I know that, for the most part, private firearm ownership is severly restricted in Europe compared to the US. However, most Europeans do not see this as important, regardless of arguements I can come up with (including their own history). Does anybody have a list other rights we have that they don't and perhaps even rights they have that we don't enjoy?
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Information on Civil Rights in Western Europe?
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American By Blood
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Many Western European countries recognize some form of homosexual marriage. The jury is still out on whether or not having the state sanction your love is a right.
Most (if not all) Western Europeans receive "free" healthcare. Again, enjoying Tylenol and prostate exams on the taxpayer's tab might not actually be a right.
Some Western European nations are quite tolerant of illegal drug use. In these countries there are state-funded methadone programs and parks where the authorities have declared it OK to sell drugs. Opiates, however, may not be among the things that men are naturally entitled to.
Free speech in much of Europe is an interesting little puzzle. Generally speaking, Western Europeans will go to much greater lengths to defend your "right" to expose your genitals in public. Of course, they also tend to applaud when their courts order political parties to disband for the sole crime of opposing immigration or when these same judges send historians to prison for pointing out that the story of the Holocaust is still an evolving narrative.
Property rights are fun in the EU as well. Last year the EU parliament voted to start taxing savings accounts. The bank that only EU govt employees are allowed to join was exempted, natch.
Nothing in Europe surprises me anymore. Those men who were unable to bow their heads peacefully with the onset of modernity escaped to Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and Rhodesia. Their descendents might not be honoring their independent spirits as well as they should, but we're still generally a bit less governable than the children of those who didn't see the growing state as a threat.
Most (if not all) Western Europeans receive "free" healthcare. Again, enjoying Tylenol and prostate exams on the taxpayer's tab might not actually be a right.
Some Western European nations are quite tolerant of illegal drug use. In these countries there are state-funded methadone programs and parks where the authorities have declared it OK to sell drugs. Opiates, however, may not be among the things that men are naturally entitled to.
Free speech in much of Europe is an interesting little puzzle. Generally speaking, Western Europeans will go to much greater lengths to defend your "right" to expose your genitals in public. Of course, they also tend to applaud when their courts order political parties to disband for the sole crime of opposing immigration or when these same judges send historians to prison for pointing out that the story of the Holocaust is still an evolving narrative.
Property rights are fun in the EU as well. Last year the EU parliament voted to start taxing savings accounts. The bank that only EU govt employees are allowed to join was exempted, natch.
Nothing in Europe surprises me anymore. Those men who were unable to bow their heads peacefully with the onset of modernity escaped to Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and Rhodesia. Their descendents might not be honoring their independent spirits as well as they should, but we're still generally a bit less governable than the children of those who didn't see the growing state as a threat.
Tom Bri
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Actually most Euro countries do allow firearms ownership, though they all have quirks about what they do or do not allow. I don't know of any country that bans all firearms, except maybe Singapore. Japan, like Britain makes it real hard to get handguns, so their olympic teams have to go abroad to practice. Don't think any Euro country goes that far.
mordechaianiliewicz
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American By Blood is mostly correct in terms of the Western European concepts of individual rights. In most Western European countries you can own guns though, but through rather extensive registration programmes.
Although I think he was tongue in cheek about it, most of WE thinks of priveleges, and government handouts as rights. They do not understand that rights are things which cannot be taken away from a person without the use of force.
If I take away healthcare you were not paying for, or drugs you were not paying for, I didn't use force, I simply quit providing. If anything I quit using force on the taxpayers.
They also acknowlege "homosexual rights" however most of them acknowlege homosexual privileges as if they were rights. Homosexuals have the same rights as anyone else no more or no less. But most of Western Europe will go out of their way to placate almost any group.
Oddly, Europe will disband political parties for no reason other than they are too"right wing." Of course this is a fear of a return to fascism. Granted, this fear has pushed Europe so far to the left, it is now teetering.
Between Muslim invasion (they are invading), and social welfare systems which are collapsing, Western Europe is going to implode. It is just a matter of time.
Although I think he was tongue in cheek about it, most of WE thinks of priveleges, and government handouts as rights. They do not understand that rights are things which cannot be taken away from a person without the use of force.
If I take away healthcare you were not paying for, or drugs you were not paying for, I didn't use force, I simply quit providing. If anything I quit using force on the taxpayers.
They also acknowlege "homosexual rights" however most of them acknowlege homosexual privileges as if they were rights. Homosexuals have the same rights as anyone else no more or no less. But most of Western Europe will go out of their way to placate almost any group.
Oddly, Europe will disband political parties for no reason other than they are too"right wing." Of course this is a fear of a return to fascism. Granted, this fear has pushed Europe so far to the left, it is now teetering.
Between Muslim invasion (they are invading), and social welfare systems which are collapsing, Western Europe is going to implode. It is just a matter of time.
There is (or was) a shotgunning club in Singapore however I'm not sure of the specifics however.except maybe Singapore
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