Is this the latest Colt M4 Commando?
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madmike
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Could be anything. That upper could be aftermarket.
That's the neat thing about the AR series--a Legogun.
That's the neat thing about the AR series--a Legogun.
Tarvis
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Is he using a loop sling?
hatchetbearer
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he better be engaging a target.....
Chrome
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What's so interesting about the two point sling he's using? Used like that it makes an excellent Hasty sling. I use mine the exact same way.
Later,
Chrome...
Later,
Chrome...
This is a friend who is a Green Beret.
Some of you guys are pretty funny. Of course he's engaging a target. Others pointed that out from the photo. Right now, he isn't around to ask, that's why I posted here...
Let me add that A has done three tours in Iraq and has been elsewhere. He knows what he's doing. He's smart, educated, experienced, tough, loyal, and charismatic. We and his family are proud of him. And yeah, the gals love him.
Some of you guys are pretty funny. Of course he's engaging a target. Others pointed that out from the photo. Right now, he isn't around to ask, that's why I posted here...
Let me add that A has done three tours in Iraq and has been elsewhere. He knows what he's doing. He's smart, educated, experienced, tough, loyal, and charismatic. We and his family are proud of him. And yeah, the gals love him.
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hatchetbearer
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i was referring to finger on the trigger.
TexasRifleman
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He's gonna have hearing problems later on using those crappy foam plugs.
Ask me how I know.....
Is that all they give the guys?
Shung
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look like a Mk18 upper to me.. isnt it ?
kcmarine
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Don't believe so. The upper might be, but the buttstock is not the newer version.
Shung
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sure, usually the use the LMT for the stock..
but it seems a 10.3" barrel to me.
but it seems a 10.3" barrel to me.
HorseSoldier
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It looks like a standard M4A1 lower, with a 10.5" upper.
It's not the "latest M4," but a lot of SF units have purchased 10.5" or other short barrel uppers for their team guys. I've seen LMTs and Noveskes (as well as 416s) -- and that's just internal to the Group I'm assigned to. Uppers can be purchased by units, since they're not a firearm, and so you can get variation by group, battalion, company and even ODA, depending on what they spent their op fund on, etc. Can't tell from the picture who's upper he's using, but that's a pretty common configuration for the M4 these days in SF circles (when mission appropriate).
It's not the "latest M4," but a lot of SF units have purchased 10.5" or other short barrel uppers for their team guys. I've seen LMTs and Noveskes (as well as 416s) -- and that's just internal to the Group I'm assigned to. Uppers can be purchased by units, since they're not a firearm, and so you can get variation by group, battalion, company and even ODA, depending on what they spent their op fund on, etc. Can't tell from the picture who's upper he's using, but that's a pretty common configuration for the M4 these days in SF circles (when mission appropriate).
Bartholomew Roberts
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Hmmm... I notice he is running a Gasbuster on an otherwise fairly stock shorty.
kcmarine
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For a suppressor? I've never gotten the point of the gasbuster... do explain.
earlthegoat2
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i wouldnt worry about the finger on the trigger that is the safest safety device those guys know. they keep their weapons loaded to encourage responsibility with them.
PS im sure the foam plugs work fine. Not like a fifty or anything.
PS im sure the foam plugs work fine. Not like a fifty or anything.
DoubleTapDrew
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Do they usually shoot Mk262 in those shortys? Seems like the barrel is so short you aren't going to get fragmentation with M855 unless you are running towards the target at 300fps while firing. They do look maneuverable and have a high chicks-dig-it factor.
NonConformist
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Im amazed they look at the pic then slam an operator for his trigger finger, looks like hes shooting to me! Notice the smoke from the ejection port?
Geeze
Dad taught me a similar thing w/ an old 2 point sling, keep it tight enough so you can use your left elbow inside the sling to provide stability
After all, its not like they have time to don their shooting jackets and put a leather target sling on to do it 'properly'
Combat shooting is worlds different than target shooting!
Geeze
Dad taught me a similar thing w/ an old 2 point sling, keep it tight enough so you can use your left elbow inside the sling to provide stability
After all, its not like they have time to don their shooting jackets and put a leather target sling on to do it 'properly'
Combat shooting is worlds different than target shooting!
ctdonath
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A suppressor works by retaining the otherwise muzzle-expelled gasses. This in turn results in those gasses blowing out every orifice in the gun. One of these is the rather generous spacing around the charging handle. Upshot is that firing an AR15/M16/M4 with a suppressor gives you a facefull of stinky choke-inducing smoke (trust me).
The gasbuster apparently redirects the most obnoxious of the gasses away from the operator's face, letting one breathe without distraction.
HorseSoldier
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And you don't keep your weapon up in your face like that, except when engaging.
Just depends on what is available. People on the internet spend tons more time sweating fragmentation range of 5.56mm ammo than any ODA member I've ever met. Put bullets into a guy COM and he's not likely to keep doing whatever he was doing, even if the bullets don't fragment.
From a poolee who has little info the way things work in the military, much less in an SF unit you sure sound like you have some juice. Maybe you should get some real experience before you criticize someone who most likely has more time on an ODA than you have in puberty.
If you knew much about guns or shooting you would see the little blur in the middle of his glasses and know it was not a beauty mark, but instead a spent shell casing. You would also notice that the bolt was not all the way seated and engaged, meaning that it is closing on a new round. Yeah, you could bet he is engaging a target.
Kind of Blued
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That was a rather low road remark for a high road moderator. 
JeepGeeek
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but it WAS dead to right accurate of him to say.
PercyShelley
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That gun looks like it's seen some honest use!
Given that most of the wear is on the lower, I wonder if that short barreled upper is a recent attachment?
Given that most of the wear is on the lower, I wonder if that short barreled upper is a recent attachment?
If the upper is a Colt, it would appear to be from an RO933 or "Colt Commando", which has an 11.5" barrel. Available on the commercial market in the semi-auto only model 6933.
Mostly stock 6933 with Ops suppressor mount
It could, however, be a 10.5" barrel as it would be pretty hard to make out a 1" difference in that picture. Frankly, it really wouldn't matter anyway.
There does also appear to be a Gas Buster, which as posted above is generally used to divert blow-back gases out of the shooter's face when firing suppressed. The Gas Buster is also beefier all around and some people just prefer it.
While he doesn't have a suppressor mount, not all suppressors require a mount. Both the Gem Tech Halo and the Advanced Armament Omni can be mounted directly to the birdcage flash hider.
Not sure why the old stock, unless the upper was just added to an older gun or whatever, or maybe the shooter just prefers the old-style stock and added it to his new gun.
Mostly stock 6933 with Ops suppressor mount
It could, however, be a 10.5" barrel as it would be pretty hard to make out a 1" difference in that picture. Frankly, it really wouldn't matter anyway.
There does also appear to be a Gas Buster, which as posted above is generally used to divert blow-back gases out of the shooter's face when firing suppressed. The Gas Buster is also beefier all around and some people just prefer it.
While he doesn't have a suppressor mount, not all suppressors require a mount. Both the Gem Tech Halo and the Advanced Armament Omni can be mounted directly to the birdcage flash hider.
Not sure why the old stock, unless the upper was just added to an older gun or whatever, or maybe the shooter just prefers the old-style stock and added it to his new gun.
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