Is the high road being infiltrated?

[melikesguns]

On that note, with my 5 posts. Let me see your full auto. guns, and me(big brother) wants to see your ammo stash.!!

 

[Johnnypi45]

I bet the FBI has an agent assigned to reading forums all day long.

I WANT THAT JOB!

Petey

 

[22-rimfire]

I think that job would get really boring after a while. You would be crusing between various forums and reading reading reading. Like folks have said, their may be some sort of scanning program that is used for key words. But I'm just guessing.

The reason this sort of came up was I read an article about an increase in threats directed toward the winning presidential candidate. My guess was immediately that the Secret Service and FBI is probably watching for hints or indicators of future behavior. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch for law enforcement to watch the forums. I really don't need a tin foil hat or want one.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Why do I know this ****? Because I use to date a government agent who wasn't supposed to tell me this stuff, but guess what? He or she did told me.

That's just awesome!

 

[lonegunman]

I personally cannot imagine anyone stupid enough to either post pictures of their property or lists of their property on an internet website.

I think many of these requests are from the same type of guy who meat gazes in the locker room. The rest are probably from the BATFE.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Is the high road being infiltrated?

Oh sure! It is part of the infiltrate and annihilate plan just like several of our constituents are doing by getting emails from Brady.

See posts #9 and #10 along with related posts here...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=404947&highlight=brady+camp

Personally, I figure it must all be a part of M.A.D., but that could be because my tinfoil hat has worn through in a few places and that I can no longer consider my brain a secure channel until the custom upgrade arrives from Paranoid R Us.

 

[SSN Vet]

post a list of all of your firearms and their serial numbers....

add to that an inventory of any high capacity mags...

and we'll get right back to you with an answer.

 

[wbond]

I can tell you for a fact that U.S. g.o.v a.g.e.n.c.i.e.s can inspect anyone's Internet history going back 5 to 10 years and know everywhere you've ever been online. I know because my X did it to me once to show she could. Yup, she worked or works for big brother. She told me every place I'd ever been online since I first got a computer 10 years earlier (even through several computers). Even places online I'd forgotten ever having been, but when she read me the list of where I'd been, I then recalled going to those places, even if years before. Her list was accurate. Lucky for me that I'm law abiding, and she only did it just to show off her skills. I was very impressed, and a bit freaked out.

The US government monitors all gun forums and all forums in general, and also emails and phone calls. Believe it. Someone said my earlier post was paranoid and funny. Well, if you consider having your constitutional rights to privacy regularly violated funny, and someone pointing how how it's done and giving some free advice how to somewhat/partially resist it, then I guess I'm hilarious.

I'm better informed than most citizens and willing to share the information, even though it might cause the government to monitor me more closely for a while (than the random monitoring they do to all of us all the time). So if that's funny, then laugh away. However, I'm so clean and boring they'll fall asleep if monitoring me since I and all my friends are law abiding, and natural born citizens who don't travel outside the country, nor do we have any international phone calls. i.e. - I'm not worth any special monitoring attention as they'll soon find out if they give me any extra monitoring. I'm a boring yawn a minute.

The media and anti-gun lobbies also surely do monitor this forum, and all gun forums.

Believe it. It's fact.

I'm not accusing any individual posters or thread starters of phishing for information, but it's possible. However, regardless of whether that has happened here, I guarantee that passive monitoring is taking place all the time by multiple gov a*g*e*n*c*i*e*s, the media, and the anti-gun lobby. One or more of those may well also be phishing and/or posting too. If passive monitoring by their computers (with special programs) flags a keyword, then that poster's posts get actively monitored for a while (by a live agent, which might soon include monitoring their phone calls and emails too). They can get your phone number from your email address. Even unlisted cell phone numbers.

If nothing bad is found, then the subject person gets moved off the active watch list back to passive monitoring by computer. The bulk of the population is only passively monitored, but a minority are also actively monitored because they've set off red flags due to use of certain keywords in type or verbally, or by certain actions (such as traveling to certain foreign nations). i.e. - everyone is passively monitored, and if certain key words, phrases, or actions/behaviors set off red flags, then the unnamed agencies' computer(s) flag that person for active monitoring for a period of time.

Most or all of this has been published by the media before.

Passive monitoring by computer automation is for sure taking place all the time. Active monitoring (with manual reading/lurking and possibly with phishing posts, etc) might also be occuring and could potentially lead to other active monitoring such as phone t.a.p.s and email interceptions/eavesdropping.

Anyone who calls me paranoid is ignorant of the facts, or works for the government and wants to discredit the very accurate information I provided.

Behave yourself in a legal manner on the Internet and in phone calls, and in life in general. If not, big brother will know. Luckily it's easy for me to behave legally since I'm law abiding by nature.

