I don't need this pistol, exactly. I already have all 3-4 basic sizes adequately covered.
Full size: H&K VP9
Compact: Glock 19
Sub Compact: Glock 26
Small/pocket: S&W 642 (if and when I get a semi here it will be a Shield or a G43)
Now I want to venture away from Glock to a "same but different" 9mm striker poly pistol in the compact or maybe sub-compact category. Must have capacity of 10+1 or greater, striker fired, no manual safety, small enough to conceal (bigger than a Glock 19 in the grip starts to get iffy).
Sig P320 Consensus on the trigger is that it is very good and there are no known/reported areas of concern. I'm sure there are or will be plenty of aftermarket support in terms of holsters, sights, widespread mag availability, etc. I don't like that the P320 Compact grip and backstrap are longer than the G19, as the G19 is already IMO at the upper limit of concealed carry in warm weather. That size pistol does shoot very well but I'm somewhat afraid I would end up not carrying it enough to justify buying due to the grip length.
Maybe a P320 sub compact, although some seem to consider its proportions to be a bit odd and top heavy with a rather high bore axis. It looks pretty darn funky in all the pictures, but for a carry gun it's a logical thing to do (small grip, big slide). I am somewhat aware of the modularity of the Sig P320 plastform so that is a check in the + column
FNS 9c...the grip size of this pistol intrigues me. Longer grip than the G26, shorter grip than the G19, holds 12 rounds with the flush mag, and comes with all three of a 12 round flush mag, 12 round pinky extension mag, and 17 round full size mag with grip extender. Nicely done FNH. The trigger gets good reviews but not as glowing as the P320. Likely lower aftermarket support, holster availability, etc. As a company I have more faith in FNH than Sig and the size seems perfect for a carry gun, especially with the included magazine options.
Wait for an H&K VP9SK...I don't have the patience for that, I get the impression it could be awhile. BUT if there was such a pistol on the market right now, or officially announced and in the pipeline...I would not have a decision to make, I'd get a VP9SK based on how well the full size version shoots (particularly since I already have 15 round mags it could use).
I am not interested in the S&W M&Pc, even with an Apex trigger (having said that, I have never shot an Apex trigger...). I am also not particularly interested in Springfield's offerings that I am aware of, I have fired an XD and just plain did not like it. I'm not sure trust Ruger quality control and consistency and all that these days. Maybe I am missing something but I don't really see a Walther in this category as the PPS is single stack and lower capacity while the PPQ is full size (even though it seems to dominate the "best trigger" award) and I'm not looking to add a second full size due to the limited use as a carry gun (if I was it would be a Glock 17, Walther PPQ, Canik TP9V2, or full size Sig P320.
Those with a P320 or FNS9, where do you hold the sights? How is the POI compared to the POA? Hickok45 and some others talked about these being more of a 6 o'clock hold even at fairly modest ranges, and I don't want that. The VP9 is a 'combat hold', dead center, put the dot where you want the bullet, and I really like that. My Glocks are about the same or center mass hold, I don't want to be switching between guns and have one where the bullets impact above the front sight.
I will try to rent these at an indoor range before buying anything. I haven't checked availability of rentals yet to see if they are around
Full size: H&K VP9
Compact: Glock 19
Sub Compact: Glock 26
Small/pocket: S&W 642 (if and when I get a semi here it will be a Shield or a G43)
Now I want to venture away from Glock to a "same but different" 9mm striker poly pistol in the compact or maybe sub-compact category. Must have capacity of 10+1 or greater, striker fired, no manual safety, small enough to conceal (bigger than a Glock 19 in the grip starts to get iffy).
Sig P320 Consensus on the trigger is that it is very good and there are no known/reported areas of concern. I'm sure there are or will be plenty of aftermarket support in terms of holsters, sights, widespread mag availability, etc. I don't like that the P320 Compact grip and backstrap are longer than the G19, as the G19 is already IMO at the upper limit of concealed carry in warm weather. That size pistol does shoot very well but I'm somewhat afraid I would end up not carrying it enough to justify buying due to the grip length.
Maybe a P320 sub compact, although some seem to consider its proportions to be a bit odd and top heavy with a rather high bore axis. It looks pretty darn funky in all the pictures, but for a carry gun it's a logical thing to do (small grip, big slide). I am somewhat aware of the modularity of the Sig P320 plastform so that is a check in the + column
FNS 9c...the grip size of this pistol intrigues me. Longer grip than the G26, shorter grip than the G19, holds 12 rounds with the flush mag, and comes with all three of a 12 round flush mag, 12 round pinky extension mag, and 17 round full size mag with grip extender. Nicely done FNH. The trigger gets good reviews but not as glowing as the P320. Likely lower aftermarket support, holster availability, etc. As a company I have more faith in FNH than Sig and the size seems perfect for a carry gun, especially with the included magazine options.
Wait for an H&K VP9SK...I don't have the patience for that, I get the impression it could be awhile. BUT if there was such a pistol on the market right now, or officially announced and in the pipeline...I would not have a decision to make, I'd get a VP9SK based on how well the full size version shoots (particularly since I already have 15 round mags it could use).
I am not interested in the S&W M&Pc, even with an Apex trigger (having said that, I have never shot an Apex trigger...). I am also not particularly interested in Springfield's offerings that I am aware of, I have fired an XD and just plain did not like it. I'm not sure trust Ruger quality control and consistency and all that these days. Maybe I am missing something but I don't really see a Walther in this category as the PPS is single stack and lower capacity while the PPQ is full size (even though it seems to dominate the "best trigger" award) and I'm not looking to add a second full size due to the limited use as a carry gun (if I was it would be a Glock 17, Walther PPQ, Canik TP9V2, or full size Sig P320.
Those with a P320 or FNS9, where do you hold the sights? How is the POI compared to the POA? Hickok45 and some others talked about these being more of a 6 o'clock hold even at fairly modest ranges, and I don't want that. The VP9 is a 'combat hold', dead center, put the dot where you want the bullet, and I really like that. My Glocks are about the same or center mass hold, I don't want to be switching between guns and have one where the bullets impact above the front sight.
I will try to rent these at an indoor range before buying anything. I haven't checked availability of rentals yet to see if they are around
