-31 will have appreciated faster than that Weatherby. And here is why: The market for a N.I.B Weatherby Mk 22 is pretty much limited to Weatherby lovers and collectors. The gun is just too expensive. The average guy looking for a .22 auto will just buy something cheaper, like a 10-22. The market for high conditioned milsurps is serviced by a much larger pool of potential buyers. Military collectors drool and dream at night about finding pristine, near new or actually new pieces. Some collectors specialize in rifles, or pistols, or WWII guns, or a certain countries guns or...you get the idea. But all of them will usually jump at the chance to grab a high conditioned, near new specimen regardless of who made it.

Here's another thing to consider: What class of guns seems to have appreciated the fastest in the last few years? That's right, milsurps. Remember those $99 Nagants? Or the $99 SKSs? The $79 Nagant revolvers? Average K-31s used to be $129. This was just a few years ago. Look at the prices now! And a pristine near new (or actually new) K-31 will appreciate faster than average. High conditioned guns always do.

If you don't keep that gun, at least make sure you get a good deal for it.
 
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I knew a guy that had a super, super rare muscle car. Extremely low miles. He would push it out of the garage twice a year, start it in the driveway just to keep the engine loose. Then he would wash it, prop open the door so it wouldn’t accidentally roll down. Push the car back in and cover it up.

After doing this for a number of years, he sold it because he wasn’t able to enjoy the car. Got something he could actually drive.

Personally, if the rifle is something i can’t enjoy using or don’t want to shoot, it will go away for something I will use. I see no value in holding onto a chunk of wood and steel because it may increase $200 in ten years. $200 is nothing in today’s world. Buys you two tanks of gas. Buying an unfired firearm then never using it makes as much sense as marrying a gorgeous woman and never sleeping with her because you want to keep her untouched
 
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