I posted the above because I don't like privacy invasions, especially when unconstitutional. The good news is that if you aren't doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about. Theoretically. However, once the right to privacy is destroyed, our other rights are at greater risk. Such as the right to keep and bear arms is at risk and invasion of privacy is one tool used to undermine all our other rights, including 2nd Amendment rights.

Yes, it's possible that newbies at the forum are just curious and ask in innocent curiousity what guns we may have, but it's also guaranteed that passive monitoring and sometimes active monitoring occur here by various infiltrators who have various agendas that are counterproductive to 2nd Amendment rights. That includes infiltrators from the anti-gun lobbies and the media, as well as the government.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Anyone who calls me paranoid is ignorant of the facts, or works for the government and wants to discredit the very accurate information I provided.

Or maybe they just recognize the fact that you're either extremely gullible or fabricating the story. Seriously, you're saying the government agencies have the ability monitor everyone's internet habits across various computers and produce a ten year history, yet this monitoring can be defeated by simply inserting spaces, periods, or asterisks between the letters.

If you actually had this supposed ex-girlfriend, which seems pretty suspect, and she told you all this, she probably still giggles when she thinks about all the crap she got you to believe and continue to regurgitate years later. Come on, Chuck, you can't seriously believe this nonsense.

 

[ZMP_CTR]

blah blah blah conspiracy theory blah blah blah

 

[Treo]

I think I've said this before but I have no problem believing our government is crooked enough, I just don't believe they're compatent enough

 

[RPCVYemen]

Why do I know this ****? Because I use to date a government agent who wasn't supposed to tell me this stuff, but guess what? He or she did told me.

I dated the same agent - Nead Tu Gno, right.

Seriously, if you dated anyone who told you that, either they weren't an agent much longer.

I was a 4th of July party at the embassy in Mogadishu, play croquet - on what was patch of dirt called a "lawn" there. A really drunk guy came up an told me how he worked for Naval Intelligence and how cool that was. I thought, "I bet you won't much longer."

I kicked around two places where there was a lot of spy v. spy games being played - Sana'a, Yemen and Mogadishu, Somalia. The absolute rule is anyone who's talking about spook work is lying. One time in that four years, do to an odd circumstance, I had a "need to know" something, and was told something. It was an odd social occasion. The individual involved got some kind of permission, and told me the exact minimum I need to know.

Mike

 

[Treo]

The absolute rule is anyone who's talking about spook work is lying.

Said the man talking about spook work

 

[magillagorilla]

my wife got twisted in the shorts when she saw I put my cell number on facebook. I can only imagine what she would do if I posted a pic of my collection online. Not that she wears the pants or anything. Oh crap.... Gotta go.

 

[everallm]

First off, I hate to disappoint folks but guess what.......as far as Uncles Sam etc are concerned we're neither worrisome nor particularly interesting, get used to it.

 

[22-rimfire]

Any you wonder why Obama's people want to know your online "handles" as a precondition to employment????

As part of a secret security clearance, you would be amazed what the government finds out about you.

The question becomes whether or not folks on gun forums are "of interest" for the most part. I say NO, but if you post some things that are suggestive of illegal activities or continuing illegal activities, I believe you will be flagged for observation until time that you are determined to not be a threat. The Secret Service plays hard ball and so does the FBI and Homeland Security as a group. Get used to it. Big Brother does watch, but not to the extent that some would suggest. You have to give them a reason and owning 20 guns is probably not a reason (yet).

 

[RPCVYemen]

Said the man talking about spook work.

I might be. But I was in Peace Corps, and there are a lot of firewalls against PCVs or RPCVs doing spook work.

Just to be clear, the social situation that required me to know something was not spook work. I was asked not to know someone.

I was told that I would not know someone who would be present in the social situation, even though I did if fact know that person from another social situation. That's all I ever knew about it. Before telling me even that much, the "need to know" principle was explained to me. I had never heard of "need to know" before that.

I inferred a reverse honey trap was going on, but no one told me a thing, and I didn't ask. I got to eat some good food, and at least look at one of the hottest Russian babes I have ever seen. But as a lowly Peace Corps Volunteer, I was definitely not a player in the honey trap. Nobody cares about PCVs - I was more or less wallpaper. And I may have been very wrong about what was going on.

And maybe I am lying about being a Peace Corps Volunteer.

Mike

 

[Monkeybear]

It is a conspiracy! The aluminum foil industry has teamed up with Cheaper Than Dirt and 5.11 Tactical to drive up sales through the propagation of paranoid speculation. Sales of tactical pants, faux army surplus and foil is up almost 4% this week just from this thread alone.

I suspect Wbond and the OP are agents of misinformation for this shadow organization.

 

[wbond]

FYI - the person who said she wouldn't be an agent much longer was correct. She was terminally ill and she and I both already knew that at the time.

