righteousbarbarian
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I'm not a doctor so this is not medical advice, but it sounds like you might have arthritis. my parents have arthritis and they take glucosamine with chondroitin and it helps them.
I'm gettin' too damned old
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ZeSpectre
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MCgunner - Just FYI, the MSM generally takes about a week to two weeks to really kick in. Also righteousbarbarian is giving good advice too in that glucosamine with chondroitin is supposed to help the cartilage in the joints.
I still take glucosamine with chondroitin even though I'm not sure what it's doing for me, but the MSM definitely works for me in reducing (and most days eliminating) joint discomfort, hopefully it'll work for you (and your wife) as well.
I still take glucosamine with chondroitin even though I'm not sure what it's doing for me, but the MSM definitely works for me in reducing (and most days eliminating) joint discomfort, hopefully it'll work for you (and your wife) as well.
Ah, the joys of getting old. Must say i feel very good for nearly sixty. Broke my leg in two places 2 years ago. slipped in the snow while going to the post box to see if i had any cards as it was my birthday. After six months i was out hunting again. Few minor twinges. Must say i open my eyes in the morning Realise i'm still alive and think its another good day. Still hunting as much as i used to but do more hunting with the dogs these days. So there is more sitting and waiting apart from pheasant shooting with the spaniel. So life is good
Hokkmike
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Enjoy what you can as it comes and don't think about it!
Well, after reading this, I feel better about this morning.
The cold front came through yesterday, so this morning I expected to have a great day out in the woods. Couldn't get to sleep last night because of pain (rheumatoid arthritis is the current diagnosis, along with a cold intolerance thing called Reynaud's syndrome) so was moving a bit slowly this morning. Didn't get to the woods until "shooting light", although still before dawn.
And an hour and a half later, I had to leave.
The cold, and the arthritis, and the Reynaud's, all working together had me in so much pain I could not stay. I'd really struggled last weekend out there too, but I was hoping that having dressed more warmly, nice heavy socks, wearing my winter balaclava, would do and I could stick it out until about noon. HA.
I can still add layers to try and keep the warmth in as much as possible, and given that we're heading out to Mason County next week to hunt, and there's another cold front coming, I'd *better* be successful at it. I realized, too, that the "sports bucket" I've been using as a seat is just NOT working. I went out this afternoon and got one of those folding game chairs, and I'm going to try that. I'd LOVE to be one of those folks who can climb a treestand, walk ten miles, pack a deer out on their backs...
So I can't. I'll do what I *can* do, and problem solve when things go wrong like they did this morning, and do what it takes to stay out there until I can't lift a rifle any more or I'm too blind to see the deer. This is too much fun to give up, so if I can't do it the "purist's" way, I'll do it a way that works for me.
Better than quitting.
Springmom
The cold front came through yesterday, so this morning I expected to have a great day out in the woods. Couldn't get to sleep last night because of pain (rheumatoid arthritis is the current diagnosis, along with a cold intolerance thing called Reynaud's syndrome) so was moving a bit slowly this morning. Didn't get to the woods until "shooting light", although still before dawn.
And an hour and a half later, I had to leave.
The cold, and the arthritis, and the Reynaud's, all working together had me in so much pain I could not stay. I'd really struggled last weekend out there too, but I was hoping that having dressed more warmly, nice heavy socks, wearing my winter balaclava, would do and I could stick it out until about noon. HA.
I can still add layers to try and keep the warmth in as much as possible, and given that we're heading out to Mason County next week to hunt, and there's another cold front coming, I'd *better* be successful at it. I realized, too, that the "sports bucket" I've been using as a seat is just NOT working. I went out this afternoon and got one of those folding game chairs, and I'm going to try that. I'd LOVE to be one of those folks who can climb a treestand, walk ten miles, pack a deer out on their backs...
So I can't. I'll do what I *can* do, and problem solve when things go wrong like they did this morning, and do what it takes to stay out there until I can't lift a rifle any more or I'm too blind to see the deer. This is too much fun to give up, so if I can't do it the "purist's" way, I'll do it a way that works for me.
Better than quitting.
Springmom
alsaqr
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"my parents have arthritis and they take glucosamine with chondroitin and it helps them."
It works well for me.
It works well for me.
Joe Gunns
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Well, as it is now the tomorrow that eliphalet was getting his stent, I trust that it went OK and we'll hear from him in the near future.
