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It is just a movie.
If I feel the overwhelming need to watch and critique real life, I'll go sit on the street corner.
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If I feel the overwhelming need to watch and critique real life, I'll go sit on the street corner.
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Is your action/war film enjoyment reduced?
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Didn't Raylan have a Sig in Justified, at least for some of it?
It would have been nice to have lots of Zeros but there have not been many in flying condition for a long time. A good chunk of the Zero's production is at the bottom of the Pacific.
But, there are still lots of T-6s and SNJs around and a little cosmetics with the canopy, they look similar to the Zero.
In the past, faking airplanes with models or special effects were not very good in my opinion and I'd rather see similar real equipment in use. Special effects today may be good enough though.
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On the other hand, I really enjoy the few movies that Get It Right.
I can still remember seeing the new movie Cross of Iron in a cinema in the late '70s. I was already happy with a lot of what I was seeing on the screen, smallarms-wise (of course, not surprisingly, I had found that they had screwed up the excellent book) ... and then the T34 appeared ... a real "live" T34! WHOA! ... people had to SHUSH! me for awhile after that. I was so happy!
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Meh if everything in movies were real they would be boring as piss
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I'd like to know why Jimmy Stewart turns his rifle on it's side and then snaps it upright onto target in the July Centennial shooting contest to win the 1 of 1000 Winchester "73".
I wonder if it was to level the rifle on the target and a technique some shooters used or just for the movie. It is my favorite part of one of my favorite movies.
Far- fetched shooting of silver dollars thrown in the air too.
Then at the end, they are having a hard time hitting man size targets on a mountain precipice in the final rifle shoot-out.
I wonder if it was to level the rifle on the target and a technique some shooters used or just for the movie. It is my favorite part of one of my favorite movies.
Far- fetched shooting of silver dollars thrown in the air too.
Then at the end, they are having a hard time hitting man size targets on a mountain precipice in the final rifle shoot-out.
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I go to movies for entertainment but sometimes I can't help myself.
Anyone remember " I Come in Peace " with Dolph Lundgrin, at one point he's holding a bad guy a gun point in one scene he holding a pistol to said bad guy's head,dialogue from BG,next scene Dolph is holding a completely different pistol. Have to admit one of my favorite WW II movies " Sahara" with Humphrey Bogart.
Anyone remember " I Come in Peace " with Dolph Lundgrin, at one point he's holding a bad guy a gun point in one scene he holding a pistol to said bad guy's head,dialogue from BG,next scene Dolph is holding a completely different pistol. Have to admit one of my favorite WW II movies " Sahara" with Humphrey Bogart.
Devonai
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He did in the pilot episode, after that he had a Glock 21 (though probably a 17 when they needed to fire blanks).
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Movie gun errors
I think some of the errors happen after filming, in post production. I liked Tom Hanks in 'Road to Perdition' but there were gun scenes where a even good movie could not keep you from going, 'huh?'.
As Our Hero is coming down the hallway in the hotel, 1911 at his side, you hear the slide being released... er,what?
I suspect that someone told the Foley crew to punch up the scene.
I think some of the errors happen after filming, in post production. I liked Tom Hanks in 'Road to Perdition' but there were gun scenes where a even good movie could not keep you from going, 'huh?'.
As Our Hero is coming down the hallway in the hotel, 1911 at his side, you hear the slide being released... er,what?
I suspect that someone told the Foley crew to punch up the scene.
They're all fantasy and for us the story is what's important. We have laughed such things as Glocks that go click several times when empty.
If we want absolute truth and realism, we watch a documentary or some reality TV show. We all know the documentaries and reality shows are real world stuff.
If we want absolute truth and realism, we watch a documentary or some reality TV show. We all know the documentaries and reality shows are real world stuff.
Well that's just the thing.....when it comes to movies, the facts are always second to the story.....
Gun clicks and clack add suspense and drama to a scene....so regardless of whether or not the gun cam actually click or clack like that on real life, they don't care....because it's not their focus...
All that combines with the fact that 99% of the people watching are not gun owners and are not going to notice the difference anyways....
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I've always thought it was funny to see the slide rack back on a pistol after each shot fired in TV shows.
