Is it economical to reload .223/5.56?

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I've been checking component prices for loading .223/5.56. It looks to me like powder will around ten cents a round, the bullet clocks in at thirty-one cents and a primer for less than four cents. Not counting tax and shipping. I can buy get American Eagle 5.56 55 gr cheaper than that.

Am I missing something or just not finding the economical sites?
 
Well, you can buy pretty decent bullets for about .10 cents all over the place.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...n-Premium-Hollow-Point-500-Count-by-MIDSOUTH-

Powder should run you around .8 cents a round.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/000347481/Winchester-748-Smokeless-Powder-1-Lb

Primers should be less then .3 cents.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/000200013/-Number-400-Small-Rifle-Primer-(1000-Count)-

So, that's .21 cents a round, $4.20 a box of 20, or $21.00 a hundred.

Of course, if you have to order power & primers, cost will raise due to Haz-Mat shipping fees.

rc
 
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Reloading is NOT just about saving money.
Although that's a big factor.

The other, sometimes larger role, is that you're able to dial that ammo in to your rifle.

Because each rifle's different, what works in yours may or may not work as well in mine.

Besides, I DO save. My last reloading session cost me $3.55/box of 20.
$45 for a box of 500 FMJBT (on sale)
$20/1,000 primers - although I have a stash of rifle primers, so I haven't had to buy any recently
$20/lb of Varget

With factory ammo I might get a 5" spread at 100 yards.
Because I can tailor ammo when I make it, I've seen that 5" shrink down to 2".
(iron sights, standing, free hand)
 
Not sure where ya getting .31$ bullets at.... Maybe yer math was a bit off

If ya gotta ask... then NOPE... Not worth it


Save the Components for us


:neener::what::D:D:D
 
Yes it is, and as mentioned cutting your group size in half or better compared to factory FMJ is worth it.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
The idea that you'll save money by reloading is usually wrong in my opinion.

You'll probably shoot BETTER ammunition.

You'll almost certainly shoot MORE ammunition.

So even if you're paying less per round fired, you won't actually save any money, it's very likely that you'll be spending a good bit more.

Addictions are like that... :)
 
Saving money reloading is all about buying in bulk. I see 55gr FMJ bullets for sale in the 7-8 cents apiece range--but you have to buy a lot to do that.

Primers will be between 3 and 4 cents apiece for CCI #41.

Powder, if bought by the 8# keg, costs about 7.4 cents per load (25 grains of Win 748).

So--7.4 cents for powder, 8 cents for a bullet, maybe 4 cents for a primer--19.4 cents a round.

Good 5.56 ammo costs in the neighborhood of 33 cents a round, so you can save the difference.

Now, having said that, while saving money is a motivation for reloading, producing excellent handloads is another. I also like the independence of being able to make my own ammo, I find it relaxing, I get a feeling of accomplishment.

The reasons for reloading are many, but you'll have to decide if it's enough.
 
223/5.56 ammo is economical----especially when making match or premium hunting ammo. With 7.62X39 that is a different story at the present time however due to brass and correct size bullet cost.:scrutiny:
 
Reloading common calibers like 9mm, 223, and 762x39 may not generate much cost savings. Everything is relative. If you are trying to compare range ammo for blasting in 223 then you will be hard pressed to justify the cost, especially compared to steel cased stuff. It may be 10k+ reloads just to break even on your investment in equipment. However, if you are looking at loading for accuracy and comparing to match ammo, you can save a quarter or more per round with premium bullets plus create ammo that is tailored specifically to your rifle.

On a related note, we shouldn't be comparing costs on old stock that we already have on hand. I think the OP's prices are realistic at $30/pound for powder and $4/100 primers from what I have seen at local retail gun shops or priced online after adding shipping and hazmat. There are certainly sources to get vanilla 55gr FMJ for around 10 cents apiece. At the same time Walmart carries 55 gr Tula for $5.27/box of 20 and Federal 100 ct 55gr FMJ for $34.97. Both can be had for less ordering 1000 round cases online. So average it's about 2 cents cheaper than steel, 9 cents on brass versus cranking out general purpose range fodder that will cost about 24 cents in components not including brass.
 
If one is willing to shoot steel case the price difference is certainly not as great as reloads. But if you're talking brass I can reload for roughly $.23/rnd vs $.40/rnd new. For a simple single stage press plus accessories payback would be at roughly 3,000 rounds.
 
If I may point out...

There's a certain level of independence reloading your own ammo.

When we had the ammo scare a couple years ago, no 9mm to be found...guess what I was doing. Reloading. I'm simply not tied down to the whims of ammo hoarders cleaning off the shelves.:cool:
 
The economics of reloading depend greatly on how much you shoot. If you go through a box or two a year then just find what your gun likes best and buy it. If you shoot hundreds of rounds a week you definitely save money reloading. If you're somewhere in between and cost matters you have to do the math and make the call.

Some figure the cost of their time into it, I don't. For me reloading is a hobby, just like shooting. And hobbies cost money.
 
Thanks for your comments. I have a lot to think about now. I think I'll see how much I shoot this gun before jumping into reloading. I reload pistol now, several calibers. I also have to take into account the trimmer and primer prep tools I have to acquire that my pistol cases don't require.
 