I'm 58, had a near fatal infarct Sept 2001. Got a stent, but had permanent damage 'cause I clowned around too long before I collapsed and got the fun ambulance ride, so needed a pacemaker too. Am thankful for each and every wakeup and lights out. Weekly chiropractic keeps my lower back and the old dislocated rib injury that knots up the muscles between my shoulder blades managable. I take the pills the doc sez to, and a whole buncha nutritional supplements, lost 40 lbs, watch the diet, walk 3 miles or so a day. Generally feel better than I did 15 years ago, although now when I hit the wall, it stays hit. No reserve. Havn't hunted since my 20's, and was a bird hunter then. Been seriously thinkin' about going after deer and bear just for the joy of being out in the woods on a mission and the general joy of bein' alive.
James
I'm 58, had a near fatal infarct Sept 2001. Got a stent, but had permanent damage 'cause I clowned around too long before I collapsed and got the fun ambulance ride, so needed a pacemaker too. Am thankful for each and every wakeup and lights out. Weekly chiropractic keeps my lower back and the old dislocated rib injury that knots up the muscles between my shoulder blades managable. I take the pills the doc sez to, and a whole buncha nutritional supplements, lost 40 lbs, watch the diet, walk 3 miles or so a day. Generally feel better than I did 15 years ago, although now when I hit the wall, it stays hit. No reserve. Havn't hunted since my 20's, and was a bird hunter then. Been seriously thinkin' about going after deer and bear just for the joy of being out in the woods on a mission and the general joy of bein' alive.
James
Thanks for the thought and preyer's, I was home today before lunch, feeling great and all is well or OK considering I did have a heart attack Sept 10, one stint then and #2 yesterday. Because of a older relative waiting to long like Joe did, I went right in and had minimal damage. Doc says with no complications I might not be able to tell it ever happened in 6 months to a year. At 58 the doc says I will need to watch things in the future but for now I can even return to work Monday just nothing to physically demanding.
Someone earlier mentioned MSM it has done wonders for me. Let me state I am not much on what I call "snake oil" or any cure all, wonder stuff that comes down the pike. A few years ago was doing some stone work on a guys place and as always limping around on this bad ankle. Guy comes up tells me what MSM had done for his knee, gives me about 1/4 pound of pure MSM. Looks like white crystals, tells me to take a teaspoon full with OJ twice a day. Ankle is so bad I try it, what could I lose, and he was sincere. Now I have been a stone mason years and had been having big trouble with bursitis (sp) or more commonly known as " tennis elbow". Doc had tried everything until he says "surgery is the only option left". I can't lift a glass of ice tea at the wrong angle because of pain, it was that bad. MSM never did a thing for my bad ankle but within a few short days the elbow's started getting better, much better, till after a couple of months there was almost no pain. I was and still am kinda amazed, but need to take some along now and then or the pain will began to return. Guess it depends on the person and problem but it sure helped me out.
I feel so good that I may go look for elk next to a dirt road I know about as I have two guys that will drag one out and load her for some meat, gosh I hope I am up to that, we'll see I guess, might be a lot smarter this year to not. Jury's still out on that one.
Someone earlier mentioned MSM it has done wonders for me. Let me state I am not much on what I call "snake oil" or any cure all, wonder stuff that comes down the pike. A few years ago was doing some stone work on a guys place and as always limping around on this bad ankle. Guy comes up tells me what MSM had done for his knee, gives me about 1/4 pound of pure MSM. Looks like white crystals, tells me to take a teaspoon full with OJ twice a day. Ankle is so bad I try it, what could I lose, and he was sincere. Now I have been a stone mason years and had been having big trouble with bursitis (sp) or more commonly known as " tennis elbow". Doc had tried everything until he says "surgery is the only option left". I can't lift a glass of ice tea at the wrong angle because of pain, it was that bad. MSM never did a thing for my bad ankle but within a few short days the elbow's started getting better, much better, till after a couple of months there was almost no pain. I was and still am kinda amazed, but need to take some along now and then or the pain will began to return. Guess it depends on the person and problem but it sure helped me out.
I feel so good that I may go look for elk next to a dirt road I know about as I have two guys that will drag one out and load her for some meat, gosh I hope I am up to that, we'll see I guess, might be a lot smarter this year to not. Jury's still out on that one.
MCgunner
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Man, great to hear it all went well! I'm gonna try the MSM and might get some of that condroiton stuff or whatever it is, too. Wife says they have it at Walmart. If they have MSM thee, I might pick up an early bottle of that, too. The order will probably take a week or two.
I'm headed out to sit in my stand tomorrow morning and have another stand to set up after I'm done. Was going to go this morning, but decided I had other things to do around here.
I'm headed out to sit in my stand tomorrow morning and have another stand to set up after I'm done. Was going to go this morning, but decided I had other things to do around here.
salthouse
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Like Righteous, I'm not a Dr. and my advice is worth every penny you pay for it!
For a lot of the chronic aches and pains, fish oil does wonders. Take 3 times the dosage on the bottle of the Omega 3 fish oil capsules. In a couple of weeks you'll notice a difference. Also good for the ticker.
