Is 6.5 creedmore here to stay?

I doubt Ill ever be without one as this point.....
Its odd, I dont really have anything spectacular to say about the 6.5CM.
The 6s are faster and have lower recoil, they shoot inside the 6.5 at the ranges I generally shoot....
The bigger rounds are bigger.....

But from the standpoint of a "do all" cartridge the 6.5 checks almost ALL the boxes I have.....Youd think I would use it for more stuff.....
 
The 6.5 CM just seems to me to be the “Glock 9MM” of the rifle calibers.

It is an easy, effective choice for many applications while receiving undeserved scorn from both old school .30 caliber shooters and new wave “PRC-Dash-newest hot thing” shooters.

I’d wager the 6.5 CM is a good choice for 90% of the US rifleman needs, just like the .270, 7MM-08, .257 Robert’s, .280 Rem, .308, 30-06, etc. with the added benefit of less recoil and improved down range performance that >5% of owners will never use.
 
the last time I saw number for it 6.5C was the best selling rifle chambering besides for 223/556 by an enormous margin and was also the best selling ammo in the country except for 223/556. Definitely here to stay.
 
You'll never have any issue finding 6.5 Creedmoor ammo. There are enough rifles out there already that there will always be a market to feed them.

It's a good cartridge, and it works well for deer sized game. I've got one in the safe though I don't tend to shoot it much as I like to be contrarian.
 
LoonWulf said:
I doubt Ill ever be without one as this point.....
Its odd, I dont really have anything spectacular to say about the 6.5CM.
The 6s are faster and have lower recoil, they shoot inside the 6.5 at the ranges I generally shoot....
The bigger rounds are bigger.....

But from the standpoint of a "do all" cartridge the 6.5 checks almost ALL the boxes I have.....Youd think I would use it for more stuff.....
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Maybe, but the 6.5 CM seems to be a very good choice for the person who only needs one bolt rifle for hunting. If a person has a .243, a 7MM, a .270, a 30-06, and a 300 WM, or a similar assortment, I don't see a reason to add the 6.5 CM other than "want one".

I'm kinda there personally. I have zero bolt guns at this time. I always had a 7MM rem mag, but that sucker just got too tiresome to shoot more than 5-7 rounds. I didn't hunt abr the recoil wasn't fun on a bench. I am pretty sure I'll have a 6.5 CM in the not distant future...especially if I get back into hunting and need a bolt gun.
 
CoalCrackerAl said:
One more question. Are the mags for it proprietary. I did find out that lower MFG should match the upper in AR 10'S.
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NO ,.308 aka 7.62x51mm Std. magazines work perfectly . As for matching lower and uppers ,it's always a GOOD practice ,unless YOU know fitment for sure .
One can mismatch uppers with lowers ,you simply must know which brand and it's attachment profile . DPMS variants are NOT compatible with AR10 which isn't really the correct term . LR10 or LR .308 pattern . Start with a GOOD QUALITY LOWER ,you can then swap complete .308 or 6.5 Uppers real easily . In other words BEST of both worlds without breaking the bank . I have Extra uppers ( built on sales components very reasonably $$$ completed ) and they work just as well as the original combo I cobbled together . Barrels are what makes it perform but their not worth a chit ,if the lower is crap . So NAME brand High quality LOWER is in order ,IMO . :)
https://www.80percentarms.com/blog/dpms-vs-armalite-ar-10-lr-308-pattern-differences/

https://308ar.com/6-5-creedmoor-ar-most-accurate-ar/
 
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Gun-Reck said:
For hunting, the .270 Winchester, especially with modern heavy or copper bullets, is a better choice.

The advantages of the 6.5CM, besides low recoil, are beyond hunting ranges, and at low energy.
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Better how? Kills them “deader”?

Is it more accurate? Easier to shoot? Destroys less meat?

I’d like if you’d explain how it is “better”. More power? Is that really necessary?
 
Speaking as someone who has shoulder injuries in the past, the 6.5C is much easier to tolerate than, say, a 308. It filled a niche for me, as I have a 223 and a 30-06 and I wanted a something in between in a bolt gun. I feel comfortable using it up to deer, but elk and above would make me bring out the 30-06.

I think there are a lot of people who like the concept of a lighter recoil yet still effective on mid size game, and also shoot targets further out. I’m sure a new hotness will come out eventually, but by then it will be an entrenched round.
 
6.5 Creedmoor. Over rated, under powdered in factory guns with 20" or 22" barrels. :uhoh:

Yes, i bought a Savage Axis. Average accuracy, on 18 power with 140 MB will average 1.09" @100 yds 5 shot groups, 6 groups. Not great, average, ok for hunting.

Hornady factory ammo shot worse. Some guns shoot bullet hole, mine doesnt.
 
Call me dumb or stubborn, but I'm never jumping onto the Creedmore everything and anything bandwagon.

Ya ya ya..the 6.5 can do this, that and the other dang thing better, and it's the greatest thing since the invention of gunpowder..Yada Yada yada.

It's just 10% truth and 90% marketing, hype and BS.
Bottom line is..the 308 CAN, WILL, HAS, done everything just as well, for a long time.

