(IL) Rocker challenges governor to backstage debate at fair

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Rocker challenges governor to backstage debate at fair
Ted Nugent doesn't like our state's gun laws

By NICK ROGERS
ARTS & ENTERTAINMENT WRITER

Look out, Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Ted Nugent might want to put you in a political stranglehold.

Speaking from an airport in Minneapolis Tuesday, the singer and guitar player - known nearly as well for his pro-gun views as for such tunes as "Cat Scratch Fever" and "The Great White Buffalo" - said he would like to meet the governor backstage prior to his Aug. 11 performance at the Illinois State Fair.

"I welcome him," Nugent said. "In fact, you know what? I challenge him to come backstage. And let's talk 'We the people,' let's talk good over evil, let's talk laws forcing good people to be unarmed and helpless."

Nugent said he's most offended by what he called the governor's "refusal to stand up for the Second Amendment."

Nugent's main complaint appears to be with Illinois gun laws that bar retired police officers, as well as active officers visiting from other states, from carrying concealed weapons. However, it's not clear that Blagojevich has ever taken a position on the issue.

"How in God's green earth can a governor not allow retired professional heroes of law enforcement to carry guns?" Nugent asked. "There's no answer for that. Any attempt to answer that question would expose a person for the buffoon he is.

"It angers ... people that know when you disarm great, great trained men and women that all it does is facilitate the offenses of evil people.â€

A bill that would have allowed retired officers to carry concealed firearms did not make it through the legislature this year. Because the bill never made it to Blagojevich’s desk, his stand on the issue is unknown.

The Blagojevich administration declined Thursday to comment on Nugent’s remarks.

“There are some states that do allow that,†Laimutis Nargelenas, manager of government relations for the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police, said of allowing retired or out-of-state officers to carry concealed weapons. “And presently in Congress, there is a bill that would allow that nationwide. (The state bill) passed a Senate committee but got held up on the Senate floor.â€

Nargelenas added that officers visiting from other states can carry concealed weapons only as part of an official police investigation.

Nugent also took offense at Illinois’ longstanding requirement that a person must obtain a Firearms Owners Identification card before buying a gun.

“You know the two places in the world where a citizen has to have a gun owner’s ID card?†he said. “Illinois and Cuba. That’s embarrassing.â€

Other states have their own codes for gun owners, but Illinois is the only state requiring an identification card, according to the Firearm Services Bureau of the Illinois State Police.

While it remains to be seen whether Blagojevich and Nugent’s meeting will happen, Nugent offered to make sure the governor won’t go home hungry.

“I’ll buy him an elephant ear and a dose of truth,†he said.

http://www.sj-r.com/sections/news/stories/2413.asp
 
Somehow I don't think he'll be asked to preform again next year. Besides Rod Bolshevik would have to leave Chicago and actually spend some time in Springfield for a debate.

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Nugent's main complaint appears to be with Illinois gun laws that bar retired police officers, as well as active officers visiting from other states, from carrying concealed weapons.

I'm actually not real thrilled by this myself. How about _real_ CCW, for _anyone_ who qualifies, not just cops, ex-cops and cronies of Hizzoner.
 
Someone posted something very interesting that bears repeating here:

The reason why shall-issue CCW would be very hard to pass in places like IL, NY, etc, is the cops there, even the retired cops, get clearence to carry. It takes every LEO out of the support for CCW. A lot of cops in a lot of states that have passed CCW laws usually wanted to have them pass due to the fact that they wouldn't be active duty all the time, and they wanted their family to have the same right.
 
Lonnie, I think you're missing some important information. Nugent's point is that officers are NOT allowed to carry here unless active. Retired officers, out of state officers, etc. are subject to the same laws as you or I.

Nugent, as we all know, does not believe that only police should be allowed to carry. He obviously believes that talking about the most extreme parts of the carry prohibition here will be better received. To the average person, there is at minimum room for debate as to whether any private citizen should ever be allowed to carry a gun (and as to whether carrying a gun is a good idea, which to the average person is the same question.) Ask that same person if they'd prefer that police officers be allowed to carry when out of uniform, and you get a different answer.
 
CA ccw & LEO's

here in Frisco & in LA if you have a ccw you can get a good
gig getting 30$ an hr for "executive security"
So the cops keep ccw for themselves.
 
You think you`re gonna make $30 an hour if you have a CCW? Think again. The cops are paid for who they know, not for the gun.
 
Governor won’t speak with rocker Nugent
By Matt Adrian

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SPRINGFIELD — Governor Rod Blagojevich turned down an opportunity to debate Illinois’ gun control laws with rock star Ted Nugent Monday night before his grandstand show at the Illinois State Fair.
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“We’ve got other things going. We appreciate his interest. But maybe next time,†Blagojevich said Monday afternoon.
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Nugent said his wish to debate Blagojevich has been misrepresented by the media. Nugent discussed the issue during a telephone interview late Monday afternoon as he waited to catch a plane to the Illinois State Fair.
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“I’ve seen quotes around words that didn’t come out of my mouth,†Nugent said.
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Nugent said he often meets politicians and law enforcement officers backstage to discuss issues ranging from gun control to conservation issues.
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“I talk to politicians because they work for you and me,†Nugent said. “I’m just a guitar player, but I’m driven to do the best that I can and it’s the same in my civic duty.â€
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Nugent, an advocate of guns rights, has sold over 30 million albums and is also the author of the New York Times best-selling book, “God, Guns and Rock ‘n’ Roll,†and the recently-released cookbook “Kill It and Grill It.â€
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Nugent said he wanted to raise concerns about Illinois law that prohibits retired law enforcement officers from carrying a firearm.
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“It’s embarrassing and reprehensible,†Nugent said. “The gun control laws in Illinois insult the people in law enforcement that the day they retire we don’t trust them with a gun anymore.â€
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Blagojevich said last week during the grand-opening of the 151st Illinois State Fair that as a U.S. Congressman he had supported attempts at the federal level that would have allowed retired law enforcement officers to be armed.
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“I was a co-sponsor on the bill that he’s complaining about,†Blagojevich said.
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A similar proposal was bottled up in the House Rules Committee during the last legislative session. The measure sponsored by state Rep. John J. Millner, a Republican from St. Charles, would have allowed any retired local, state, federal law enforcement officer to carry a concealed weapon on their person or in their vehicle. Retired officers would have to have served at least 15 years, be honorably discharged and carry a valid Firearm Owners Identification Card.
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http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1016217&t=Iowa+/+Illinois&c=24,1016217
 
The reason why shall-issue CCW would be very hard to pass in places like IL, NY, etc, is the cops there, even the retired cops, get clearence to carry. It takes every LEO out of the support for CCW. A lot of cops in a lot of states that have passed CCW laws usually wanted to have them pass due to the fact that they wouldn't be active duty all the time, and they wanted their family to have the same right.

I recently talked to an Illinois gun-rights attorney. He tells me that there is no demand for right-to-carry laws in Southern Illinois, for the simple reason that the prohibition is not enforced. The penalty for carrying is a 4th degree felony, but sheriffs refuse to enforce the law.
 
Agree with Lee N. Field - I'm against anything that makes cops special when they're off duty - bad precedent. But Ted, as always, rocks!
 
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