MSM, Glucosamine&Chondroitin are good too.
For a lot of the chronic aches and pains, fish oil does wonders. Take 3 times the dosage on the bottle of the Omega 3 fish oil capsules. In a couple of weeks you'll notice a difference. Also good for the ticker.
MSM, Glucosamine&Chondroitin are good too.
wolfe28
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Something else for your back and legs.
I'm going to assume the following, and then give you my $0.02 worth. First, the pain in your legs and back is worse when you are duck hunting than in daily activity. I'm also going to assume that you are wearing rubber boots or waders while hunting. Second, I'm going to assume that your knees and back hurt in the nothing-to-mild pain range durring non-hunting activity (work, loafing, etc), and they get progressively worse from the time you start hunting until you are done, and feel a little better the next day (provided its a non-hunting day). If this is the case, read on; if not, ignore the rest.
If the above is true, the problem is probably a combination of your previous history of activity, the way you were put together "at the factory", and your footware. Many ankle, knee, hip and low back problems can be attributed to poor or improperly chosen footware. So, stop by your local drug store and pick up a pair of FirstStep or Spenco (both brand names) insoles, and put them in your boots. They should run you about $20.00 and should make you feel better within 20 minutes of putting them in your boots.
Good luck,
D
I'm going to assume the following, and then give you my $0.02 worth. First, the pain in your legs and back is worse when you are duck hunting than in daily activity. I'm also going to assume that you are wearing rubber boots or waders while hunting. Second, I'm going to assume that your knees and back hurt in the nothing-to-mild pain range durring non-hunting activity (work, loafing, etc), and they get progressively worse from the time you start hunting until you are done, and feel a little better the next day (provided its a non-hunting day). If this is the case, read on; if not, ignore the rest.
If the above is true, the problem is probably a combination of your previous history of activity, the way you were put together "at the factory", and your footware. Many ankle, knee, hip and low back problems can be attributed to poor or improperly chosen footware. So, stop by your local drug store and pick up a pair of FirstStep or Spenco (both brand names) insoles, and put them in your boots. They should run you about $20.00 and should make you feel better within 20 minutes of putting them in your boots.
Good luck,
D
Art Eatman
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Does your championship buckle get caught on your truss?
Is Jim Beam and Geritol all that's keeping you alive?
When you heard the little praying preacher on the radio say to lay the afflicted part of your body on the radio and his prayers would help, did you look around and ask, "Maw, do you think that if I..." and she immediately snorted, "He said heal the sick, not raise the dead!"?
Gettin' old just ain't for the faint of heart! Ya gotta be tough!
Art
Is Jim Beam and Geritol all that's keeping you alive?
When you heard the little praying preacher on the radio say to lay the afflicted part of your body on the radio and his prayers would help, did you look around and ask, "Maw, do you think that if I..." and she immediately snorted, "He said heal the sick, not raise the dead!"?
Gettin' old just ain't for the faint of heart! Ya gotta be tough!
Art
Getting old
We are a beat up bunch of geezers huh. Went on vacation Oct 4th to Georgia, caught some fish with my brother and then went to Tamps bay to fish and bike. I peddled a kayak all over the bay fishing, and then went mountain biking, but boinked going uphill. That night I couldn't breathe. Next day it was worse, couldn't bike. My friend said I better get checked out when I got back. I was supposed to go hunting with a friend the next day. Went to the doctor, my feet were swollen, so they checked me in the hospital, and it was Congestive Heart Failure! I'm only 55! If I would of went hunting.... this is every bodies wake up call, your not bullet proof, and you better get that check up before stomping off in the woods. MSM does help, as well as Boron, Bromelain, [fresh pineapple] and sulfur foods like asparagus, eggs garlic and onions. A paste of cayenne peppers and wintergreen oil for topical use. Tumeric is good. For heart problems take pure tomato juice with molasses at 12 noon. I found this Chronobiotic diet through a friend and today I went for a follow up visit today and the Cardiologist couldn't believe my recovery. www.yesnomaybe.net for the diet. Take care of your selves people. We want to be here to hear all the young ones gripe in the future!
We are a beat up bunch of geezers huh. Went on vacation Oct 4th to Georgia, caught some fish with my brother and then went to Tamps bay to fish and bike. I peddled a kayak all over the bay fishing, and then went mountain biking, but boinked going uphill. That night I couldn't breathe. Next day it was worse, couldn't bike. My friend said I better get checked out when I got back. I was supposed to go hunting with a friend the next day. Went to the doctor, my feet were swollen, so they checked me in the hospital, and it was Congestive Heart Failure! I'm only 55! If I would of went hunting.... this is every bodies wake up call, your not bullet proof, and you better get that check up before stomping off in the woods. MSM does help, as well as Boron, Bromelain, [fresh pineapple] and sulfur foods like asparagus, eggs garlic and onions. A paste of cayenne peppers and wintergreen oil for topical use. Tumeric is good. For heart problems take pure tomato juice with molasses at 12 noon. I found this Chronobiotic diet through a friend and today I went for a follow up visit today and the Cardiologist couldn't believe my recovery. www.yesnomaybe.net for the diet. Take care of your selves people. We want to be here to hear all the young ones gripe in the future!