I fell for the "new shiny thing" crap back in the late 90s with the new SUPER MAGNUM everything craze. I invested thousands into 300 RUM stuff, not that I regret it, cause I still got it and use it..but look around now..very few even chamber 300 RUM anymore, or any of the late 90s super mags, and I have not seen a box of factory RUM, or WSM on a store shelf in years.
I'm not falling for it again.
Granted..it's likely the 6.5 CM ain't going to fade like the RUMs, but..it's still nothing but the new shiny thing.

Milage and opinions may differ from mine, but I'll stick to my tried and true 308s.
 
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IMO Nearly everything gun related IS about marketing........at least on the consumer side, theres more politics involved in the military stuff than marketing I think.

The .308 isnt any better on paper than the .30-06. The 6.5CM isnt any better on paper than the 6.5 Swede or .260 Remington
Its the nuances of use and slight deviations in design that give the newer rounds some advantages, and those advantages get marketed hard IF the company bringing them out is worth their salt. Even then it dosent always take.

Ive been into gun since the late 90s, and followed nearly all the new cartridge releases. NONE of them have done as well as the 6.5CM, somewhat do to the hype and marketing, but also do to the fact that it really IS a Goldilocks of a cartridge.

Comparing it directly to the .308 family in general, It offers more bullet weight than the .243, the .260 was/is a dud(Yay Remington....) but should have been ballistically identical, its nearly identical performance to the 7-08 with a bit less bullet weight, and shoots inside the .308 noticeably.
That dosent make any of the cartridges listed poor choices in general and it doesn't do everything better than they do. The .243 in standard form is a better varmint round and offers less recoil with plenty of bullet weight for most medium game, as well as being decent as a long range target cartridge (If you've got a fast twist then the .243 probably makes as good or better a long-range round, same can be said for the .260). The 7-08 can toss the same weight bullets faster, and offers heavier options with similar trajectory. The .308 can handle bullets that are heavier still, and while it doesn't offer the bc or velocity of the 6.5CM its no slouch; It also boasts a larger frontal diameter and better options for heavy game bullets.

All that said, for someone who is looking for just one round to do pretty much everything with, it's hard to beat.

(also to address my earlier post.....While I admire the 6.5CM for its versatility, for me its primarily a long-range target round, I have a bunch of similar options that are set up for other stuff)
 
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I don't think the 6.5cm is going anywhere, but I also don't think its going to drive any other cartridges into extinction. It just doesn't offer enough real world capabilities or benefits over existing and well established options.
 
silicosys4 said:
I don't think the 6.5cm is going anywhere, but I also don't think its going to drive any other cartridges into extinction. It just doesn't offer enough real world capabilities or benefits over existing and well established options.
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I agree with you mostly, but I think it will speed the obsolescence of the .260 Remington … regretfully. I’d bet you’ll see fewer new rifles in that cartridge and fewer factory loads in the future.
 
Just for kicks, I went to the Cabelas website and checked how many different rifles they list for 4 popular “deer” cartridges. Sure, I could have included .243/7MM/etc. but for the sake of keeping it simple, I just used these 4 cartridges .

Below are numbers for all rifles and then just bolt action rifles:

All:

.270: 40
.308 & .308/7.62*51: 125
30-06: 46
6.5 CM: 152

Bolt Action only:

.270: 38
.308 & .308/7.62*51: 98
30-06: 41
6.5 CM: 138
 
Buzznrose said:
Better how? Kills them “deader”?

Is it more accurate? Easier to shoot? Destroys less meat?

I’d like if you’d explain how it is “better”. More power? Is that really necessary?
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The 6.5 CM - is simply an optimized 6.5x55mm Mauser, a know quantity for over 125 years.

Out to 600 yards - the .270 Winchester is the superior cartridge in every metric, and considered the reliable bottom of the "big game" cartridge spectrum.

Feel free to use it as you choose.
 
The truth be known. What people say they shoot it too yardage wise and what they really do in most cases is miles apart. Most deer and other smaller game: the 6.5 CM is perfect for their needs. Most people never get a chance to poke a deer past 300 let alone 4+. Those that do I hear their comments and see their point of choosing another cartridge.
 
Generally speaking, I'm glad it's successful. Anything that will increase shooting, in whatever discipline is great.
For me personally, I have no use for one.
I have a very nice, accurate .243 for almost any conceivable use, and a selection of .308 for anything else. Equiped with these 2 does me just fine.
I'm sure there are lots of shooters who really don't care much if some cartridge is developed, as long as they have a suitable stand by that meets their needs
 
Bear creek makes them in a 24 inch barrel. Right now they only have a light barrel in stock. I want a heavy barrel. Im not in a hurry. Im going to spend some time shooting my sons Thompson center.
 
Gun-Reck said:
The 6.5 CM - is simply an optimized 6.5x55mm Mauser, a know quantity for over 125 years.

Out to 600 yards - the .270 Winchester is the superior cartridge in every metric, and considered the reliable bottom of the "big game" cartridge spectrum.

Feel free to use it as you choose.
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Again, you can measure performance and say whatever you want based on data, but the ultimate data point is a dead critter.

I agree a bigger bullet can help compensate for poor marksmanship, but I’ve see guys loose antelope on the prairie of
Montana from poor hits from a 30-06.

Saying .270 is the reliable bottom of the big game cartridge says anything .25*, 6.5MM, 6MM/.243 an unreliable cartridge discounts all the “big game” taken by those cartridges. I understand elk, moose, and brown bear would make sense for a ‘06 or better, but lots of those critters died by 6MM bullets.
 
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