FYI - I never posted my first name here and it's not part of my forum username. How is it that Jorg posted my first name in a reply to me after I posted on this topic? Jorg?

OK then. Believe what you will. It's no skin off my nose if your privacy is invaded all the time and some of you are to naive and uninformed to believe it, while some of you are likely infiltrators. It is sad because once our right to privacy is destroyed (it already is), our other rights are next on the chopping block, starting with 2nd Amendment rights.

I think many of you are far-right enough that you didn't mind B*u*s*h Jr's minions invading your privacy. However, now it will be O*b*a*m*a's minions for 4 years, and they do want to diminish your gun ownership rights and other freedoms.

My X also laughed about how the G discredits citizens who try to tell by making references to them being paranoid wackos and making jokes about tinfoil hats, etc. Well ha ha. I wonder if those who did that to me here are all naive aholes, or if at least one might be a gov agent.

The good news for me is that if none of you believe me, the gov probably won't bother me about having posted it. If they do, they'll find I'm a very law abiding and boring person.

That said, I won't mention these topics again anyplace because there is no point in risking incurring the wrath of Uncle Sam by trying to educate people who won't believe me anyway.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

FYI - I never posted my first name here and it's not part of my forum username. How is it that Jorg posted my first name in a reply to me after I posted on this topic? Jorg?

Let's see, there are two equally plausible options:

Option A) I am one of your "likely infiltrators", a government agent who is tracking the whereabouts and discussions of gun owners on this and other boards, including compiling lists of what they own, where they shoot, their politcal leanings, as well as all the personal information I can find. I do this from an unmarked building in Fairfax Dr in Arlington. In my haste to discredit you per SOP, I made a mistake and used your first name discovered through our elaborate network of data mining systems, thus blowing my cover and years worth of intelligence gathering, forcing me to switch to one of my other IDs here, which I will further use to mock those who have discovered the true nature of Project Saraswati.

Option B) You posted your name not once, but four times on this forum, and took the bait (hook, line, and sinker) to fabricate a conspiracy theory out of that, effectively discrediting yourself and giving us all a good laugh at your expense.

Personally, I'm leaning towards option A. I recommend you do the same, citizen.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Let's see, there are two equally plausible options:

Option A) I am one of your "likely infiltrators", a government agent who is tracking the whereabouts and discussions of gun owners on this and other boards, including compiling lists of what they own, where they shoot, their politcal leanings, as well as all the personal information I can find. I do this from an unmarked building in Fairfax Dr in Arlington. In my haste to discredit you per SOP, I made a mistake and used your first name discovered through our elaborate network of data mining systems, thus blowing my cover and years worth of intelligence gathering, forcing me to switch to one of my other IDs here, which I will further use to mock those who have discovered the true nature of Project Saraswati.

Option B) You posted your name not once, but four times on this forum, and took the bait (hook, line, and sinker) to fabricate a conspiracy theory out of that, effectively discrediting yourself and giving us all a good laugh at your expense.

Personally, I'm leaning towards option A. I recommend you do the same, citizen.

Now that's funny right there - I don't care who you are!

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Chuck?

You might want to review, for example, [post=2147973]this post[/post].

Hello all. My name is Chuck. I am the person with the hand problems who first raised these issues with one of your senior members.

There are other posts where you sign yourself as "Chuck (the recoil sensitive guy)" so don't be too impressed with Jorg's having found your name.

 

[22-rimfire]

Oh, that is funny!!!! I needed a chuckle!

 

[boom boom]

As one of those people who posts seldomly, I (to paraphrase RMN) am not an infiltrator! In all seriousness, some members of this or other online firearms fora happen to be government agents who like firearms. Needless to say, I am not one of them but merely a humble academic who studies legal issues.

If you are bragging in a post about your latest illegal act in front of a law enforcement agent, then expect a visit. LEO's are duty-bound not to ignore crimes. For example, I knew a woman who managed a quickie mart and who had a regular client who got coffee there every day. One day he started bragging about how he avoided paying income taxes, how taxes were illegal, etc. The manager frantically tried to shush him because she saw another regular client in her store who happened to be an IRS field agent. Unfortunately, the guy blabbing about the evils of the IRS couldn't take a hint and soon left on his merry way. The IRS agent watched him pull away and calmly wrote down the blabberer's license plate number.

As far as myself, I believe in the 5th Amendment--what you don't say nor post can't be used as probable cause.

 

[KBintheSLC]

They won't see your IP address unless they view the server logs of who uploaded the photo at imageshack or wherever or a moderator at THR furnishes them with your IP

This can and does happen. All it takes is a subpoena. Hopefully, the administrators on THR have enough balls to set the servers on fire if they make such a request.