hello,i'm new to this forum but over time of just searching information on the internet thehighroad seems to come up the winner with knowledgable people and that's why i'm here now.at first my question may appear to be easy but i suspect that it may end up not being so.also,i would like to appologize for not using capital letters at the begging of sentences but i will do so when necessary.my spelling sometimes also stinks.
tiny bit of background:i have several pistols and rifle.i am not new to firearms.i am young enough to have begun with DA/SA.my logic with pistols has always been that if someone can train to be efficient with "cocked and locked" then they can also train to be efficient with a heavy DA pull.however,i have recently encountered a dilema.i have been totally spoiled by my current favorite pistol.anyone that has ever taken a tactical course will quickly see why many people love SA.in a self defence situation,however,i still prefer DA/SA.both sides have merit,imo.the key for me seems to be finding the right pistol.
the pistol that has spoiled me is the walther p99AS.it has a DA pull of 8.8lbs and is smooth with no creep,very slight stacking and clean let off.i really do not wish to go back now to the aweful DA pulls that traditional pistols like berettas and CZs etc. have.this may seem simple but i'm hoping that you hang in there to see that it probably is not.i hope i'm wrong.
here's my question.i'm looking for something that's sort of a combination target/combat/every day pistol that's also reliable.
criteria:
1)must have a 5" barrel or very close to it,like 4.9" or 4.7" but not lower.(i may be willing to accept 4.5")slightly over is ok.
2)ability to accept fibre optic front sight,stock or aftermarket.this is not necessary on rear sight.(i may be willing to give this up,not sure.)
3)high capacity mags.this is simple enough and won't complicate it by asking for specific round count.
4)here's the tricky one.must have a DA pull no greater than 9lbs without replacing the main spring.
5)mid $600 and under.if you know of one over please tell me so.
bare with me.many people have,for example,replaced there main springs on there berettas with the famous "D" spring or sending there CZs off to the custom shop or getting a sp-01 shadow from get go or any number of pistols with any number of mods and then going off to say that they have fired XXX number of rounds without any problems.what they don't say,is that they have done this under favorable conditions with quality ammo and probably cleaning every 100 rounds or so.what they don't tell you is,they have done this under unfavorable conditions,possibly not having a chance to clean there pistols for what ever reasons and especially with cheap ammo,like s&b or what ever, which you may be forced to do but still need reliable primer strikes.if you have done a mod like this,just pretend you have to go to war with it and tell me if you trust it.
what i have come up with is:
1)get another p99 and put in a 5" barrel,20 round mags with extention,sights,etc...this is too much,like $900 plus
2)the h&k p30L LEM comes close but i already have another h&k and don't wish to drop this kind of money.plus,i find the SIG DAK triggers counter-intuitive.
3)give up my needs for DA/SA and just get a S&W M&P9 pro series but i want to exhaust all my options first.
4)the taurus oss comes close with a DA pull of about 8lbs. 15oz. but once decocked you can't set it back to SA without racking the slide and ejecting an unfired round which i don't like to do for several reasons.they also have alot of permanent slack in SA which i don't like.
of note:the FNP is an interesting design.they seem not to use the traditional maine spring and ark movement of other pistols but alas no 5" barrel.i've held one and they seem to have the pull i'm looking for and even a colored trigger spring that seems changeable.
anyway,enough of my ramblings,let the fun begin.it will probably be short but who knows.help me obi one your my only hope.
why more manufactures don't take full advantage with the efficiency that strker fired systems offer and make them also in DA/SA is beyond me.
tiny bit of background:i have several pistols and rifle.i am not new to firearms.i am young enough to have begun with DA/SA.my logic with pistols has always been that if someone can train to be efficient with "cocked and locked" then they can also train to be efficient with a heavy DA pull.however,i have recently encountered a dilema.i have been totally spoiled by my current favorite pistol.anyone that has ever taken a tactical course will quickly see why many people love SA.in a self defence situation,however,i still prefer DA/SA.both sides have merit,imo.the key for me seems to be finding the right pistol.
the pistol that has spoiled me is the walther p99AS.it has a DA pull of 8.8lbs and is smooth with no creep,very slight stacking and clean let off.i really do not wish to go back now to the aweful DA pulls that traditional pistols like berettas and CZs etc. have.this may seem simple but i'm hoping that you hang in there to see that it probably is not.i hope i'm wrong.
here's my question.i'm looking for something that's sort of a combination target/combat/every day pistol that's also reliable.
criteria:
1)must have a 5" barrel or very close to it,like 4.9" or 4.7" but not lower.(i may be willing to accept 4.5")slightly over is ok.
2)ability to accept fibre optic front sight,stock or aftermarket.this is not necessary on rear sight.(i may be willing to give this up,not sure.)
3)high capacity mags.this is simple enough and won't complicate it by asking for specific round count.
4)here's the tricky one.must have a DA pull no greater than 9lbs without replacing the main spring.
5)mid $600 and under.if you know of one over please tell me so.
bare with me.many people have,for example,replaced there main springs on there berettas with the famous "D" spring or sending there CZs off to the custom shop or getting a sp-01 shadow from get go or any number of pistols with any number of mods and then going off to say that they have fired XXX number of rounds without any problems.what they don't say,is that they have done this under favorable conditions with quality ammo and probably cleaning every 100 rounds or so.what they don't tell you is,they have done this under unfavorable conditions,possibly not having a chance to clean there pistols for what ever reasons and especially with cheap ammo,like s&b or what ever, which you may be forced to do but still need reliable primer strikes.if you have done a mod like this,just pretend you have to go to war with it and tell me if you trust it.
what i have come up with is:
1)get another p99 and put in a 5" barrel,20 round mags with extention,sights,etc...this is too much,like $900 plus
2)the h&k p30L LEM comes close but i already have another h&k and don't wish to drop this kind of money.plus,i find the SIG DAK triggers counter-intuitive.
3)give up my needs for DA/SA and just get a S&W M&P9 pro series but i want to exhaust all my options first.
4)the taurus oss comes close with a DA pull of about 8lbs. 15oz. but once decocked you can't set it back to SA without racking the slide and ejecting an unfired round which i don't like to do for several reasons.they also have alot of permanent slack in SA which i don't like.
of note:the FNP is an interesting design.they seem not to use the traditional maine spring and ark movement of other pistols but alas no 5" barrel.i've held one and they seem to have the pull i'm looking for and even a colored trigger spring that seems changeable.
anyway,enough of my ramblings,let the fun begin.it will probably be short but who knows.help me obi one your my only hope.
why more manufactures don't take full advantage with the efficiency that strker fired systems offer and make them also in DA/SA is beyond me.