I tend to notice the car errors more than gun ones. Like when they add squealing tire noises when the car is on dirt or a car revs up and shifts gears about 20 times.
Gun errors have to be pretty bad for me to notice. Things like adding pump action noises before shooting a double barrel shotgun in "Fear the Walking Dead"
Gun errors have to be pretty bad for me to notice. Things like adding pump action noises before shooting a double barrel shotgun in "Fear the Walking Dead"
I don't mind it unless it impacts the story. ie if a cowboy is using a 1892 and its 1873 not a big deal, on the other hand if the cowboy is a gunfighter and uses an Uzi to mow down ppl that bothers me.
I watched one episode of longmire the very first episode they figure it out bc one guy has a 45-70 or something and that was the caliber used ergo he did it bc 45-70 is rare that's BS
I watched one episode of longmire the very first episode they figure it out bc one guy has a 45-70 or something and that was the caliber used ergo he did it bc 45-70 is rare that's BS
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If you listen close, most of the cocking noises used for other guns are really a Single Action Army.
I cringe at some goofs, but if the story is engaging you can ignore the minor ones.
You can't lease everyone, and getting Hollywood to drop standard tropes is an uphill struggle.
Some directors (Michael Mann comes to mind) make sure his actors get serious training, others just don't. There's not always a budget for that.
You can't lease everyone, and getting Hollywood to drop standard tropes is an uphill struggle.
Some directors (Michael Mann comes to mind) make sure his actors get serious training, others just don't. There's not always a budget for that.
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I watched "Unbroken" (again) over the weekend and it seemed that Jolie did try to be "authentic." I did see the "Bird" use a Nambu and that in itself was impressive. Not sure about the Arisakas. I'm sure there are folks who can spot the minutiae, I ain't one. Joe
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One sniper scene in Saving Private Ryan, the US sniper closes his eye, just before pulling the trigger. Please, that should have been reshot! (Pun intended!)
No. I find it funny how no one ever carries a firearm with a round chambered, and the ability to pull the trigger on a Glock 7 or 8 times (which in itself defies science) before realizing that the gun is not loaded.
Sometimes I think how funny it would be if other basic concepts were so poorly understood.
With all that said, most action movies today really suck... Comparing most action films to The Raid or The Raid 2 really puts it in perspective how low the bar has sank.
Sometimes I think how funny it would be if other basic concepts were so poorly understood.
With all that said, most action movies today really suck... Comparing most action films to The Raid or The Raid 2 really puts it in perspective how low the bar has sank.
Several years ago I watched Platoon, about soldiers in Vietnam. A friend of mine, also a hunter and gun collector who had served with the 25th Infantry there (wounded once), said the weapons were very authentic and used the way he and his fellow soldiers used them.
As for the movies, very few writers, directors, and actors know anything about firearms and don't care if the guns are not "correct" nor used correctly. That's the way it is in Hollywood.
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As for the movies, very few writers, directors, and actors know anything about firearms and don't care if the guns are not "correct" nor used correctly. That's the way it is in Hollywood.
L.W.
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Usually I give them a pass for naïveté. However in some cases a vital plot point is based on a firearm fallacy. U.S. Marshals. Hero examines bad guy traitor's Glock and surreptitiously switches magazines (empty for full) and hands bad guy back his Glock. Later bad guy pulls his piece and tries to shoot hero but gun goes click. P****** ME OFF.
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Funny to find this topic today. Other than the laughable unlimited magazines and magic 12-shooter revolvers I don't care either. However, last night I watched Death Wish on Netflix and there's this scene where Bronson is shooting an old revolver at a gun club. Anyway, he uses this ridiculous hold on the thing where he's got the pistol in his right hand and he is grabbing his right wrist with his left hand. Was this some kind of shooting stance common in the early 70s? I can't for the life of me understand how it would do anything. I kind of expect Bronson, being something of the real deal in terms of classic tough, to know his way around.
Also, even though it's one of my favorites, in Justified, Raylan has a ridiculously high body count as he shoots somebody about every episode. Oh well, consider my disbelief suspended.
Also, even though it's one of my favorites, in Justified, Raylan has a ridiculously high body count as he shoots somebody about every episode. Oh well, consider my disbelief suspended.
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