Ignorant one wants to know, FTF?

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What does FTF stand for? I know for a fact that private sales of firearms are legal in Oregon, no problem, so I'm looking at sale forums and folks say "FTF".

I hope this isn't the wrong area.
 
Since I haven't been booted out for asking that, how do people ensure for conscience sake that they are selling to someone legally able to buy and not a criminal? I am thinking "Show me your drivers license but cover your name", "Are you legally able to buy a firearm in the state?", "Can I see your CC Permit?".
I guess what I'm saying is I don't want records if I don't need them, I think a bill of sale is nice in case they get stopped, but If I sold a gun I wouldn't want big brother to be able to follow any train any way at all. I want also to reassure the buyer that I'm the legal owner, I'd be willing to show my permit in that case, would that suffice?

Dilemma.
 
If its legal in your state then its not your problem. A simple "are you a felon?" will cover most sales. The law needs to be placed on the shoulders of THE CRIMINAL !!!!!!! not the law abiding citizen.
 
If its legal in your state then its not your problem. A simple "are you a felon?" will cover most sales. The law needs to be placed on the shoulders of THE CRIMINAL !!!!!!! not the law abiding citizen.

Works in Indiana.

RH
 
I've heard Failure to fire, failure to feed, and even face to face. I think it is most commonly asserted with failure to fire.
 
Face-to-face, private sale.

I recently bought a Winchester from a feller, and he just wanted a bill of sale. And he was an FBI agent, the transaction happened in his office! Much to my surprise.....

Helluva nice guy though, and a dang nice .44 carbine.
 
1. Bill of sale to CYA. Should have the date sold, make/model/serial number of gun, how much it was sold for or given as gift, name of person sold to. They sign it, you keep it.

2. They might desire the same from you as a receipt for their money.

3. The law does not make it illegal to sell to a prohibited person. The law makes it illegal for you to sell to a person that you know or have reasonable belief to be a prohibited person. So, ask for driver's license - why the name covered up? - that way you have reasonable proof of their name and state of residence. If you want to ask, are you prohibited in any way from possessing a firearm, you can. In Oregon, to the best of my knowledge, there is no minimum requirement for proof of eligibility in a private sale, so it's up to "the man" to prove that you knew or had cause to believe they were prohibited when you sold the gun to them. The bill of sale will also CYA in this regard, if the person was prohibited, then why in the world would they make a written "confession" of their receipt of a firearm by signing a bill of sale?
 
I have bought and sold numerous firearms from friends, aquaintances and through the paper with only CASH ! No unecessary questions or little pieces of paper to complicate things. Money talks !
I do have some moral obligations to myself but that is where it ends. If I buy a gun from a felon, COOL ! I just kept his butt out of prison. If I am a felon buying FTF and get caught I EXPECT TO BE GOING TO THE PENITENTARY FOR A LONG TIME !

I also believe that the "felon prohibited from owning a firearm" law is too broad. If you have payed your debt to society, you should have your rights fully restored. Most situations........
 
In NC private FTF sales still require the buyer to have a purchase permit; however i'm not sure what the seller being a private citizen would do with it. However there it is; that's the law.
 
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