Is there a metallurgical purpose for nickel plating,,,

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Is there a metallurgical purpose for nickel plating,,,
Or was it purely a cosmetic bling thing?

I showed a friend my nickel model 36 and he asked,,,
I honestly don't know what to tell him.

Was it originally supposed to be a rust preventative or something?

Also, when did nickel plating first appear?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Aarond

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Unbroken nickel plating is more corrosion resistant than even hard chrome.
It couldn't have been too expensive to do, a lot of the cheap revolvers of the late 19th were more common in nickel than blue.
I don't know when the very first was, but nickel plate started showing up in quantity ca 1870. Some earlier guns like S&W tipups were silver plated.
The Quackenbush air rifle company was known for good quality plating. Their last product was the common nickel plated nutcracker.
 
Nickel was yesteryear's stainless steel when used on handguns to prevent corrosion and rust. It has the added benefits of making the surface harder while providing a nice look. Today, nickel collector grade guns often bring more money than their blued counterparts. I think that Jim Watson (above) is about right about the time that nickel showed up from the major manufacturers of the day.
 
Nickel plating has been used as a method of corrosion resistance for 150 years. It wasn't until after WWII that ammunition itself was non corrosive when manufacture changed to non corrosive primers. Nickle plating still makes a striking and easily maintained finish.
 
I was used for corrosion resistance on many other products as well. Wood or coal cooking and heating stoves are one example.
 
It was very popular particularly in wet or humid climates. Very effective against sweat.

It resists normal wear better than blueing or parkerizing. If deeply scratched though rust can begin. But that's to be expected.

Be aware that some ammonia based cleaning products like Hoppe's No. 9 will harm the nickel. Hoppe's Elite won't. The product will usually say on the label whether or not it can be used on nickel. If not make sure to ask.

tipoc
 
If you hang around modern gun folks, it's easy to get the idea that nickel itself is some kind of flimsy material (the Tommy Lee Jones "nickel-plated sissy-pistol" line comes to mind). But the cores of jet engines make heavy use of nickel, because it's so good at tolerating high temperatures and retaining strength in hellish environments.
 
Aarond

The metal on some guns may require a layer of copper plating before the nickel plating can be applied. This is because the nickel plating may not bond to the metal surface without it. As such I have always avoided using any kind of copper solvent on my guns as this can cause the copper plating to be removed, taking the nickel plating with it. With proper care nickel plating can last a very long time.

 
Properly applied Nickel finish that is not broken (i.e. not cracked or peeling) is more corrosion resistant than stainless steel. I have had stainless steel guns rust whereas nickel finished ones did not when exposed to the same condition.

I have a stainless steel 1911 that I keep considering having Hard Chrome or Electroless Nickel done. I think with the base S.S. and finish it will be as close to a truly rust proof firearm a person can get.
 
Once upon a time, someone who was doing some work for me got very upset when I gave him some chrome plated parts for a '47 Indian Chief, that were originally nickle plated. :uhoh:
 
Up until about 5 years ago there was a place near me that did nickel and other types of plating. Mostly to restore antiques. I had some parts of an old wood stove plated there . Lack of demand and EPA regs shut them down.
 
Nickel plating is a 19th Century rust prevention technology. Nothing else existed then.
Now, nickel is just pretty. It's really not very good at preventing rust. Flakes off too easily.
Chrome, that dates from the 1920's, isn't much better. And is toxic. Chrome is applied after copper and nickel anyway.
Hard chrome is a different thing altogether. Mind you, there are better newer finishes that beat it all to Hades.
 
Plating processes were about rust prevention. Going thru the steps means alot of degreasing, and if the final goal is a bright reflective chrome it also takes a lot of expensive hand polishing and buffing between coats. Done poorly the lines and edges of a firearm get blurred.

Lots of older knives were done that way and many imports got the treatment, too. Since the edge was ground and finished to bare metal the contrast between carbon steel and nickel plate would be night and day. That edge would also allow entry under the plating for corrosion. It was still better than no plating at all, and for the better grades of knives preferred. A lot of presentation blades got the treatment, as did ceremonial swords and holiday carving sets.

Once stainless could be done in equivalent metals or at least affordably the change came around, the '60s saw the introduction. We were already used to the look, better grade guns were doing it, so a stainless slide with matte finish looked like electroless nickel. For most intents and purposes of the gun owner it performed about the same in resisting corrosion. When the EPA started cracking down on requirements for plating then stainless got a big boost in replacing the look. Auto makers went to vacuum plated aluminum for trim and that was the look of the '80s in cars and guns. Big honking stainless auto pistols and aluminum bumpers on the economy cars because gas was so expensive - up to $1.65 a gallon. Yuuuge price increase.