Art
Didn't someone say that anyone could live for a hundred years?
You just have to give up all the things that make you want to live for a hundred years...
How do you do the math on this? Do you now have a 113 year old back, or a 146 year old one?
Didn't someone say that anyone could live for a hundred years?
You just have to give up all the things that make you want to live for a hundred years...
alsaqr
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"At 58 the doc says I will need to watch things in the future but for now I can even return to work Monday just nothing to physically demanding."
i'm glad that you are coming along well after your ordeal.
i'm glad that you are coming along well after your ordeal.
Joe Gunns
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Glad to hear it all went well eliphalet!
James
James
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Glad to hear the good news Eliphalet! Don't over do it, but I hope you can get some hunting in.
I don't know; if you're still around when I get there, I'll let you know, though.
My grandfather is 74 this year. He's had lymphatic cancer for the last couple years, but he's actually doing better now than when they found the cancer. Up at 6 every morning, up until 2 doing tasks and errands, or just keeping busy, usually. This time of year he's usually not home - he's off in one of several different states hunting or trapping.
When I was a kid (well, about 14 years ago, so he was just about 60) he'd come out here and we'd go pheasant hunting. I was fast for my age, in karate, and probably more fit than most. Yet he'd still have a lot more energy than I at the end of the day. To this day, he honestly doesn't look a day older...
Eat well, eat right, and keep consistently exercising, he says... While that's true, I think a lot of it has to do with genetics, to be honest. His father (my great-grandfather) had his back broken twice (he recovered fully the first time, mostly the 2nd time, but he was 93 when that happened - and he died), and there's a history of healthy longevity in my family. Some families have people start dying from poor health/old age and wearing out in their 40s - and while there's certainly some diet and lifestyle involved there - I can't see that happening without a predisposition for it.
My grandfather is 74 this year. He's had lymphatic cancer for the last couple years, but he's actually doing better now than when they found the cancer. Up at 6 every morning, up until 2 doing tasks and errands, or just keeping busy, usually. This time of year he's usually not home - he's off in one of several different states hunting or trapping.
When I was a kid (well, about 14 years ago, so he was just about 60) he'd come out here and we'd go pheasant hunting. I was fast for my age, in karate, and probably more fit than most. Yet he'd still have a lot more energy than I at the end of the day. To this day, he honestly doesn't look a day older...
Eat well, eat right, and keep consistently exercising, he says... While that's true, I think a lot of it has to do with genetics, to be honest. His father (my great-grandfather) had his back broken twice (he recovered fully the first time, mostly the 2nd time, but he was 93 when that happened - and he died), and there's a history of healthy longevity in my family. Some families have people start dying from poor health/old age and wearing out in their 40s - and while there's certainly some diet and lifestyle involved there - I can't see that happening without a predisposition for it.
skinewmexico
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Hey, I had to skip my son's Boy Scout backpacking trip this weekend because I hurt my back..........getting up off the toilet.
MCgunner
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Man, that had to be a good one! Was it a "three ringer?" No, I won't explain.....
skinewmexico
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No, but my pants fit better.
FLORIDA KEVIN
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heck yes it hurts !
When I get up in the morning ,if nothing hurts I'm affraid I died in my sleep !
54 next week ! i aint done yet !:banghead:
When I get up in the morning ,if nothing hurts I'm affraid I died in my sleep !
54 next week ! i aint done yet !:banghead:Gettin' Old
I am 79 and have been hunting deer 70 years. Have had knee replacement, hip replacement and arthritis in many joints but keep going. Have two shooting houses at each of my four food plots, one 15ft high and one at ground level. I hunt the tall one if I feel I can climb it that day and the ground house if I'm feeling bad. Works great! I let the young ones do all the hard stuff and I do the bush hogging, discing, etc. They'll drag me out of the woods feet first some day but what a way to go!
I am 79 and have been hunting deer 70 years. Have had knee replacement, hip replacement and arthritis in many joints but keep going. Have two shooting houses at each of my four food plots, one 15ft high and one at ground level. I hunt the tall one if I feel I can climb it that day and the ground house if I'm feeling bad. Works great! I let the young ones do all the hard stuff and I do the bush hogging, discing, etc. They'll drag me out of the woods feet first some day but what a way to go!
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