If one is willing to shoot steel case the price difference is certainly not as great as reloads. But if you're talking brass I can reload for roughly $.23/rnd vs $.40/rnd new. For a simple single stage press plus accessories payback would be at roughly 3,000 rounds.
The problem for many people, and it's understandable, is that to get the best per-round prices on components, you have to buy them in great bulk.

That means primers by the 5000, powder by the 8# keg, bullets by the thousands. Partly that's to get the best price from the vendor and partly to spread out shipping and (if necessary) hazmat.

Buying primers 100 at a time is not the answer to saving money. Watching sales and clearance items, connecting them with shipping deals--those of us who are frugal pay attention to these things and we pounce when we see a deal. That, of course, requires us to have ready cash to do it, too.

Admittedly, that may not be possible for many people. I'm an empty nester--20 years ago, I would not have had the spare money to buy in bulk.

But here's an answer to that: find someone who *does* buy in bulk, and either do a group buy with them, or see if they'll sell to you at their price. My brother is just getting into reloading, and he's bought a couple thousand primers from me, some powder, some bullets--at the bulk price.

Given the likely nominee for the Democrats, I would not be surprised to see prices rise and supply to get scarce. Now is the time--not next fall. It's one of the reasons I got into casting....
 
To the OP

IMHO you are most of the way there if you already reload something else. You just need the dies and components. Payback will be much faster for you. Plus the rifle rounds gain the most from the accuracy standpoint, at least from my reloading experience. YMMV
 
I've been checking component prices for loading .223/5.56. It looks to me like powder will around ten cents a round, the bullet clocks in at thirty-one cents and a primer for less than four cents. Not counting tax and shipping. I can buy get American Eagle 5.56 55 gr cheaper than that.

Am I missing something or just not finding the economical sites?
All depends on what you want or what you are after in your hand loads. I stride for accuracy and the kind of accuracy I can't get out of a box of $4.50 a box of 20 rounds of 223 / 5.56 or for that matter any 5.56 bulk ammunition. There is much, much more to hand loading than saving a buck. I work up specific loads for specific rifles all in the name of accuracy.

Ron
 
When you start loading some better quality rounds for maybe varmint hunting is when you start seeing the savings. You already have a press so a set of dies and trimmer and maybe something for primer pockets is about all you need. The Lee trimmer is cheap and you can get a pocket trimmer that can go in a drill reasonable too.
 
55 FMJ 2nds at $65/1000


3lbs of powder (enough for 1000 rounds) $60-$65

1000 pulled primed cases (basically new, never fired, reusable brass) $135

http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/223-...imed-Brass-1000-Ct-223-Rem-FC-PBrass-1000.htm

Total is $260-$265 if all you buy is 1000. Buy in bulk and you get prices down even further.

With those components you can make ammo about as accurate as any company loading 55 grain FMJ. The seconds aren't match bullets by any means, but they are about as cheap as can be found right now. If you break down the cost of the brass to being reloaded only 5 times, then your price goes to $27 per 1000 for the brass which brings your total cost down to $157 plus whatever primers are costing you nowadays. Or you can buy processed range brass for like $50/1000 now. Breaking that down into 5 reloads you are paying:

$10 -brass
$25 -primers
$65- bullets
$65- powder

TOTAL = $165 for 1000 rounds of 55 grain FMJ. Thats a case of crappy steel case wolf ammo back in like 2005.
 
Factory Federal XM-193 runs about 40 cents/round and will produce a 5" group off-hand at 50 yards with iron sights.

My reloads, which are loaded to 5.56 pressures, produce a 3" cluster off-hand at 50 yards, using iron sights.

My cost with the free brass from the factory ammo is 20 cents/round.

Brass = Free
Primers = 3 cents
Bullets = 8 cents.....FMJ bulk by the thousand
Powder = 9 cents.....bought 16 lbs of 2460 on-line to spread out the shipping cost.

That's $200/thousand for ammo that is quite a bit better than the factory Federal stuff.
 
The problem for many people, and it's understandable, is that to get the best per-round prices on components, you have to buy them in great bulk.

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Very true....although you don't have to buy in that large of bulk to get good prices. It sounds like you and I are in similar situations: I'm an empty nester and have more time than when my kids were younger and, since they're gone, finances aren't quite as tight. So I can buy more than I might have years ago.

Depending on shooting volume I would say one can get good prices on components for the same total $ they might be spending on factory ammo now. I buy my powder and primers locally. I'm generally getting them for $.09/rnd (powder) and $.03/rnd (primer). I get .223 bullets at powdervalleyinc.com for about $.10 - maybe $.11-.12 with shipping. I can find powder locally for $23-$24/lb and primers generally are $31 or so for 1,000. And if I'm willing to buy 4lb or 8lb kegs it gets even better.....but that then might bring us back to your point: You're starting to talk probably multi-year supplies and that may be difficult to pull off from a total $ perspective.

For me the key (and the fun) has been surfing various local stores (some big box and some not) and just watching and seeing prices. After a while you will recognize what a good deal is so you can snatch it up when you see it. I stumbled on a local shop that sells a certain bullet I like (for 9mm) for LESS than what Powder Valley sells them for - and in addition I don't have to pay shipping. By really getting to know the local retailers one might find some really good deals.
 
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