The guns are collectible, the cars, not so much. Plating died in that era as the haz mat costs were too high. In knives stainless was the practical and commodity choice. Solingen still made plated blades but they were long out of style. Gunmakers didn't offer the finish much and the few smiths that did plate charged accordingly. Still do.

While stainless does literally mean that it will stain less than carbon steel, it can be restored to it's original finish with inexpensive use of the proper abrasives - grit pads or bead blasting. Nickel, however, requires stripping, the affected area cleaned up, which could create ripples in the finish, and replating. Gets complicated and expensive.
 
I used to work in a chrome plating shop. (until I started coughing up blood, and my co-worker said "You get used to it." :uhoh: ) First the steel is degreased, then immersed in a weak acid solution to prepare it to receive the copper base layer, then immersed in a rinse, again in a light acid solution, then the nickel. Guns stop at this stage, because going on to chrome it would add too much metal and change critical dimensions.

Once upon a time, someone who was doing some work for me got very upset when I gave him some chrome plated parts for a '47 Indian Chief, that were originally nickle plated. :uhoh:

Chrome don't get ya home, Stoky! ;)

While chrome plated parts (particularly 'show chrome") on a bike look nice, they do not shed heat well, and can cause problems on long runs.

During my short stint at the chrome shop, every biker I knew was my best buddy, trying to get me to plate stuff for them. The only thing of mine I did was my brass Colt 'snake' belt buckle. Only one I've seen like it. My son has it now.
 
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I don't know of any cheap firearms that were nickle plated? There were tons of them made with chrome plating. The chrome plating was used for years to cover up tool marks and castings. Nickle does not flake off as does chrome.
The Japanese used chrome plating in the Arisaka barrels to speed up production. This was much faster than removing tool marks.
 
High zoot chrome is usually multiple coats of copper (where surface imperfections are ground/polished out) then nickel, then thin chrome. Chrome is waaaaay harder than nickel, which is actually what makes it chip.
Chrome don't get ya home, Stoky! ;)
The other half of that saying ain't allowed hereabouts. :p
 
I talked to a very knowledge Smith and Wesson expert about nickle plating. It is my recollection that he stated parts intended to be nickle plated were made a little undersized, the plating thickness would make up the difference. I believe this is true as I had a nickle plated P-38. The veteran who brought it back from the war had it plated and there were issues due to the plating thickness. It was one of the most accurate P-38's I fired as the frame, barrel, slide fit was tight!

The S&W expert claimed that the factory increased the depth of lettering, engraving, before plating. Also, there was a factory mark if the pistol was re plated, or, if the pistol was plated and it was originally blued.

What I don't know, is why pistols were not chrome plated, either back then, or now. Is there a problem with chrome and sliding surfaces?
 
Originally they couldn't nickel plate the screws because it made them brittle (which is why early Colts have blued screws). Subsequently the process was changed.
 
Shiny chrome doesn't hold lube well and has a high coefficient of friction.
Hard chrome aka Thin Dense Chrome has less friction than steel and can be less than half a thousandths thick.
not so bling though
 
I don't know of any cheap firearms that were nickle plated? There were tons of them made with chrome plating. The chrome plating was used for years to cover up tool marks and castings. Nickle does not flake off as does chrome.
The Japanese used chrome plating in the Arisaka barrels to speed up production. This was much faster than removing tool marks.

Practically any gun made before 1945 that was "bright" plated was nickel plated, including huge numbers of cheap top-break revolvers in the United States. Cheap bright chrome plating did not come in until after WWII. I do not know why. The oldest guns I can think of with factory bright chrome plate are Spanish automatics from the 1950's. OTOH, on cheap guns, bright chrome is now the rule when bright plating is desired.
 
Nickel plating may have originally been intended for rust prevention, but there is little doubt that when the process was new (c. 1860), it became a matter of what we call "bling", just a way of making and showing off a shiny possession. Guns were not the only items to be nickel plated in that period; tons of household items from button hooks to stoves were nickel plated, purely as a matter of showing off. The the New York, Chicago and St. Lours Railroad got the nickname "Nickel Plate Road" when William Vanderbilt and Jay Gould competed in trying to buy it; Vanderbilt was successful, but the cost was so high that he reportedly said that it "might as well have been nickel plated" and the name stuck.

Dog Soldier's remark about not knowing of cheap nickel plated guns is odd;. As others noted, almost all the cheap guns of the 1870-1940 era were nickel plated. Chrome plating did not become common for guns until after WWII; when many gun barrels were chrome plated to resist corrosion from the priming compounds of the period. (Nickel plate was too soft to resist the wear involved in firing a bullet down a rifle barrel.).

Jim
 
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The Model A Fords used chrome plating on the head lights. That was 1927-1931 well before WWII. Experimentation with chrome to replace nickle began before 1900. Many of the cheap depression pistols were chrome plated. There was a rush to replace the more expensive nickle with other metal plating.

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