Is the Tavor 7 an optic killer like the SCAR-H?

[Scarybullpup]

Hello everyone, I know that the Tavor 7 in 7.62x51 is fairly new but for those who have shot it at least a few or so times, how would the recoil impulse compare to a SCAR-H? Do you think the Tavor 7’s recoil impulse kills optics?

Also, which budget scopes out there/ the cheapest scopes that can at least take the recoil impulse of a Scar-H; I want it to be at least 8x zoom with some sort of BDC or an MOA/MIL reticle.

Thank you.

 

[Kano383]

For what it's worth... Some time ago I bought a $100 Bushnell 3x9 to put on my loaners (hunting rifles for clients), because I didn't see any sense in putting a $2,500 Swarovski on a rifle that would hang off the back of the cab offroad, and be carried by less-than-delicate trackers' hands.

Installed on a 9.3x62 and a .375 H&H over the years. That thing got banged around, scraped on the ground, thrown on rocks (got a good sized dent on the ocular for that), but never lost zero.

My guess is that SCAR's recoil is not on the same rung up the ladder as a .375...

 

[tarosean]

My guess is that SCAR's recoil is not on the same rung up the ladder as a .375...

Your typical 375 doesn't have a reciprocating bolt. So we are talking about very different animals.

A ton of lesser caliber guns are known as scope killers because of the reciprocating mass.


Sorry OP I dont have experience with the 7vH

 

[<*(((><]

Your typical 375 doesn't have a reciprocating bolt. So we are talking about very different animals.

A ton of lesser caliber guns are known as scope killers because of the reciprocating mass.

Can you say Mini-14

 

[wally]

I have an inexpensive Primary Arms 5X prismatic scope on my SCAR 17S. Very effective on steel plates out to 400 yards (furthest I have access to). Its held up perfectly so far.

I don't consider the SCAR to be "heavy recoiling". Its among the lightest weight .308 I've ever shot, but the highly effective muzzle brake makes it to me, a soft shooter for the caliber.

The reciprocating mass thing is very real, spring piston air rifles have earned a reputation for eating up "nomal" rifle scopes, its why they also make "air rifle" scopes.

 

[LoonWulf]

I wonder if airgun rated scopes would stand up better, they are usually reinforced to deal with the sudden forward acceleration that the Piston can cause. I'd bet THATS nastier then the bolt slamming home as the rifle is still in recoil.

Leupys might have an edge there, they are all airgun rated.

 

[Demi-human]

Also, which budget scopes out there/ the cheapest scopes that can at least take the recoil impulse of...

...$2200.00 Rifle.

Maybe the bottom is not where to start?

 

[Scarybullpup]

...$2200.00 Rifle.

Maybe the bottom is not where to start?

True. But after spending $3000 (cost of Tavor 7 in Canada) I guess I put myself in a tight budget.

 

[CraigC]

Didn't know the SCAR17 was a scope killer. The Leupold on Dad's seems to be holding up okay, though it doesn't have thousands of rounds through it.

I think before I put a cheap optic on a $3000 rifle, I'd use some "cheap" irons until I could afford a good scope.

 

[WisBorn]

For what it's worth... Some time ago I bought a $100 Bushnell 3x9 to put on my loaners (hunting rifles for clients), because I didn't see any sense in putting a $2,500 Swarovski on a rifle that would hang off the back of the cab offroad, and be carried by less-than-delicate trackers' hands.

Installed on a 9.3x62 and a .375 H&H over the years. That thing got banged around, scraped on the ground, thrown on rocks (got a good sized dent on the ocular for that), but never lost zero.

My guess is that SCAR's recoil is not on the same rung up the ladder as a .375...

I agree with your thoughts!
Buy the tool for the job at hand! I love Leopold's, but I don't throw on a high dollar one if the rifle will be used in thick brush and shot less than 100 yards.

 

[Demi-human]

True. But after spending $3000 (cost of Tavor 7 in Canada) I guess I put myself in a tight budget.

I know exactly what you are talking about...

A sixteen hundred dollar rifle needs a sixteen hundred dollar scope.
But a CrossfireII was on it for a while before the Golden Eagle...

 

[wally]

What is the OP's definition of a "cheap scope"? Right now the sweet spot in the market is $300-500 price range from makers with good warranties should they not hold up.

Before considering a scope what kind of shooting are you planning to do? For all around shooting ~500 yards max, there are a ton of good $3-500 scopes in the 3-9X, 4-16X range. I gave my choice for my SCAR-17S ("cheap" Prinary Arms 5X .308 BDC prismatic) and I've not regretted it, perfect for the "battle rifle" type shooing I do with it on IPSC-style steel plates out to 400 yards.

I may be in the minority, but unless you are actually expecting combat, shooting at targets 600+ yards away, or threatening to win F-class competitions, most folks are better off with a "main stream" $3-500 scope and use the savings for more ammo and range time, independent of how much money you've spent on the rifle.

If money is not object just get a NightForce and be done with it. But I prefer to put my "gun money" into guns and ammo, and only buy enough scope to overcome limitations of my "old eyes" for the type of shooting I plan to do with it. My optics money goes to cameras for my other serious hobby -- photography. I don't think I owned a rifle with a scope until I was in my 40s.

 

[Demi-human]

I don't think I owned a rifle with a scope until I was in my 40s.

Sure, rub it in...
My my first BB gun didn’t come with a scope...
I had to put one on it!

 

[LoonWulf]

Sure, rub it in...
My my first BB gun didn’t come with a scope...
I had to put one on it!

ditto........

 

[Nature Boy]

The army put Leupold Mk4s on a lot of rifles, including the M14, which is also known to be hard on scopes.

 

[Scarybullpup]

Okay so I ended up buying a Primary Arms 1-6x24 FFP Raptor ACSS reticle. I know it didn’t meet my criteria of at least 8x zoom but it met my criteria of cheap and robust. My definition of cheap really was about under $800 Canadian. I went with this scope due to Garand Thumbs extensive torture test on the Optic on a Scar-H and it survived as well as Rex Review’s video. It’s hard to go wrong with these optics. I was gonna go with the 1-8x24 version in sfp but that wasn’t as proven.

Kind of off topic but I don’t really want to spam with a new thread but my Tavor 7 is marked 7.62x51 and I was wondering if it is safe to put a .308 through it?

 

[Demi-human]

Yup.